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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Hartnell for Wilson NOT happening. Drouin? Stamkos Deal? Podcast @1
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RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:31 PM ET
"Nah."

-Blues
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:35 PM ET
man that means stamkos is a leaf
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:36 PM ET
I dont disagree. But 1 just asked for a trade and the other can walk in 5 months.
- Gerk


You acknowledge that Stamkos will walk at the end of the season (likely to Toronto), and you're willing to give up Shattenkirk for that? No thanks. If the Blues are dealing Shattenkirk, he needs to go to a team that will sign him before the end of the year in exchange for a player that has/will get a similar contract.

I've said it time and time again, but I think the right dance partner for the Blues right now is Edmonton. Shattenkirk and a prospect (not named Fabbri) would likely draw Nuge and a pick; or a bigger trade, like Pietrangelo (who I don't necessarily want to trade) and a prospect, could possibly land Draisaitl and someone like Nurse.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Jan 11 @ 1:41 PM ET
Drouin to Mtl

for Beaulieu And Andrighetto
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:47 PM ET
I'd love for this stamkos saga to end one way or another
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 1:48 PM ET
You acknowledge that Stamkos will walk at the end of the season (likely to Toronto), and you're willing to give up Shattenkirk for that? No thanks. If the Blues are dealing Shattenkirk, he needs to go to a team that will sign him before the end of the year in exchange for a player that has/will get a similar contract.

I've said it time and time again, but I think the right dance partner for the Blues right now is Edmonton. Shattenkirk and a prospect (not named Fabbri) would likely draw Nuge and a pick; or a bigger trade, like Pietrangelo (who I don't necessarily want to trade) and a prospect, could possibly land Draisaitl and someone like Nurse.

- RobShouts


What are you talking about. I said he could walk or resign or do whatever he wants since FA. Backes is same position as Stamkos higher priced forward in contract year. Not same level but similar situation contract wise.
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:49 PM ET
You acknowledge that Stamkos will walk at the end of the season (likely to Toronto), and you're willing to give up Shattenkirk for that? No thanks. If the Blues are dealing Shattenkirk, he needs to go to a team that will sign him before the end of the year in exchange for a player that has/will get a similar contract.

I've said it time and time again, but I think the right dance partner for the Blues right now is Edmonton. Shattenkirk and a prospect (not named Fabbri) would likely draw Nuge and a pick; or a bigger trade, like Pietrangelo (who I don't necessarily want to trade) and a prospect, could possibly land Draisaitl and someone like Nurse.

- RobShouts


Edmonton has to try something
sitting on their hands every year hoarding picks just isn't going to work to get a balanced team
vertigo1061
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.20.2008

Jan 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
I don't think CBJ will be very interested in trading Hartnell within the division unless the return is really, really good.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 11 @ 2:02 PM ET
I don't think CBJ will be very interested in trading Hartnell within the division unless the return is really, really good.
- vertigo1061

I don't know that contract might bite us eventually , we should sell him while he's still relevant.
Zmloste
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jan 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
stamkos is signing then being traded. the good ole sign and trade
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
stamkos is signing then being traded. the good ole sign and trade
- Zmloste


doesn't happen and likely won't happen in the nhl.

there just isn't enough incentive for a player to take part in one.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
"Nah."

-Blues

- RobShouts


Yep, Drouin playing for Hitch.

orbit
Dallas Stars
Location: MI
Joined: 06.11.2009

Jan 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
What do you guys think of a Nichushkin for Drouin swap? Think it would fly? Dallas would most likely have to add a defenseman prospect + I'd imagine, but the Stars have that in Johns, Lindell, Honka, Nemeth, and Oleksiak. I love Val, he's actually my favorite player on the Stars, but Drouin is enticing as well. Nich has struggled this season, but I attribute that to missing almost all of last season, and not playing much with Benn and Seguin this year.

Jagr did say that he thinks Val could be one of the best in the league one day. He's a good judge of talent I'd say, lol.

While I doubt Dallas will get Drouin, as we don't really need another scoring forward, its still fun to speculate! I doubt theres a team that's not interested.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
What do you guys think of a Nichushkin for Drouin swap? Think it would fly? Dallas would most likely have to add a defenseman prospect + I'd imagine, but the Stars have that in Johns, Lindell, Honka, Nemeth, and Oleksiak. I love Val, he's actually my favorite player on the Stars, but Drouin is enticing as well. Nich has struggled this season, but I attribute that to missing almost all of last season, and not playing much with Benn and Seguin this year.

