Doesn't make any sense, how do you know the head wasn't targeted? How is Jurco not missing a shift evidence that the head wasn't targeted? Secondly, I watched the broadcast, and Ray Ferraro clearly called it a head shot. Lastly, and most importantly, replays show that the head was clearly the principal point of contact.

Ferraro said and I quote " the hit is directly to the head, the jaw of Thomas Jurco"

Here is the link, complete with audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXh_DcxdZ6k
- MJL

Good question. How do you know it was? Because Ray Ferraro said it was?

Who exactly is Ray Ferraro except some guy who you parrot opinions from?

Well, you can quibble over .2 seconds, but no matter what, that type of hit is uncalled for.

edit: also the way he exploded up into Jurco was not necessary, a simple shoulder to shoulder hit would have been more than sufficient.
- BiggE

challenge accepted

Bettman is a New Yorker....what do you expect?
- vejim

We all know what THAT is code for

Well, you can quibble over .2 seconds, but no matter what, that type of hit is uncalled for.

edit: also the way he exploded up into Jurco was not necessary, a simple shoulder to shoulder hit would have been more than sufficient.
- BiggE

Agree 100%. That kind of predatory hit, on a vulnerable player, is the kind of hit that needs to be removed. If you see a player in that situation, need to let up. It's hard because these players have played this way all their lives. If you see that opportunity, you lay the guy out. It's the culture change that I've posted about many times, that needs to happen.

Actual isolated footage of Ryan White's hit:

Good question. How do you know it was? Because Ray Ferraro said it was?

Who exactly is Ray Ferraro except some guy who you parrot opinions from?
- 77rams

There are replays of the hit, where it is obvious, that it was a hit to the head. My opinion of the play, is based on what actually happened, and not what someone else has said.

I do not know if it was intentional or not, but that doesn't really matter. I do think calling it a match penalty was a reach, but definitely a 5 minute major and worthy of a suspension.

Ferraro's comments were offered in rebuttal to your post of "The same thing others were looking at, including the NBC team, so obviously what you observed wasn't the overwhelming take on the issue."

What evidence can you offer that it was not a direct head shot?

Actual isolated footage of Ryan White's hit:

- BulliesPhan87

based on this clip, totally malicious imho

Well, you can quibble over .2 seconds, but no matter what, that type of hit is uncalled for.

edit: also the way he exploded up into Jurco was not necessary, a simple shoulder to shoulder hit would have been more than sufficient.
- BiggE

White's lucky it's not up to me, because I actually like him more than most and he'd still be sitting for a stretch -- longer than he'd think -- if it was my call, because it was a garbage hit

So today's topic of argument is whether White hit Jurco in the head?

The real problem, as I see it, is that the hit was also late, and, as we see way too often in the NHL, it shows a complete lack of respect for another player. You can talk about how violent the game was back in the 70s all you want, but one thing you didn't see were guys trying to drill one another in the head. White should absolutely get suspended, these type of hits have no place in the game.

Now, as far as the call on Simmonds at the end of regulation, that was B.S. I have no problem with waiving off the goal, Simmonds did make contact with the goalie, and, while he may not have been fully in the crease, he was certainly on the edge. However, I don't think it warranted a penalty as the contact was clearly accidental.

Oh well, any game refereed by Dave Jackson is going to be a horror show, he is one of the worst refs that I have ever seen and I've been watching the NHL for nearly half a century.
- BiggE

Agree.

The attempted targeting to the head was questionable at best. If suspended, it should be because of the hit while Jurco was vulnerable.

White's lucky it's not up to me, because I actually like him more than most and he'd still be sitting for a stretch -- longer than he'd think -- if it was my call, because it was a garbage hit
- AllInForFlyers

If the NHL was really serious about eliminating that kind of hit, they would. Have to change the culture.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago

No supplemental discipline for White.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago

No supplemental discipline for White.
- PLindbergh31

OH, MY GOSH

If I was Detroit, I would be on FIRE

WTF, NHL. WTF -- that was the very definition of predatory. WTF

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago

No supplemental discipline for White.
- PLindbergh31

Man, I am surprised about that. League must have believed he still played for the Habs or something...

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago

No supplemental discipline for White.
- PLindbergh31

OH, MY GOSH

If I was Detroit, I would be on FIRE

WTF, NHL. WTF -- that was the very definition of predatory. WTF
- AllInForFlyers

NHL dropped the ball. They got this one wrong. This is why these kind of hits are going to continue.

OH, MY GOSH

If I was Detroit, I would be on FIRE

WTF, NHL. WTF -- that was the very definition of predatory. WTF
- AllInForFlyers

Conspiracy against Weal getting in the lineup!

Conspiracy against Weal getting in the lineup!
- PLindbergh31

I'd sit White anyway for being stupid and taking a 5 minute major. And also putting your team down a forward 3 minutes into the game. Of course, it's not up to me and White seems to be a favorite of Hakstol.

- YuenglingJagr

I'd sit White anyway for being stupid and taking a 5 minute major. And also putting your team down a forward 3 minutes into the game. Of course, it's not up to me and White seems to be a favorite of Hakstol.
- TobyFlenderson

I agree, send a message that he has to avoid that kind of hit, but I doubt it happens.

NHL dropped the ball. They got this one wrong. This is why these kind of hits are going to continue.
- MJL

That's so bad...I don't even know WTF anybody could be looking at where they don't see a blindside, predatory hit where White comes up through the jaw area

WTF. That is unbelievable. If a Flyer got drilled like that, I would be on FIRE

Man, I am surprised about that. League must have believed he still played for the Habs or something...
- Hextall271

It's because he is White

That's so bad...I don't even know WTF anybody could be looking at where they don't see a blindside, predatory hit where White comes up through the jaw area

WTF. That is unbelievable. If a Flyer got drilled like that, I would be on FIRE
- AllInForFlyers

It's the NHL, things don't make sense. That's the exact kind of hit that has to be removed from the game.

I agree, send a message that he has to avoid that kind of hit, but I doubt it happens.
- MJL

The NHL has, and apparently continues, to put too much stock into whether or not the player on the receiving end of the hit was injured

I'd sit White anyway for being stupid and taking a 5 minute major. And also putting your team down a forward 3 minutes into the game. Of course, it's not up to me and White seems to be a favorite of Hakstol.
- TobyFlenderson

White made a mistake, I'd still sit the guy who has a 4.5 million dollar cap hit and is goalless in 50 straight games. Unfathomable a player can do that.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago

No supplemental discipline for White.
- PLindbergh31

Weal is not happy.