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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:54 PM ET
Jensens always been cast in a bottom six role in the AHL, Etem hasn't, it's more than just numbers for me though. Size, speed, learning to fit that into an NHL role, I just don't see a huge upgrade and I'm mad about the pick
- LeftCoaster

We were going to let Jensen walk to Europe soon, so basically a 6th for a possible 4th/3rd liner...good deal to me.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 6:55 PM ET
I don't understand this trade...two players of equal value and Benning, yet again, throwing away picks in a trade. The guys a (frank)in moron!
- LeftCoaster

Hot flashes?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:55 PM ET
I think Ferraro was bang on and he wasn't criticizing Virtanen but pointing out that people's expectations are likely too high if they are expecting a consistent top 6 scorer. He said he didn't think he had the hockey IQ to do that but expected him to be a very good bottom 6 guy who can chip in , in a variety of ways.

Brouwer, Ward, Hansen, Clowe, etc are all more realistic expectations than Perry, Bertuzzi that people throw around.

- belcherbd

Time will tell. I see more Lucic than anything, If he can figure it out.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
Hot flashes?
- Marwood

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
Ray Ferraro said he sees Virtanen as a Hansen. Just more physical but doesn't score as much as him.
- CamoToe

So not like Hansen then.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
Jensens always been cast in a bottom six role in the AHL, Etem hasn't, it's more than just numbers for me though. Size, speed, learning to fit that into an NHL role, I just don't see a huge upgrade and I'm mad about the pick
- LeftCoaster


I don't see a huge upgrade either, but a late round pick upgrade.
CamoToe
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.08.2016

Jan 8 @ 6:57 PM ET
You think WD gives Baer Bo Etem a look? If Hansen is out for a longer period of time,
Sedins, Vrbata
Baer Bo Etem
Burrows Mccann/Vey Virtanen
Prust Cracknell/Vey Dorsett

Higgins
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 6:57 PM ET
Ray Ferraro said he sees Virtanen as a Hansen. Just more physical but doesn't score as much as him.
- CamoToe

Thanks Phucker. Looking forward to seeing what avatar you chose for your new alt account.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 6:58 PM ET
Thanks Phucker. Looking forward to seeing what avatar you chose for your new alt account.
- Marwood

CamoToe
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.08.2016

Jan 8 @ 7:00 PM ET
Thanks Phucker. Looking forward to seeing what avatar you chose for your new alt account.
- Marwood


Not bashing JV, I like him. Just throwing that out there for discussion.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 7:00 PM ET
I like Jensen, I don't think their numbers are too far off each other. i don't know, I think this is a low risk but low reward type deal and he's giving away picks again, not crazy about it...sorry.
- LeftCoaster

Can you show us that chart again that shows the % of players who play more than 100 NHL games per round. I can't remember if the 6th round is 2 or 3%?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
Hot flashes?
- Marwood

Trying to cool off with a 🍺
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
Can you show us that chart again that shows the % of players who play more than 100 NHL games per round. I can't remember if the 6th round is 2 or 3%?
- Marwood

14%
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:03 PM ET
Time will tell. I see more Lucic than anything, If he can figure it out.
- Retinalz

Jake can't fight, therein lies the big difference, Lucic gets a lot of room because of it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 7:03 PM ET
Trying to cool off with a 🍺
- LeftCoaster

Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
14%
- LeftCoaster


Its closer to 9-11%
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
14%
- LeftCoaster

Thanks.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jan 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
We miss Booner. I sure hope he is doing good
- VANTEL

Is Booner ill?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:05 PM ET
We were going to let Jensen walk to Europe soon, so basically a 6th for a possible 4th/3rd liner...good deal to me.
- Retinalz

Jensen's an RFA at year end so I'm assuming Benning had no intentions of re-signing him...I feel better now, only a little though
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
Thanks.
- Marwood

14% gives you a better chance than 0%
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 8 @ 7:07 PM ET
I like Jensen, I don't think their numbers are too far off each other. i don't know, I think this is a low risk but low reward type deal and he's giving away picks again, not crazy about it...sorry.
- LeftCoaster


You are hilarious. Jensen had next to no value and wouldn't secure Etem. He isn't "throwing" away pics for (frank)sakes. Look at it another way, 2 6th round pics for a guy playing in the NHL now with more upside. Jensens time with the Canucks was finished. Etem would be easily the best player on the Comets if was playing down there and Jensen can barely produce.
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jan 8 @ 7:08 PM ET
Etem - marginal NHLer who could become a 3rd liner

Jensen - a guy who is barely cutting it on the AHL team
6th rounder - gives them a chance to have something

I don't like Benning either, but this is the kind buy low trading he should be doing.

- Lindenis#1



I think it's fair to say that Jensen will never turn into the top 6 player the canucks hoped he would be when they drafted him and the current regime doesn't have a roster spot for him. No real loss there. The fact that the return was Etem instead of a draft pick means this season becomes a trial to see if he fits the plan long term (ala Baertschi last sesaon).

Even if he doesn't work out, they can qualify Etem as RFA and give him Jensen's roster spot in Utica, or trade him for a pick, because I figured that's all Jensen would be worth anyways.

So it's a no-lose trade, really. Odds are incredibly unlikely Jensen turns into Patrick Sharp (see Philadelphia 2005), but Jensen would never get the chance to become that guy in this organization.

Good luck Nick, may NY be better for you than you were to Vancouver.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 8 @ 7:12 PM ET
The Canucks should trade it back to Jackets with like Kenins or Weber for Rychel or some other asset the Jackets feel like selling low on
- Lindenis#1

Not a horrible idea. But even if they don't give us this years pick it will still be real close to a first next year.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 7:13 PM ET
You are hilarious. Jensen had next to no value and wouldn't secure Etem. He isn't "throwing" away pics for (frank)sakes. Look at it another way, 2 6th round pics for a guy playing in the NHL now with more upside. Jensens time with the Canucks was finished. Etem would be easily the best player on the Comets if was playing down there and Jensen can barely produce.
- CanuckDon

I think if either makes it, if ever, they'd both be bottom six players, if Etem has upside it's marginal.

The fact he's in the NHL is meaningless, situational, Jensen had an extended look at one point too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 8 @ 7:13 PM ET
by wife you mean box of wine dont you
- SRam19

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