It's the NHL, things don't make sense. That's the exact kind of hit that has to be removed from the game.
- MJL

Between last night and that ruling, I am literally just shaking my head

I don't even know WTF you do with that, as a player

NHL dropped the ball. They got this one wrong. This is why these kind of hits are going to continue.
- MJL

Yup, sad.

The NHL has, and apparently continues, to put too much stock into whether or not the player on the receiving end of the hit was injured
- YuenglingJagr

I'm sure that was a factor, and it should be, but Jurco escaping injury should not determine whether there is a suspension or not. It should be a part of how long of a suspension.

White made a mistake, I'd still sit the guy who has a 4.5 million dollar cap hit and is goalless in 50 straight games. Unfathomable a player can do that.
- PLindbergh31

Have to imagine he and Amac are the next two targets in Hextall's sight. Hopefully he can continue his magic

I thought the same exact thing, that the hit was late. It sure seemed late. The standard for a late hit is .8 seconds. They timed it at something like .58, so according to that standard, it wasn't late.
- MJL

Replays make everything way worse.

Of course when you play the video at a 1/4th the speed of actual game play it looks late and dangerous and needless and whatever else.

But we cant forget how fast things transpire on the actual ice. Do I think White picked Jurko and aimed for his head and tried to hurt him? No.

Do I think the hit was late? No.

Do I think he tried to hit him as hard as he could? Yes.

And yes, while I do think he made contact with the head, I argue that that was principle point of contact. Principle point of contact means that it was the main/only part that was contacted. That check ( while it may have hit him in the head) also had full body contact with it as well. It is probably the main reason Jurko didnt get knocked out.

Also. I dont know how it differs from many other hits that are high but through the body.

Yup, sad.
- BiggE

I'd love to support a player of a team that I root for, but I think it's the wrong decision.

Replays make everything way worse.

Of course when you play the video at a 1/4th the speed of actual game play it looks late and dangerous and needless and whatever else.

But we cant forget how fast things transpire on the actual ice. Do I think White picked Jurko and aimed for his head and tried to hurt him? No.

Do I think the hit was late? No.

Do I think he tried to hit him as hard as he could? Yes.

And yes, while I do think he made contact with the head, I argue that that was principle point of contact. Principle point of contact means that it was the main/only part that was contacted. That check ( while it may have hit him in the head) also had full body contact with it as well. It is probably the main reason Jurko didnt get knocked out.

Also. I dont know how it differs from many other hits that are high but through the body.
- jak521

It looked late to me in real game speed also. My first thought before any replays were shown, was that the hit was late.

The primary point of contact was the jaw in my opinion.

White made a mistake, I'd still sit the guy who has a 4.5 million dollar cap hit and is goalless in 50 straight games. Unfathomable a player can do that.
- PLindbergh31

I agree with you that RJ needs to sit. He's done nothing out there for a long time. It would be more of a message being sent that a hit of that nature and stupidity like that won't be tolerated. Even if he was only benched for a game.

OH, MY GOSH

If I was Detroit, I would be on FIRE

WTF, NHL. WTF -- that was the very definition of predatory. WTF
- AllInForFlyers

What does predatory mean? He meant to hit the guy and hit him as hard as he could?

Have to imagine he and Amac are the next two targets in Hextall's sight. Hopefully he can continue his magic
- funmaster18

http://sonsofpenn.com/fly...ald-dangle-spin-phantoms/

Hextall's phone should be ringing off the hook.

The NHL has, and apparently continues, to put too much stock into whether or not the player on the receiving end of the hit was injured
- YuenglingJagr

Exactly, and it is just flat out wrong. The offender still needs to be punished for that type of hit, irregardless if the opponent is injured or not. Now, if you want to tack on additional games because the opponent was injured on the play, fine. However, if the league really cares about player safety (sadly, outside of the superstar players, I'm not convinced they really do), you need to dole out punishment for these types of plays.

I'd love to support a player of a team that I root for, but I think it's the wrong decision.
- MJL

Exactly. I honestly think White's a perfectly acceptable bottom six player and I like how he plays, though I know his metrics aren't always the best

But holy poop. That hit was horrible. It was horrible. Does Jurco have to have his jaw unhinged and his skull displaced for the NHL to say how bad that was?

What does predatory mean? He meant to hit the guy and hit him as hard as he could?
- jak521

It means that a player sees another player is vulnerable and moves in for the kill, instead of just going with the flow of the play. Rinaldo is a predatory hitter, so is Gudas.