Jagr did say that he thinks Val could be one of the best in the league one day. He's a good judge of talent I'd say, lol.

While I doubt Dallas will get Drouin, as we don't really need another scoring forward, its still fun to speculate! I doubt theres a team that's not interested.

- orbit


I don't know why you would want to trade Nichushkin or consider it, he has looked good in the games I have seen him. He is more established as an NHLer than Drouin at this point too. A big winger that dmen have a hard time dealing with.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 11 @ 2:38 PM ET
Cant wait for Stamkos to re-sign and watch all the Leaf fans pout or change their tune
- Ross77



There are Leafs fans who think it's going to happen, but aren't exactly happy about it.

Signing someone to an 8 year 10+mil contract when you're trying to restart and build a young team to grow with isn't necessarily the best idea.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Jan 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Yep, Drouin playing for Hitch.


- tredbrta


Umm his name is no longer Hitch

It is Captain Kangaroo
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jan 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
doesn't happen and likely won't happen in the nhl.

there just isn't enough incentive for a player to take part in one.

- Tumbleweed


there is an incentive now. 1 extra contract year which should be around 10.5 million per year. If he's forced to sign a 7 year contract, chances are he couldn't sign a 10.5 million dollar contract in 7 year when he's into is decline.
orbit
Dallas Stars
Location: MI
Joined: 06.11.2009

Jan 11 @ 2:56 PM ET
I don't know why you would want to trade Nichushkin or consider it, he has looked good in the games I have seen him. He is more established as an NHLer than Drouin at this point too. A big winger that dmen have a hard time dealing with.
- hillbillydeluxe


Oh, I don't want to trade him! I was just throwing it out there because it doesn't seem like much of a stretch in terms of possibility. Dallas has had a nasty habit of trading my favorites over the years. He's kinda been in and out of Ruffs doghouse this season, so I worry about it somewhat, lol.

We need a top pairing d-man more than anything tho. If we were to trade him, it would be for that I'd think.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 11 @ 3:00 PM ET
Then the focus will just shift to Tavares.
- eichiefs9

We have enough uninterested players
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 11 @ 3:00 PM ET
there is an incentive now. 1 extra contract year which should be around 10.5 million per year. If he's forced to sign a 7 year contract, chances are he couldn't sign a 10.5 million dollar contract in 7 year when he's into is decline.
- porkchops1977


he'd likely sign a back diving contract so that last year would probably be closer to $7M. So we're talking about the difference between say $87M and $80M.

At 33 for a player of his level, $7M is not unattainable (Ignila, Sedins are in the neighborhood).

there is also something to be said for his ability to be free to negotiate with every team directly rather than through his current team.

i think the lack of history of it also speaks volumes as to the likelihood.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
Oh, I don't want to trade him! I was just throwing it out there because it doesn't seem like much of a stretch in terms of possibility. Dallas has had a nasty habit of trading my favorites over the years. He's kinda been in and out of Ruffs doghouse this season, so I worry about it somewhat, lol.

We need a top pairing d-man more than anything tho. If we were to trade him, it would be for that I'd think.

- orbit


I can see the move for a dman. When we drafted Horvat, I had been hoping for Nichushkin...
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
Cant wait for Stamkos to re-sign and watch all the Leaf fans pout or change their tune
- Ross77

It's not all Leafs fans. I argue constantly that Stamkos is not coming to Toronto.

Ek's rumour is rather disturbing as it indicates the likelihood is Steve will NOT resign in Tampa
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 11 @ 3:02 PM ET
There are Leafs fans who think it's going to happen, but aren't exactly happy about it.

Signing someone to an 8 year 10+mil contract when you're trying to restart and build a young team to grow with isn't necessarily the best idea.

- ehabs9

I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the Habs. I'd be very shocked to see him on the Leafs though
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 3:09 PM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the Habs. I'd be very shocked to see him on the Leafs though
- walshyleafsfan


Montreal won't have the cap space needed
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 11 @ 3:11 PM ET
Then the focus will just shift to Tavares.



Or any player from the greater Toronto area.

Because everyone wants to play for Toronto

EVERYONE!!!!
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