dis is a gud pozt
- BonerStabone

Benaty>Rhinehardt

It's a drive-by.


- Der Kaiser

Yup, let's evaluate the guy just as soon as when he plays his first game in 13 months.
I give him a free ride the balance of this year to get back into the swing of it...if he plays well towards the end of the season great, if not, I chalk it up to what it is, 13 months off. If he suck, he sucks. oh well, wouldn't be the first time a 24 year old goalie poop the bed.
- IonSabres

For a 1st round pick, it's not oh well.
Colin White (the pick the Senators made with pick 21 for Lehner) seems to be a point per game or better player his entire youth career thus far.
This year at Boston College :
16 games
8 goals
15 assisits
23 points.

USA U20
7 games
3 goals
4 assists
7 points


A prolific scoring threat, Colin White is a strong 3-zone player with an eye for scoring chances. Thinks the game at a high level and always seeks to make an impact on the ice, with or without the puck. Never seems to be outbodied and is an exceptional skater. Puck-possession is definitely a strength. All-in-all, a skilled, 200-foot player that does all of the little things right and is able to make a large impact on the game and its outcome.


Now lets see how Lehner does

For a 1st round pick, it's not oh well.
Colin White (the pick the Senators made with pick 21 for Lehner) seems to be a point per game or better player his entire youth career thus far.
This year at Boston College :
16 games
8 goals
15 assisits
23 points.

USA U20
7 games
3 goals
4 assists
7 points


A prolific scoring threat, Colin White is a strong 3-zone player with an eye for scoring chances. Thinks the game at a high level and always seeks to make an impact on the ice, with or without the puck. Never seems to be outbodied and is an exceptional skater. Puck-possession is definitely a strength. All-in-all, a skilled, 200-foot player that does all of the little things right and is able to make a large impact on the game and its outcome.
- Pluviophile

How about we try not to figure out of the cost was worth it since it'll be a good 3-4 years before we know if White will be any type of impact player in the NHL and since Lehner has a whopping 28 total minutes of TOI in a meaningful NHL game in a Sabres uniform.

Not to mention, we have no idea if we had kept the pick, that White would have been the guy Murray selected. That's an awful big assumption.

How about we try not to figure out of the cost was worth it since it'll be a good 3-4 years before we know if White will be any type of impact player in the NHL and since Lehner has a whopping 28 total minutes of TOI in a meaningful NHL game in a Sabres uniform.

Not to mention, we have no idea if we had kept the pick, that White would have been the guy Murray selected. That's an awful big assumption.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yes

Fixed.

Lehner didn't even make it through 2 full periods before he got hurt. Him and Pysyk were supposedly sent to Rochester on a conditioning stint. I'm looking forward to getting both of them back soon.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'm thinking of going to that game on Friday. Was hoping he'd play against the Senators on Saturday but from what I hear he would get that game off and won't likely make the trip.

For a 1st round pick, it's not oh well.
Colin White (the pick the Senators made with pick 21 for Lehner) seems to be a point per game or better player his entire youth career thus far.
This year at Boston College :
16 games
8 goals
15 assisits
23 points.

USA U20
7 games
3 goals
4 assists
7 points


A prolific scoring threat, Colin White is a strong 3-zone player with an eye for scoring chances. Thinks the game at a high level and always seeks to make an impact on the ice, with or without the puck. Never seems to be outbodied and is an exceptional skater. Puck-possession is definitely a strength. All-in-all, a skilled, 200-foot player that does all of the little things right and is able to make a large impact on the game and its outcome.


Now lets see how Lehner does
- Pluviophile

No argument on Colin White, I loved his game as well.
that said, go back and read Lehner's prospect report after he won the Calder Cup in Binghamton.

C'mon. I'd love to see Colin do well...but, the same gaudie statements where said as well about other who failed miserably (cough Grigorenko)...who by the way was drafted by your boyahead of Girgensons

How about we try not to figure out of the cost was worth it since it'll be a good 3-4 years before we know if White will be any type of impact player in the NHL and since Lehner has a whopping 28 total minutes of TOI in a meaningful NHL game in a Sabres uniform.

Not to mention, we have no idea if we had kept the pick, that White would have been the guy Murray selected. That's an awful big assumption.
- HonkFortheGoose

he's just trolling, im almost positive its a backup account. Lehner could pitch a shut out and he'd find something else female dog about. Hopefully gets banned before we have to deal with that poop too.

Lehner can become a #1 goalie and succeed. There is still a chance that happens.

Trading a 1st for a goalie that you don't already know is a #1 is the problem.

he's just trolling, im almost positive its a backup account. Lehner could pitch a shut out and he'd find something else female dog about. Hopefully gets banned before we have to deal with that poop too.
- Sabresfan-365

tin man pretty much confirmed this

tin man pretty much confirmed this
- Herzeleid

Oh... l8

Im normally against most waiver claims but I can't think of a good reason as to why gormley shouldn't be a sabre tomorrow except of course if the jackets claimed him.

Lehner can become a #1 goalie and succeed. There is still a chance that happens.

Trading a 1st for a goalie that you don't already know is a #1 is the problem.
- sbroads24

Serious question. Which is worse, sabres moving a 1st rounder for lehner or the sabres keeping that 1st rounder and taking a goalie? I ask because IIRC Murray was knee deep in the Samsonov hype.