I'm in agreement with most on here about the quality of the broadcast team from last night, but didn't anyone else get a little sick when they compared Gudas to Ulf Samuelsson and Darius Kasparitis?

Great win last night. I've really enjoyed watching them pretty much since Thanksgiving.

What does predatory mean? He meant to hit the guy and hit him as hard as he could?
- jak521

Predatory means hitting and/or targeting an unsuspecting player, who is defenseless, who is unaware you are coming to make contact

I said it last night, that in the old days, I would have felt Jurco should have expected back pressure and potential contact when cutting into the middle

But that thought process was wrong on my part. Because the player is trying to make a hockey play, an offensive play, by skating and shooting.

White wasn't trying to make a hockey play. He wasn't going for the puck. He was looking for a huge hit on a player who he knew didn't see him coming

It looked late to me in real game speed also. My first thought before any replays were shown, was that the hit was late.

The primary point of contact was the jaw in my opinion.
- MJL

I disagree that it was the primary point. The idea originally behind the primary point of contact was to remove hits like Cooke on Savard.

White may have hit the head, but he also went through the chest/body and even legs of Jurko.

So if those are going to be called there, then they have to be called consistently across the board... including hits by Kronwall. Nearly every one of his "Kronwalled" hits make contact with the head.

Predatory means hitting an targeting an unsuspecting player, who is defenseless, who is unaware you are coming to make contact

I said it last night, that in the old days, I would have felt Jurco should have expected back pressure and potential contact when cutting into the middle

But that thought process was wrong on my part. Because the player is trying to make a hockey play, an offensive play, by skating and shooting.

White wasn't trying to make a hockey play. He wasn't going for the puck. He was looking for a huge hit on a player who he knew didn't see him coming
- AllInForFlyers

Perfectly described.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago

No supplemental discipline for White.
- PLindbergh31

(frank). Are you kidding me? Sorry weal

Have to imagine he and Amac are the next two targets in Hextall's sight. Hopefully he can continue his magic
- funmaster18

If he can get rid of their contracts, I'd be in favor of erecting a statue of him right now.

http://sonsofpenn.com/flyers/macdonald-dangle-spin-phantoms/

Hextall's phone should be ringing off the hook.
- TobyFlenderson

I see what he's doing. stashing him in the AHL until the postseason then BAM! Secret weapon.

I disagree that it was the primary point. The idea originally behind the primary point of contact was to remove hits like Cooke on Savard.

White may have hit the head, but he also went through the chest/body and even legs of Jurko.

So if those are going to be called there, then they have to be called consistently across the board... including hits by Kronwall. Nearly every one of his "Kronwalled" hits make contact with the head.
- jak521

I agree, there have been hits by players like Kronwall that have been bad hits. Jurco's jaw clearly takes the overwhelming majority of the contact from White.

If he can get rid of their contracts, I'd be in favor of erecting a statue of him right now.
- PLindbergh31

would the statue be of him with the entire NHL bent over in front of him?

I agree with you that RJ needs to sit. He's done nothing out there for a long time. It would be more of a message being sent that a hit of that nature and stupidity like that won't be tolerated. Even if he was only benched for a game.
- TobyFlenderson

Tough to leave the team down a forward early in the second game of a back to back, that said I think White just got a bit overzealous. I don't think he was being selfish.

would the statue be of him with the entire NHL bent over in front of him?
- funmaster18

No, it would be a statue of him following behind Holmgren with a shovel.

Predatory means hitting and/or targeting an unsuspecting player, who is defenseless, who is unaware you are coming to make contact

I said it last night, that in the old days, I would have felt Jurco should have expected back pressure and potential contact when cutting into the middle

But that thought process was wrong on my part. Because the player is trying to make a hockey play, an offensive play, by skating and shooting.

White wasn't trying to make a hockey play. He wasn't going for the puck. He was looking for a huge hit on a player who he knew didn't see him coming
- AllInForFlyers

So anytime a player is "unsuspecting of a hit, they shouldnt be allowed to be hit"?

I saw White looking at a guy carrying the puck, and trying to separate the guy from the puck. Unfortunately the guy got the shot of literally a half a second prior to the hit. Now... go out, skate on the ice and try to make a decision about hitting or not hitting in .56 seconds. Big hits are gonna happen. Sometimes bad things will be the result.