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yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
These people who are saying Kopitar is not deserving of this contract really don't know how Kopitar plays.
- KINGS67

Exactly! You can send him over to the Ducks at 10 and we'd give you back Getz. And not one Kings fan would want that. Personally I was hoping he'd sign for more so he'd cause more cap havoc. But Kopi is worth 10. Plus, he's a total class act. Man do I wish he was a Duck.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:26 PM ET
The CUP for the Kings is now officially OVER. They are over rated and will never win another cup Book it Wallets collectively are getting to PHAT
- holeinone



Whats really said is the Pens traded for Kessel cap hit and the Leafs are retaining some of it....I say the Kings will be ok...
Hossa1881
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:36 PM ET
10 million per for Kopitar!?
He is not worth it.

- iknowbest



Toews and Kopitar are both worth what they make.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:38 PM ET
Toews and Kopitar are both worth what they make.
- Hossa1881



Yep...They are worth what someone is willing to pay them...
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jan 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
The CUP for the Kings is now officially OVER. They are over rated and will never win another cup Book it Wallets collectively are getting to PHAT
- holeinone

Shouldn't you be more worried about the train wreck of a team you are a fan of?
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
The CUP for the Kings is now officially OVER. They are over rated and will never win another cup Book it Wallets collectively are getting to PHAT
- holeinone

So in otherwords a Wash LA final
TommyRitas
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 08.19.2015

Jan 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
The thing that many people--including Mike Augello--seem to overlook in presuming that the Leafs are somehow "entitled" to Steven Stamkos because of their cap-space and their ownership group's wealth is that there is no State Income Tax in Florida. To clarify what this means, let's use Kopitar as an example: There is a 13.3% State Income Tax in California for anyone making 1 million dollars or more. That means that Kopitar's 10 million dollars per year translates exactly to 8.67 million dollars per year in Florida--something that the Lightning would likely find a way to manage, even if it meant trading Val Filppula and somehow moving-out another weighty contract.

Using Kevin Allen's ironic "guesstimate" that the Lightning would somehow sign Stamkos to an eight-year extension at 9.1 million per year as a point of reference, that would mean that the Maple Leafs would have to sign Stamkos to a deal worth 10,297,560 dollars per year to even match--not beat--the salary that Kevin Allen guesses would be fair. (That amount is calculated based upon the 13.16% Provincial Income Tax that citizens of Ontario pay on any salary over $200,000 per year.) Since Steven Stamkos has said on more than one occasion that he loves playing in Tampa Bay and hopes to spend his career here (see Fox Sports Florida's 2015-2016 Lightning Season Preview), it is unlikely that he will go all mercenary for a million or two per year from Toronto...I really doubt that.

If he is indeed moved before the trade deadline, it will more likely come as a result of cap compression and the need to sign the Triplets and Victor Hedman to extensions, not because "life is all about money" and everyone should go for the biggest pay day possible--that doesn't sound much like Steven Stamkos to me.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
So in otherwords a Wash LA final
- jimi james


I just don't buy it from them until they get past the 2nd round.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
toews 10.5 (2014)
kopitar 10 (2016)
malkin 9.5 (2013)
getzlaf 8.3 (2013)
giroux 8.3 (2013)
bergeron 6.9 (2013)


the only one that stands out as better value is bergeron

the rest seem close enough.

i'm starting to re-think where stamkos fits in after looking at it this way. somewhere between malkin and kopitar seems right.

- Tumbleweed


Its funny when you look at when those guys signed those deals, at the time in 2013-14, with the TV deal freshly in place, all signs were pointing towards the cap always going up....now its a different story, so those deals at the time were justified.

Today Kopitar is justified to be paid similar cash as those guys, but the financial landscape of the NHL has changed, so it seems like way too much money for a player now.

Basically lockouts are coming again, things are too wonky with. 3 Years and its all messed
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 13 @ 5:03 PM ET
The CUP for the Kings is now officially OVER. They are over rated and will never win another cup Book it Wallets collectively are getting to PHAT
- holeinone

Your Pens doe...
wingfanto
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.10.2006

Jan 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
What signs on DET & Stamkos? It's only hearsay & speculation so why be so vague unless it's total BS?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:07 PM ET
What signs on DET & Stamkos? It's only hearsay & speculation so why be so vague unless it's total BS?
- wingfanto



Doubt that
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 13 @ 5:12 PM ET
Its funny when you look at when those guys signed those deals, at the time in 2013-14, with the TV deal freshly in place, all signs were pointing towards the cap always going up....now its a different story, so those deals at the time were justified.

Today Kopitar is justified to be paid similar cash as those guys, but the financial landscape of the NHL has changed, so it seems like way too much money for a player now.

Basically lockouts are coming again, things are too wonky with. 3 Years and its all messed

- DDM-Coga


it'll be an interesting couple of years. i don't know how the cap rises next year in face of 2 years of the declining canadian dollar.

