Not bad 8 years in office 3 players on the club

Benning has 2 from his first draft playing. Again the reason Benning has to use 2 seconds was to fill holes left by Gillis
- VANTEL

Haha yeah, I'm a big Bo fan but I'm definitely not defending Gillis' trades and drafting. I'm not big on Gaunce, I like Shink. The trades... well we all know what happened there. Benning has done well I think. Vrbata/Sbisa and Miller were good signings, especially if we can get a good pick for Vrbata here. He's drafted pretty well, not sure about Brisbois, he seems a long-term prospect but I really don't know.

Dorsett and Torres are nothing alike
- VANTEL

I think torres is better player in many ways, dorsett makes up for that with being much much smarter.
both play with an edge, hit, fight, can score but not large numbers

but lets hear it, make your case in what you mean ...usually you do

Dorsett and Torres are nothing alike
- VANTEL

Except the gingervitus.

ok...so alternatives? Whats your plan then
- SMBDragon

It was discussed yesterday, Lucic or 4 John Scotts.

ok...so alternatives? Whats your plan then
- SMBDragon

Alternative to what? You were saying what great toughness they bring. I don't think they bring all that much. Prust has been a waste of a roster spot. Dorsett ...I like his game. Hits hustles...but he ain't scaring anyone in a fight.

Haha yeah, I'm a big Bo fan but I'm definitely not defending Gillis' trades and drafting. I'm not big on Gaunce, I like Shink. The trades... well we all know what happened there. Benning has done well I think. Vrbata/Sbisa and Miller were good signings, especially if we can get a good pick for Vrbata here. He's drafted pretty well, not sure about Brisbois, he seems a long-term prospect but I really don't know.
- neem55

We did the moves we thought were correct. Very seldom does trading a first round player ever work out. That is your future.

You are trading your future for players that other teams are willing to part with.

I think torres is better player in many ways, dorsett makes up for that with being much much smarter.
both play with an edge, hit, fight, can score but not large numbers

but lets hear it, make your case in what you mean ...usually you do
- SMBDragon

I think Pedun would be a nice start, not an alternative but he's a punisher. Sbisa back will help too.

We did the moves we thought were correct. Very seldom does trading a first round player ever work out. That is your future.

You are trading your future for players that other teams are willing to part with.
- VANTEL

I agree with Belcher, at the time we were contenders and I thought derek Roy or whatevr rental was a descent idea at the time.

It was discussed yesterday, Lucic or 4 John Scotts.
- A_SteamingLombardi

lucic is 1 way yes. Not sure its the right player....but thats debatable. I'd prefer big Joe, but theres prob no way thatd happen. Burns is a great choice...prob the best choice. Without all the dumbness lucic and scott bring.

John scott no.

I think Pedun would be a nice start, not an alternative but he's a punisher. Sbisa back will help too.
- neem55

yep 100% with ya there

I think torres is better player in many ways, dorsett makes up for that with being much much smarter.
both play with an edge, hit, fight, can score but not large numbers

but lets hear it, make your case in what you mean ...usually you do
- SMBDragon

Torres plays on the edge. Head hunts is a bit crazy, sometimes out to hurt or injure.

Dorsett is a straight forward in your face, team first , hard worker. He doesn't hit as hard, he is not a cheap shot artist. He is a lunch bucket player. Torres is Cooke and Averys love child

I agree with Belcher, at the time we were contenders and I thought derek Roy or whatevr rental was a descent idea at the time.
- neem55

I never liked the move for him. I was OK with making a move, but he was just another underwhelming diminutive C that we threw away futures for.

I agree with Belcher, at the time we were contenders and I thought derek Roy or whatevr rental was a descent idea at the time.
- neem55

I said I understood the moves back then but they were the wrong moves

It was discussed yesterday, Lucic or 4 John Scotts.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Now that he's in the AHL can John Scott get voted into the all star game there as well?

Alternative to what? You were saying what great toughness they bring. I don't think they bring all that much. Prust has been a waste of a roster spot. Dorsett ...I like his game. Hits hustles...but he ain't scaring anyone in a fight.
- Bullfrog77

bullfrog please read more carefully. You seem to greatly embellish things people say.

I DID NOT say they were super tough, I said we are tougher with them than without... we cant just dump them both leaving us weaker as the poster suggested.

How....how.... HOW did you get such great toughness from that?

Torres plays on the edge. Head hunts is a bit crazy, sometimes out to hurt or injure.

Dorsett is a straight forward in your face, team first , hard worker. He doesn't hit as hard, he is not a cheap shot artist. He is a lunch bucket player. Torres is Cooke and Averys love child
- VANTEL

Ill def agree with that. Which is why I said a lesser version of torres but smarter which makes up for those areas hes not as good in

essentially if torres was much smarter in what he did, was smaller than he is hed be dorsett

In other news, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

lucic is 1 way yes. Not sure its the right player....but thats debatable. I'd prefer big Joe, but theres prob no way thatd happen. Burns is a great choice...prob the best choice. Without all the dumbness lucic and scott bring.

John scott no.
- SMBDragon

You want Brent Burns (9 fights) to replace Dorsetts (122 fights) toughness?

Ill def agree with that. Which is why I said a lesser version of torres but smarter which makes up for those areas hes not as good in

essentially if torres was much smarter in what he did, was smaller than he is hed be dorsett
- SMBDragon

My friend , not even in the same ballpark. I think I know what you are getting at. Dorsett is a decent 4 th liner. Torres is a high risk high reward scumbag. The closest player to Torres is Cooke Averey.

In other news, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
- golfingsince

She's still got options, lot of trans folk out there these days

Torres plays on the edge. Head hunts is a bit crazy, sometimes out to hurt or injure.

Dorsett is a straight forward in your face, team first , hard worker. He doesn't hit as hard, he is not a cheap shot artist. He is a lunch bucket player. Torres is Cooke and Averys love child
- VANTEL

You want Brent Burns (9 fights) to replace Dorsetts (122 fights) toughness?
- A_SteamingLombardi

I hope they don't want him to play D.....

She's still got options, lot of trans folk out there these days
- neem55

True enough, IF she had them.

I hope they don't want him to play D.....
- golfingsince

Better than having him fight.

My friend , not even in the same ballpark. I think I know what you are getting at. Dorsett is a decent 4 th liner. Torres is a high risk high reward scumbag. The closest player to Torres is Cooke Averey.
- VANTEL

I think we are looking at different aspects. But I see your point too. Sounds like youd rather have dorsett? Def safer bet Id say

torres was very entertaining when he was here. Never knew what he'd do.

That scowl hed have on the bench....but I had heard he hated AV. I recall him ripping into someone on the coaching staff during a game. think it was bowness