Hatty

Lehner can become a #1 goalie and succeed. There is still a chance that happens.

Trading a 1st for a goalie that you don't already know is a #1 is the problem.
- sbroads24

Fine then add to that late first you IDIOT.

Lehner can become a #1 goalie and succeed. There is still a chance that happens.

Trading a 1st for a goalie that you don't already know is a #1 is the problem.
- sbroads24

I won't say it's a great trade. I won't say it's a good trade. It might even be a bad trade. We'll see. At the time I hated the trade. Didn't want Lehner, didn't want to lose that first, didn't like any of it. Now, there's nothing I can do to change it so I just have to hope for the best and hope Lehner proves he was worth it.

Either way, I don't think 1 trade should make or break Murray's or anyone's career. Colin White turns out to be the next coming of Gretzky, fine. Other than that, let's just let them play.

How about we try not to figure out of the cost was worth it since it'll be a good 3-4 years before we know if White will be any type of impact player in the NHL and since Lehner has a whopping 28 total minutes of TOI in a meaningful NHL game in a Sabres uniform.

Not to mention, we have no idea if we had kept the pick, that White would have been the guy Murray selected. That's an awful big assumption.
- HonkFortheGoose

It simply speaks to the talent level that still was available at pick # 21 and not that White would have been Murray's pick.

As far as Lehner goes he has been fading since the 2013/14 season.(not that he was ever that great)
There is a reason why Anderson and the Hamburgler took playing time away from Lehner, they were better!
Not to mention Lehner has only played over 40 games twice in his playing career.
2009-10 Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds - only 47 games 27 - 13 - 3 (2.80 gaa)- .918 sv%
2011-12 Binghamton Senators - only 40 games 13 - 22 - 1 (3.26 gaa)- .907 sv%
So his best playing days were all the back in 2009/10 with an OHL team.



But this is Murray's #1 goaltender and from what the numbers dictate has never been a #1.
The numbers in totality tell a pretty good story of what I can expect from Mr Lehner.

Serious question. Which is worse, sabres moving a 1st rounder for lehner or the sabres keeping that 1st rounder and taking a goalie? I ask because IIRC Murray was knee deep in the Samsonov hype.

Hatty
- Sabresfan-365

Samsonov was the one who just pooped on the Americans in the Semis, correct? I would have been cool with getting a prospect, that just would have made it so we had to wait longer.

Had Murray gotten Samsonov there I guarantee people would be mad that he didn't get an NHL ready goalie.

It simply speaks to the talent level that still was available at pick # 21 and not that White would have been Murray's pick.

As far as Lehner goes he has been fading since the 2013/14 season.(not that he was ever that great)
There is a reason why Anderson and the Hamburgler took playing time away from Lehner, they were better!
Not to mention Lehner has only played over 40 games twice in his playing career.
2009-10 Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds - only 47 games 27 - 13 - 3 (2.80 gaa)- .918 sv%
2011-12 Binghamton Senators - only 40 games 13 - 22 - 1 (3.26 gaa)- .907 sv%
So his best playing days were all the back in 2009/10 with an OHL team.

But this is Murray's #1 goaltender and from what the numbers dictate has never been a #1.
The numbers in totality tell a pretty good story of what I can expect from Mr Lehner.

- Pluviophile

Didn't they say the same about Price?

From the AHL Website:
"Once he was inserted in the crease, Lehner rattled off a 14-4 record with a 2.10 goals-against average, a .939 save percentage, and a league-leading three shutouts in 19 appearances. Binghamton put together a pair of five-game winning streaks with Lehner tending goal and never dropped back-to-back contests.

The native of Gothenburg, Sweden, was rewarded with the Jack A. Butterfield Trophy as Most Valuable Player of the Calder Cup Playoffs following Binghamton’s championship-clinching 3-2 win at Houston on Tuesday."

Samsonov was the one who just pooped on the Americans in the Semis, correct? I would have been cool with getting a prospect, that just would have made it so we had to wait longer.

Had Murray gotten Samsonov there I guarantee people would be mad that he didn't get an NHL ready goalie.
- Zschalberg

This was my thought post trade as well. it's easy to say we missed out on white, konecny but i think the reality is there was a virtually zero percent chance of us getting one of them.

he's just trolling, im almost positive its a backup account. Lehner could pitch a shut out and he'd find something else female dog about. Hopefully gets banned before we have to deal with that poop too.
- Sabresfan-365

I stick to hockey talk and not personal attacks.
Some of you will get banned far far before me.

Lehner can become a #1 goalie and succeed. There is still a chance that happens.

Trading a 1st for a goalie that you don't already know is a #1 is the problem.
- sbroads24

Like Corey Schieder

Serious question. Which is worse, sabres moving a 1st rounder for lehner or the sabres keeping that 1st rounder and taking a goalie? I ask because IIRC Murray was knee deep in the Samsonov hype.

Hatty
- Sabresfan-365

Both would have been bad options IMO.

After the trades he made, we needed some scoring depth in our system.

If you remember, I was all in on Konecny and White.

Anything else probably would have had me disappointed

Tit for tat.
Point is, let's wait until both actually play awhile in the NHL rather than
my father can beat-up your father.

Either way, I don't think 1 trade should make or break Murray's or anyone's career. .
- Zschalberg

But see, that's where the problem lies.
It's not just one trade.