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Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 8 @ 6:36 PM ET
I don't understand this trade...two players of equal value and Benning, yet again, throwing away picks in a trade. The guys a (frank)in moron!
- LeftCoaster


Etem - marginal NHLer who could become a 3rd liner

Jensen - a guy who is barely cutting it on the AHL team
6th rounder - gives them a chance to have something

I don't like Benning either, but this is the kind buy low trading he should be doing.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 6:36 PM ET
Etem has some really good wheels. Remember when Kes got traded he was on everyone's wish list. Well we got him. So far JB has been doing ok with his trades. Sven is turning out nice. I see Vey creating a good many chances .

We need to be patient with these young guys. Look at Hutton , he makes mistakes but so far has been a good learning year. Markstrom finding his stride. You wanted the smaller skilled forwards and JB is finding a way to bring them in.

- VANTEL


Agreed. I like this move. Bring in a guy Willie knows and can speak to, trade out a bit of a busted first rounder and a 6th.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 6:36 PM ET
I don't see that being an Etem problem. I see that as Prust-Higgins problem.

Getting anything resembling an everyday NHLer out of Etem is a win. If he can turn into Jannik Hansen (useful top9 player) then its great.

- Lindenis#1


That is the ceiling for him in my opinion. A useful utility player, high 40 point scorer, delivers some speed and energy, solid but not a difference maker.

If he can deliver that this will have been a good trade. From what I've seen he has (or had maybe) it in him but he lacked the consistency to do it night in night out.

This is a low risk punt by Benning.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 6:36 PM ET
Need a snickers
- VANTEL

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:37 PM ET
I don't understand this trade...two players of equal value and Benning, yet again, throwing away picks in a trade. The guys a (frank)in moron!
- LeftCoaster

Etem would have slightly more value than Jensen as he has done something in the NHL. Not his fault this year AV used him as a whipping boy from what i hear their fans say.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 6:37 PM ET
[quote=CamoToe]

They are going to have a top 10 pick, no way the ytrade their first rounder
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 6:38 PM ET
Need a snickers
- VANTEL

I think a pint would be preferable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 8 @ 6:39 PM ET
I think a pint would be preferable.
- LeftCoaster

Definitely. I will be joining you in an hour. Need to pick up the wife first.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 8 @ 6:40 PM ET
Etem would have slightly more value than Jensen as he has done something in the NHL. Not his fault this year AV used him as a whipping boy from what i hear their fans say.
- Retinalz

Jensen had no chance of making this team
CamoToe
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.08.2016

Jan 8 @ 6:40 PM ET
Ray Ferraro said he sees Virtanen as a Hansen. Just more physical but doesn't score as much as him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 8 @ 6:42 PM ET
Ray Ferraro said he sees Virtanen as a Hansen. Just more physical but doesn't score as much as him.
- CamoToe

One bust at a time please . Let's stick to the program.




Joking . I like JV
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 6:42 PM ET
Etem would have slightly more value than Jensen as he has done something in the NHL. Not his fault this year AV used him as a whipping boy from what i hear their fans say.
- Retinalz

I like Jensen, I don't think their numbers are too far off each other. i don't know, I think this is a low risk but low reward type deal and he's giving away picks again, not crazy about it...sorry.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
Ray Ferraro said he sees Virtanen as a Hansen. Just more physical but doesn't score as much as him.
- CamoToe


If that's true, what a great use of a 6th overall pick.
CamoToe
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.08.2016

Jan 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
One bust at a time please . Let's stick to the program.




Joking . I like JV

- VANTEL


Haha I like Virtanen too. I think he has lots of potential.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jan 8 @ 6:44 PM ET
Ray Ferraro said he sees Virtanen as a Hansen. Just more physical but doesn't score as much as him.
- CamoToe



I lost respect for Ferraro.

Virtanen will never be a top scorer... but I see him closer to a Kreider or Saad type. Kid is already holding his own physically.... will only get stonger and faster for the next couple of years.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jan 8 @ 6:44 PM ET
I always found Etem a nuisance to play against when he was with the Ducks. Hopefully he can do that again in a Canucks jersey.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 8 @ 6:47 PM ET
I like Jensen, I don't think their numbers are too far off each other. i don't know, I think this is a low risk but low reward type deal and he's giving away picks again, not crazy about it...sorry.
- LeftCoaster


Usually I would get on board and I also have been a fan of Jensen but their numbers are pretty far off in the AHL.

Jensen 57 pts in 137 games
Etem 92 in 119

I don't know if Etem is as well rounded but I think that potential is worth a 6th.
CamoToe
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.08.2016

Jan 8 @ 6:47 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/v...is-jannik-hansen-1.419742
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 6:48 PM ET
I like Jensen, I don't think their numbers are too far off each other. i don't know, I think this is a low risk but low reward type deal and he's giving away picks again, not crazy about it...sorry.
- LeftCoaster



I agree i like Jensen too, but it appeared managment gave up on him, so id rather have a guy who they will actually play. Wait and see kinda thing
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 6:48 PM ET
We miss Booner. I sure hope he is doing good
- VANTEL

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:48 PM ET
I always found Etem a nuisance to play against when he was with the Ducks. Hopefully he can do that again in a Canucks jersey.
- micah555

His game could be better suited to the West.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jan 8 @ 6:50 PM ET
His game could be better suited to the West.
- Retinalz



One big hit on Kesler and ill like the trade
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 6:51 PM ET
Usually I would get on board and I also have been a fan of Jensen but their numbers are pretty far off in the AHL.

Jensen 57 pts in 137 games
Etem 92 in 119

I don't know if Etem is as well rounded but I think that potential is worth a 6th.

- belcherbd

Jensens always been cast in a bottom six role in the AHL, Etem hasn't, it's more than just numbers for me though. Size, speed, learning to fit that into an NHL role, I just don't see a huge upgrade and I'm mad about the pick
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 8 @ 6:51 PM ET
I lost respect for Ferraro.

Virtanen will never be a top scorer... but I see him closer to a Kreider or Saad type. Kid is already holding his own physically.... will only get stonger and faster for the next couple of years.

- Mungo


I think Ferraro was bang on and he wasn't criticizing Virtanen but pointing out that people's expectations are likely too high if they are expecting a consistent top 6 scorer. He said he didn't think he had the hockey IQ to do that but expected him to be a very good bottom 6 guy who can chip in , in a variety of ways.

Brouwer, Ward, Hansen, Clowe, etc are all more realistic expectations than Perry, Bertuzzi that people throw around.

SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:52 PM ET
Definitely. I will be joining you in an hour. Need to pick up the wife first.
- VANTEL

by wife you mean box of wine dont you
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