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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 13 @ 9:21 AM ET
i've never heard of that euro goalie?




- Dozzer


He is a new guy. Very hard to get rid of
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:26 AM ET
Goalies for $200

Answer: Niemi, Crawford, Osgoode

Question: Who are Stanley Cup winning goal tenders that nobody would peg for a Vezina?

We also would have accepted "Who are three people who've never been in my kitchen."


Strong teams win the cup, not goal tenders. Give up nothing of value for a netminder.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 13 @ 9:27 AM ET
He is a new guy. Very hard to get rid of
- bixll




sounds a lot like Clarkpes
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 13 @ 9:28 AM ET
So..big game tonight
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:28 AM ET
Sure.. and you actually made another point.. great teams can get away with a good but not great goalie.. Crawford is a shining example. We need defence.

They seem to have more long term success then the teams that do it vice versa ala More-eh-al

- Arctic_AARDVARK


beg to differ.
a proper top goalie is basis for any stanley cup (run).
the fact that chicago won it with Niemi and Crawford in goal says more about the strength of the rest of the team, but is really not a proof that any team can win it with a 'so so goalie'.

Quick had a superb season 2011-2012, but he's never been able to maintain these numbers in seasons afterwards.
B-Wforever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 09.16.2010

Jan 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
For the past few years I've said the difference between the habs and the buds success is between the pipes. The loss of price has turned the habs into a horrible team.
Finding the right guy for Toronto can have the opposite affect.

I don't think the answer lies in another teams cast off, but somewhere in the minors.
I don't think the leafs currently have a single minor league goalie drafted into the system. They'll have to correct this, this summer, and maybe look to trade for some already drafted goaltender prospects, or go out and try to find the next Eddie Belfour, undrafted guy.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
Goalies for $200

Answer: Niemi, Crawford, Osgoode

Question: Who are Stanley Cup winning goal tenders that nobody would peg for a Vezina?

We also would have accepted "Who are three people who've never been in my kitchen."


Strong teams win the cup, not goal tenders. Give up nothing of value for a netminder.

- magmoo


Basis for a strong team is a strong goaltender.
DamnBrasKiss
Joined: 04.10.2011

Jan 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
Maybe future goaltending...but that reeeeally shouldn't be addressed any time soon lol...not to be an advocate of "tanking", but if the team can battle hard like this, develop their players but still lose because of goaltending...win win.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
I'm not ready to say Sparks is not the answer. He's looked real good thus far.

I don't think there's this big rush to find a goalie. It's easier than finding a #1 C or a #1 D.

Reimer has the best save % in the NHL and top 5 in GAA. He's been real good. His issue is health.

If we get a top pick we owe Bernier big time. The Leafs would be in a playoff spot if not for him.
DamnBrasKiss
Joined: 04.10.2011

Jan 13 @ 9:34 AM ET
Goalies for $200

Answer: Niemi, Crawford, Osgoode

Question: Who are Stanley Cup winning goal tenders that nobody would peg for a Vezina?

We also would have accepted "Who are three people who've never been in my kitchen."


Strong teams win the cup, not goal tenders. Give up nothing of value for a netminder.

- magmoo


I dont know about that. Many times a goalie steals a series.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 13 @ 9:34 AM ET
beg to differ.
a proper top goalie is basis for any stanley cup (run).
the fact that chicago won it with Niemi and Crawford in goal says more about the strength of the rest of the team, but is really not a proof that any team can win it with a 'so so goalie'.

Quick had a superb season 2011-2012, but he's never been able to maintain these numbers in seasons afterwards.

- MaximusAurelius

I think you misread... I said great teams can win with a good goalie.. but teams that build from their goalie out don't seem to fair as well.. Luongo, Lundqvist, Miller have never won cups.
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:36 AM ET
I dont know about that. Many times a goalie steals a series.
- DamnBrasKiss

In your opinion, who was the last weak team to win the cup?
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
But does he have a cool nickname?

The Cat, The Eagle, CuJo.... it's important to us.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


You could probably call him The Giraffe
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 13 @ 9:39 AM ET
I think they need to continue hiring a new goalie coach every year. It's working great.
- AdamFrench

What do you think of that Pittsburgh Matt Murray kid?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
In your opinion, who was the last weak team to win the cup?
- magmoo


hurricanes
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
Lucas Neilson: Fixing the Most Glaring Need in the Maple Leafs Organization: Goaltending
Looking into the Future

- Lucas.Neilson

Not one of those goalies really interested me
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 13 @ 9:42 AM ET
You could probably call him The Giraffe
- Cloud

The brontosarous..

Bish don't kill my vibe.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 13 @ 9:42 AM ET
What do you think of that Pittsburgh Matt Murray kid?
- twiztedmike

Looks good.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 13 @ 9:42 AM ET
Surprised he ignored Pittsburgh. Goaltending is literally the only position of competence with Fleury, Murray, and Jarry.
DamnBrasKiss
Joined: 04.10.2011

Jan 13 @ 9:43 AM ET
In your opinion, who was the last weak team to win the cup?
- magmoo


I think you're stretching what I said a little too far. When you get to the playoffs, beyond the first round no teams should be considered "weak". That said, more times than not does a team move to the next round because of superb goaltending.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:44 AM ET
Well there you go...no need to write the full article

just ask this guy for the next goalie...

- YuenglingJagr


I'll give you a fourth option next to these three: Daniel Vladar (drafted 3rd round 2015 by Boston)
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 13 @ 9:44 AM ET
Surprised he ignored Pittsburgh. Goaltending is literally the only position of competence with Fleury, Murray, and Jarry.
- jfkst1


Fleury locked in and Murray is the future.

Zatkoff not really an upgrade, thats my logic.

Wasnt going to happen.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 13 @ 9:45 AM ET
Looks good.
- AdamFrench

he's Pens future without question.

I dont think they would trade him since he costs them basically nothing.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 13 @ 9:45 AM ET
Not one of those goalies really interested me
- twiztedmike


Who did you have in mind? Just curious.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 13 @ 9:48 AM ET
AmericanCowboy please refrain from posting links to competing blog sites.

Thank you.
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