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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
That too



I drank about 4 double scotches during that 4th quarter

- 3flyerkids

I usually just call that Tuesday
3flyerkids
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 10 @ 11:23 AM ET
I usually just call that Tuesday
- BiggE



God bless you!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 11:29 AM ET
There are just some blockbuster deals that can really throw off track the direction of a team. Trading for Dustin Byfuglien and possibly parting with one of our prized prospects is one. If give up Morin, you lose that possible steady ankor in size. If you move one of Provorov or Sanheim, you possibly lose a future noris nominee/winner. Travis Konecny is easily our best forward prospect, so there is no moving him.

I think we could use Big Buff but I don't think he's someone you sacrifice everything you've built to get.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
There are just some blockbuster deals that can really throw off track the direction of a team. Trading for Dustin Byfuglien and possibly parting with one of our prized prospects is one. If give up Morin, you lose that possible steady ankor in size. If you move one of Provorov or Sanheim, you possibly lose a future noris nominee/winner. Travis Konecny is easily our best forward prospect, so there is no moving him.

I think we could use Big Buff but I don't think he's someone you sacrifice everything you've built to get.

- SuperSchennBros


I think your right there at the end. Just can't give up the cap space for him
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
There are just some blockbuster deals that can really throw off track the direction of a team. Trading for Dustin Byfuglien and possibly parting with one of our prized prospects is one. If give up Morin, you lose that possible steady ankor in size. If you move one of Provorov or Sanheim, you possibly lose a future noris nominee/winner. Travis Konecny is easily our best forward prospect, so there is no moving him.

I think we could use Big Buff but I don't think he's someone you sacrifice everything you've built to get.

- SuperSchennBros


If it was 3 years down the line when all 5 prospects, possibly, are up with the Flyers and Buff was 31 then it would be a different story to me... Bring him in for leadership but that isnt the case and Im okay with riding out with what we have until then.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 10 @ 11:42 AM ET
There are just some blockbuster deals that can really throw off track the direction of a team. Trading for Dustin Byfuglien and possibly parting with one of our prized prospects is one. If give up Morin, you lose that possible steady ankor in size. If you move one of Provorov or Sanheim, you possibly lose a future noris nominee/winner. Travis Konecny is easily our best forward prospect, so there is no moving him.

I think we could use Big Buff but I don't think he's someone you sacrifice everything you've built to get.

- SuperSchennBros

Yeah makes zero sense. Flyers have some of the deepest and most talented D prospect pool in the league. Gost up has already proven that not only does he belong but he flat out has near all-star level offensive skills.
Provorov and possibly Morin could end up on the blueline next year alongside Gost with Gudas and MDZ and all of the sudden the Flyers backend looks really good.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
Hexy will not trade for Drouin or sign Buff
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
If it was 3 years down the line when all 5 prospects, possibly, are up with the Flyers and Buff was 31 then it would be a different story to me... Bring him in for leadership but that isnt the case and Im okay with riding out with what we have until then.
- opeth_pa

Homer would have traded for Buff
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
He doesn't play 30 minutes a game. I think his weight is cause for concern in the future.
- MJL

Maybe. Who knows? I don't like these mega $$$ long term contracts in general. That's what teams will be offering him, so I'd stay away from him for that reason. He'd sure be fun to have for a few years tho.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
Homer would have traded for Buff
- vejim


And given him a 7 year deal before season's end
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
And given him a 7 year deal before season's end
- Pelle31Forever

Scary if he gave Macdonald 6 years and 30 million....what's Buff 7 years for 56 million?
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
Thanks Bill. A solid win against the NYI, however the NYI didn't bring their "A" game. The next ten or so games will tell where the Flyers are at; we play Boston, Detroit, NYR, and Washington. Like the Flyers, the NYI are trying to find consistency, and the ability to earn a playoff spot. It will be interesting to see if the players that have found a new life (Raffl, Read, Coots, Schenn, etc..) can continue to build upon the better play that they have been providing the last couple of games.
This season, and parts of last season's stats have really dropped off for these guys, and I would start to question their ability to develop, and start scoring on a regular basis. One may argue in their defense that injuries, and different line-mates for these players may have contributed to their lower than expected level of play, but good players adapt to adversity. If these guys don't progress, why are we holding on to them? I want them to do well, but with the pay raises, extensions, etc... I would expect a little more production from them. And, would someone please change our second PP unit; they are painful to watch.
Good luck to the Flyers the next few games, and I hope that they come out on the other side, playing well, and winning games.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:30 PM ET

This season, and parts of last season's stats have really dropped off for these guys, and I would start to question their ability to develop, and start scoring on a regular basis.

