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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
Rafalski retired, he didn't want to play any more. Vinny still wants to play.


- jmatchett383



It's still walking away from millions. Whether he retires or mutually terminates, I don't care. Result is the same for the Flyers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
Norris trophy candidate. lets see where he is 3/4 years from now. looks good so far, offensively on the pp and overtime. lets see him go around the league 1 time.

let me guess you have always thought he would be a stud player right? didn't pull anything from my ass, gave my opinion chico. your a chump.

- rinaldo


Who called him a Norris Trophy candidate? All he did was prove that, yes, you did call him a bust. Anyone saying he's a Norris candidate right now is delusional.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
Norris trophy candidate. lets see where he is 3/4 years from now. looks good so far, offensively on the pp and overtime. lets see him go around the league 1 time.

let me guess you have always thought he would be a stud player right? didn't pull anything from my ass, gave my opinion chico. your a chump.

- rinaldo

Dude.. we have all been wrong before.

Except for Crimson Inja
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
Who called him a Norris Trophy candidate? All he did was prove that, yes, you did call him a bust. Anyone saying he's a Norris candidate right now is delusional.
- jmatchett383

Calder Candidate is a different story.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
Come on, man -- that is not what I am saying. He's talking crazy that he wants to go to a contender! Like who?! Even if he could still play, which he can't, what contender is absorbing that cap hit?

The Flyers aren't eating another crap deal coming back, and it sure as hell doesn't look like they're wanting to eat any salary to send him packing, so what the hell is he even talking about?

If he wants to sit and collect, great. But if you really want to play, don't peddle that delusion like there's nothing you can do except wait for the fates to align.

If you believe you still have it, then terminate. Or sit in the Shelley Suite and collect.

Every single thing else is delusional -- hell, I want a unicorn every Christmas, but that doesn't mean I am going to get one!

- AllInForFlyers



Whoever did the interview would have been smart to sneak this in after he said he wants another chance...

"Vinny, have you thought about going to the Flyers to see if a mutual termination would be amendable since you feel you can still play? That way you can go on the open market to find a chance?"

Or in some way like that. a good follow up question
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
Norris trophy candidate. lets see where he is 3/4 years from now. looks good so far, offensively on the pp and overtime. lets see him go around the league 1 time.

let me guess you have always thought he would be a stud player right? didn't pull anything from my ass, gave my opinion chico. your a chump.

- rinaldo

just admit it. youare(were)wrong
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
Calder Candidate is a different story.
- jak521


If he keeps up his production to date, he'll make a case.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
More so, in a cap world actual payed salary and cap hit are completely separate numbers.

He could have a 4.5 mil cap hit, but only have a salary payment of 1 mill. He might feel that he could take a little less (or around the same amount) else where and actually play. Do well and make more actual money the next contrac.t

- jak521



Sometimes its not the same for sure. He says it's not about money. He's not going to play with the Flyers. Staying with the Flyers ensures he is not going to play. He can hope the Flyers buy him out, which I wouldn't if I was the Flyers, or he can agree to mutually terminate. Either way, I don't see him becoming a regular player. I don't believe he can be traded.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
Who called him a Norris Trophy candidate? All he did was prove that, yes, you did call him a bust. Anyone saying he's a Norris candidate right now is delusional.
- jmatchett383

did I say anyone called him a Norris candidate.

indeed I did say he will be the one who will be the bust.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 6 @ 12:55 PM ET
did I say anyone called him a Norris candidate.

indeed I did say he will be the one who will be the bust.

- rinaldo


Red herring redirect then, I guess?

Either way, we've all been wrong.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 6 @ 12:56 PM ET
just admit it. youare(were)wrong
- aightwebang17

yes I am wrong based on 22 nhl games.

still has a ways to go 5 on 5.

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:56 PM ET
Where is Vej to wish "Eddie" a Happy 83rd birthday?
- PLindbergh31

all the best Eddie and keep on living in 1974
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:56 PM ET
Norris trophy candidate. lets see where he is 3/4 years from now. looks good so far, offensively on the pp and overtime. lets see him go around the league 1 time.

let me guess you have always thought he would be a stud player right? didn't pull anything from my ass, gave my opinion chico. your a chump.

- rinaldo



rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 6 @ 12:57 PM ET
Red herring redirect then, I guess?

Either way, we've all been wrong.

- jmatchett383

hope I am wrong, as I also said. way to early to say either way.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:57 PM ET
Sometimes its not the same for sure. He says it's not about money. He's not going to play with the Flyers. Staying with the Flyers ensures he is not going to play. He can hope the Flyers buy him out, which I wouldn't if I was the Flyers, or he can agree to mutually terminate. Either way, I don't see him becoming a regular player. I don't believe he can be traded.
- MJL

If I were Hextall ( and I would assume talks like these have already taken place) I would let him know that we have no intentions of buying him out, and that he will never be an every day player for them again. They have a different direction they are looking to go and want to get the younger guys more experience.

Pretty much let him know, if you have any desire to play at all again, you better think about terminating
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 6 @ 12:57 PM ET

- KINGKENZO

your a chump
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 6 @ 12:58 PM ET
hope I am wrong, as I also said. way to early to say either way.
- rinaldo


No, you are wrong. You said he was a bust, then said you never said he was a bust.

Again, we've all been wrong on here, except for MJL, we all just don't get it. It happens.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
The King broke the page.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
The King broke the page.
- MBFlyerfan


That's why he's the king. He can do as he pleases.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
The King broke the page.
- MBFlyerfan

It makes the whole exchange even better
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
Yes. And the Canadiens goalie last night has played more NHL games than AHL games, which (to me) means that he's an NHL-caliber goalie.
- jmatchett383

Scrivens 202 games in the minors including college 129 games in the NHL and just traded for a drug addict. Yea... nhl caliber there
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
The King broke the page.
- MBFlyerfan

SORRY....dont know how to resize......but it was worth it
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
No, you are wrong. You said he was a bust, then said you never said he was a bust.
- jmatchett383

semantics. didn't say it at all. I typed it, so technically I am not I wrong.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
i wonder when, exactly, the internet became about winning
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
hope I am wrong, as I also said. way to early to say either way.
- rinaldo

female dog be backtracking
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