Three years from now, the canadian dollar may be on the upswing again and magically hockey revenues will start growing. if not, i agree, there are going to be a lot of upset people in the nhl...
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:13 PM ET
Good because we got Kopi.

Bad because looch is going to Vancouver
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:16 PM ET
Good because we got Kopi.

Bad because looch is going to Vancouver

- Deadmau55



That should be interesting...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 13 @ 5:20 PM ET
Its funny when you look at when those guys signed those deals, at the time in 2013-14, with the TV deal freshly in place, all signs were pointing towards the cap always going up....now its a different story, so those deals at the time were justified.

Today Kopitar is justified to be paid similar cash as those guys, but the financial landscape of the NHL has changed, so it seems like way too much money for a player now.

Basically lockouts are coming again, things are too wonky with. 3 Years and its all messed

- DDM-Coga


on another note, is pickard any good? what's he going to cost next year?
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Jan 13 @ 5:35 PM ET
What signs on DET & Stamkos? It's only hearsay & speculation so why be so vague unless it's total BS?
- wingfanto

Dude, it's an ek blog...
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 13 @ 5:50 PM ET
The thing that many people--including Mike Augello--seem to overlook in presuming that the Leafs are somehow "entitled" to Steven Stamkos because of their cap-space and their ownership group's wealth is that there is no State Income Tax in Florida
- TommyRitas[/i
]. To clarify what this means, let's use Kopitar as an example: There is a 13.3% State Income Tax in California for anyone making 1 million dollars or more. That means that Kopitar's 10 million dollars per year translates exactly to 8.67 million dollars per year in Florida--something that the Lightning would likely find a way to manage, even if it meant trading Val Filppula and somehow moving-out another weighty contract.

Using Kevin Allen's ironic "guesstimate" that the Lightning would somehow sign Stamkos to an eight-year extension at 9.1 million per year as a point of reference, that would mean that the Maple Leafs would have to sign Stamkos to a deal worth 10,297,560 dollars per year to even match--not beat--the salary that Kevin Allen guesses would be fair. (That amount is calculated based upon the 13.16% Provincial Income Tax that citizens of Ontario pay on any salary over $200,000 per year.) Since Steven Stamkos has said on more than one occasion that he loves playing in Tampa Bay and hopes to spend his career here (see Fox Sports Florida's 2015-2016 Lightning Season Preview), it is unlikely that he will go all mercenary for a million or two per year from Toronto...I really doubt that.

If he is indeed moved before the trade deadline, it will more likely come as a result of cap compression and the need to sign the Triplets and Victor Hedman to extensions, not because "life is all about money" and everyone should go for the biggest pay day possible--that doesn't sound much like Steven Stamkos to me.


EVERYONE brings this-up. The lack of taxes man squat if they're not going to give him 10+ per year for 8 years. The savings are if they give what other teams are willing to do. The fact it's mid January makes me think they are not offering him enough.

todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
only way Stamkos ends up in Detroit is if he wants to end up in Detroit.
- southpaww82

He won't go to Detroit yzerman is his gm now he won't copy yzerman
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 13 @ 5:57 PM ET
so you're telling me theres a chance..

- southpaww82

Oh most definitely 👊🏻
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
Exactly! You can send him over to the Ducks at 10 and we'd give you back Getz. And not one Kings fan would want that. Personally I was hoping he'd sign for more so he'd cause more cap havoc. But Kopi is worth 10. Plus, he's a total class act. Man do I wish he was a Duck.
- yzermaneely



You are correct in this statement. Again, the people who are bashing this contract don't know how he plays which is a shame.
Here's a fun fact:

Most Points Among Players From 2005 NHL Draft
Sidney Crosby 886
Anze Kopitar 645
Paul Stastny 522
Bobby Ryan 427
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 13 @ 6:26 PM ET
Good because we got Kopi.

Bad because looch is going to Vancouver

- Deadmau55

There are ways to keep Lucic

Don't sign Lewis trade Brown(or get rid of the contract in the expansion draft), Nolan, and or Clifford

Buyout Greene (1.667 in savings) while the cap goes up a little maybe 1.3MM this next year.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 13 @ 6:27 PM ET
on another note, is pickard any good? what's he going to cost next year?
- Tumbleweed


Pickard is pretty good, he will be a very good back up. I dont think they trade him, they will move Berra or waiver him to make room for Picks.

Not sure what he resigns for, I assume around the 1.1m mark

Edit: Nevermind, we have a new back up now
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 13 @ 6:29 PM ET
Toews and Kopitar are both worth what they make.
- Hossa1881

Yes. Yes they are
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 13 @ 6:35 PM ET
Pickard is pretty good, he will be a very good back up. I dont think they trade him, they will move Berra or waiver him to make room for Picks.

Not sure what he resigns for, I assume around the 1.1m mark

- DDM-Coga


mmmm... i'm wondering who might be available next year with long-term starter potential for the leafs. scratch pickard from the list.
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