- OrangeAndBlack1


Which players are you talking about ???
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jan 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
I recall him wanting 7 years/$50mm.

Given Byfuglien's size and propensity for showing up to camp in less than stellar shape, there's no way I give a guy his age a deal longer than 3-4 years and even that long bugs me.

- Jsaquella

I agree too many years. They just got out of a deadweight contract, why jump right into another one?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 10 @ 2:00 PM ET
I agree too many years. They just got out of a deadweight contract, why jump right into another one?
- Daceroni


I'm not afraid of longer term deals, just not for big buff
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
Thanks Bill. A solid win against the NYI, however the NYI didn't bring their "A" game. The next ten or so games will tell where the Flyers are at; we play Boston, Detroit, NYR, and Washington. Like the Flyers, the NYI are trying to find consistency, and the ability to earn a playoff spot. It will be interesting to see if the players that have found a new life (Raffl, Read, Coots, Schenn, etc..) can continue to build upon the better play that they have been providing the last couple of games.
This season, and parts of last season's stats have really dropped off for these guys, and I would start to question their ability to develop, and start scoring on a regular basis. One may argue in their defense that injuries, and different line-mates for these players may have contributed to their lower than expected level of play, but good players adapt to adversity. If these guys don't progress, why are we holding on to them? I want them to do well, but with the pay raises, extensions, etc... I would expect a little more production from them. And, would someone please change our second PP unit; they are painful to watch.
Good luck to the Flyers the next few games, and I hope that they come out on the other side, playing well, and winning games.

- OrangeAndBlack1


The Isles were certainly missing a couple of key defenseman, but in my opinion, the Flyers took whatever game the isles had away from them.
Other than breaking up the top PP unit, and changing players, what other moves can they make with the current roster, to improve the 2nd PP unit? Honestly, it's really the first PP unit that should be more concerning.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
The Isles were certainly missing a couple of key defenseman, but in my opinion, the Flyers took whatever game the isles had away from them.
Other than breaking up the top PP unit, and changing players, what other moves can they make with the current roster, to improve the 2nd PP unit? Honestly, it's really the first PP unit that should be more concerning.

- MJL


I concur, my brother MJL.

Small quibble: wouldn't mind seeing Laughton on PP2 in Read's place. His speed and shot on his off side would help. Berube actually did use him there briefly.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 2:17 PM ET
I concur, my brother MJL.

Small quibble: wouldn't mind seeing Laughton on PP2 in Read's place. His speed and shot on his off side would help. Berube actually did use him there briefly.

- Mononoke


Absolutely. The Isles might not have played their best game, but the Flyers played really well, which really made the Isles poor play look even worse.

I'd like to see Laughton in a bigger role. I know he's been having some struggles, but I'd like to see him play more, give him more ability to play through a mistake and atone for it
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
Absolutely. The Isles might not have played their best game, but the Flyers played really well, which really made the Isles poor play look even worse.

I'd like to see Laughton in a bigger role. I know he's been having some struggles, but I'd like to see him play more, give him more ability to play through a mistake and atone for it

- Jsaquella


24-19-21. Or 24-21-19.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:23 PM ET
Absolutely. The Isles might not have played their best game, but the Flyers played really well, which really made the Isles poor play look even worse.

I'd like to see Laughton in a bigger role. I know he's been having some struggles, but I'd like to see him play more, give him more ability to play through a mistake and atone for it

- Jsaquella


Looks like Hak is getting him and read more minutes. They've been playing well and should get the minutes over bellys line right now
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 2:24 PM ET
Looks like Hak is getting him and read more minutes. They've been playing well and should get the minutes over bellys line right now
- Just5


They should. They have a lot of jump and even Umberger has played well with them, for the most part. Still want to see the FNG get some games here.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 2:25 PM ET
24-19-21. Or 24-21-19.
- Mononoke


Yeah, want to see the FNG work his way in, and even with Umberger's recent solid play, he's my odd man out for Weal
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:29 PM ET
Yeah, want to see the FNG work his way in, and even with Umberger's recent solid play, he's my odd man out for Weal
- Jsaquella

Scratching Umberger is always a good idea.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 2:36 PM ET
Scratching Umberger is always a good idea.
- BiggE


The Dean of the Vincent Lecavalier chair in the Gene Hart Pressbox
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
The Dean of the Vincent Lecavalier chair in the Gene Hart Pressbox
- Jsaquella

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