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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 10 @ 4:25 PM ET
Someone last week suggested Higgins, Vrbata and the Columbus 2nd to Columbus for their first. He may have been on to something.


Omg Vikings.

- Scooby_Doo


So mad, brutal kick. Gave me Scobee flashbacks
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 4:29 PM ET
As a Canadian citizen there is a process to get the tax payment back.
- fiveandagame

good luck.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:29 PM ET
Benning is much better right?
- VANTEL


2 different situations. Gillis inherited a very good roster and made some good moves to make the team a legitimate contender. Once they didn't win the cup It went off the rails fast.

Benning inherited a disaster and is trying to roll over a stale roster and rebuild.

It's still too early to make a determination on Benning.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:31 PM ET
good luck.
- LordHumungous



It would be a very good problem to have.
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jan 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
My guess is he ends up in the same discard pile as all our other castaways, Toronto or Florida. Maybe JB has embarrassing photos of Cam Neely or Peter chiarelli he can leverage...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
2 different situations. Gillis inherited a very good roster and made some good moves to make the team a legitimate contender. Once they didn't win the cup It went off the rails fast.

Benning inherited a disaster and is trying to roll over a stale roster and rebuild.

It's still too early to make a determination on Benning.

- fiveandagame

I like Benning
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
Higgens has a limited no trade ? No that's brutal management right there .
- Allforhim12


EDIT: Wrong info here when I mentioned it earlier. Higgins was extended by Mike Gillis a year before Gillis was fired.

Higgins signed his four-year extension in April of 2013.
AV was fired in June of 2013 - enter Torts.
Gillis was fired in August of 2014 - enter Trev, JB and Willie, who are now in their second season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:38 PM ET
I hadn't realized this. Higgins' current extension was finalized six days before Mike Gillis was fired in April of 2013.
- Carol Schram

Probably what got him fired
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
I like Benning
- VANTEL


So far I do too, but I think it's too early to determine if his plan will work. I like the direction so far.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
It would be a very good problem to have.
- fiveandagame

lol no doubt.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
Probably what got him fired
- VANTEL

It is way up there on his stupidest moves list !
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
Probably what got him fired
- VANTEL



Higgins was the final straw.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:45 PM ET
So far I do too, but I think it's too early to determine if his plan will work. I like the direction so far.
- fiveandagame

No sleep doctors, diet cooks, or spiritual healers, just head down hard work and draft and develop. Not much to dislike.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 10 @ 4:46 PM ET
Best part of the news coming out today.... " Higgins will be kept away from the team while we explore trade possibilities ". JB was true to his word , said he would see where we are at at the halfway mark and make some hard decisions. Lovin JB today
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
Best part of the news coming out today.... " Higgins will be kept away from the team while we explore trade possibilities ". JB was true to his word , said he would see where we are at at the halfway mark and make some hard decisions. Lovin JB today
- Bullfrog77

Younger bigger faster. We have got faster this year, but still lots of dead lumber that needs to be shipped
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
2 different situations. Gillis inherited a very good roster and made some good moves to make the team a legitimate contender. Once they didn't win the cup It went off the rails fast.

Benning inherited a disaster and is trying to roll over a stale roster and rebuild.

It's still too early to make a determination on Benning.

- fiveandagame

Fair points but I will give Gillis credit where it's due. It was more than a few moves that got that 2011 club to dominance and a shot at the final. Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Malholta, Samuelsson, Higgins and a few others were all Gillis. Without those moves we don't reach the finals so some real credit there. It was the 9-10 NTC's that followed and believing for almost three years after the same core could get us back there. All the while giving away picks for rentals. The Horvat trade/pick was Gillis so credit there. But the handling of the Lou situation was so poor after getting pounded by LA in 2012...it was almost like Gillis completely forgot how to do his job. And making Lou captain will go down as one of the stupidest moves in NHL history.

But with Benning we are starting to see the inner workings on how to do things properly. Infuse some youth while ridding the team of NTC's and scout/draft/develop. I like Benning so far and we have seen every indication that this club will be contending again in 3-5 years...maybe sooner.

fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
No sleep doctors, diet cooks, or spiritual healers, just head down hard work and draft and develop. Not much to dislike.
- VANTEL



I like the youth that has been injected into lineup and that there are guys like Shink, Gaunce, and Grenier banging on the door.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:53 PM ET
I like the youth that has been injected into lineup and that there are guys like Shink, Gaunce, and Grenier banging on the door.
- fiveandagame

Add Subban and Pedan to that list
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 10 @ 4:53 PM ET
Not all of it. You gotta pay a portion to cdn govt last i heard. Buddy won big in vegas years vack and thats what happened.
- Retinalz

Legal lotto winnings are not taxed in Canada. you win the 50 million on Friday its all yours same goes for powerball.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 10 @ 4:55 PM ET
No sleep doctors, diet cooks, or spiritual healers, just head down hard work and draft and develop. Not much to dislike.
- VANTEL

I don't know if I could go without alcohol.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
Legal lotto winnings are not taxed in Canada. you win the 50 million on Friday its all yours same goes for powerball.

- thundachunk

i meant winnings from us.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
Canucks have 7 RFAs that need new contracts next year. Biega and a few other UFA s also
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:58 PM ET
Younger bigger faster. We have got faster this year, but still lots of dead lumber that needs to be shipped
- VANTEL


The best part is, once that dead lumber is gone it looks like we might have guys in the system already to fill those roster spots.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:58 PM ET
Add Subban and Pedan to that list
- VANTEL



Potentially Tryamkin as well.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 5:00 PM ET
Canucks have 7 RFAs that need new contracts next year. Biega and a few other UFA s also
- VANTEL


They should have enough cap space to sign the RFAs they want and take a shot or two in the UFA market if they choose.
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