Also has 12 goals, he has been placed in a different role and made it work. Becuase that is what good players do....
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Not making this an anti-Reinhart argument but he is on pace for 35 points playing on the 1st line and top PP time.

Do you think other teams would argue he isn't very good or unproven?

I guess it thats what it takes to get it done.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

only if it's the lowest of the third-rounders

Not making this an anti-Reinhart argument but he is on pace for 35 points playing on the 1st line and top PP time.

Do you think other teams would argue he isn't very good or unproven?
- sbroads24

He is also on the Buffalo Sabres, not the TBL. If Sam was on TBL how many points more does that get him? 10? 15?

skunk has worked on and developed a pretty good shot...has 12 goals and potted a hat trick ta boot
- Michael Pachla

That's good. My point is he has a limited amount NHL games, and hasn't lit the world on fire, but I think it's obvious that he is improving.

He is also on the Buffalo Sabres, not the TBL. If Sam was on TBL how many points more does that get him? 10? 15?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

If he were on the Lightning he would be in the same spot as Drouin....the 3rd and 4th line

That's good. My point is he has a limited amount NHL games, and hasn't lit the world on fire, but I think it's obvious that he is improving.
- sbroads24

I get it, Brodie...personally, i'm not banging the drouin drum, especially if it costs a high draft pick and/or a top d-man/prospect

If he were on the Lightning he would be in the same spot as Drouin....the 3rd and 4th line
- sbroads24

Playing against 3rd and 4th liners instead of the top lines...... Im not comparing players. It doesnt really matter. The guy is not proven thats it. No one can say he is. And he has 4 goals in 89 games. Thats fact. If someone wants to overpay for potential, let them. Im just saying i don't want it to be us.

Playing against 3rd and 4th liners instead of the top lines...... Im not comparing players. It doesnt really matter. The guy is not proven thats it. No one can say he is. And he has 4 goals in 89 games. Thats fact. If someone wants to overpay for potential, let them. Im just saying i don't want it to be us.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I get it, I personally think there is about a 2% chance we land him.

I just think his struggles are overstated.

Playing against 3rd and 4th liners instead of the top lines...... Im not comparing players. It doesnt really matter. The guy is not proven thats it. No one can say he is. And he has 4 goals in 89 games. Thats fact. If someone wants to overpay for potential, let them. Im just saying i don't want it to be us.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

That sucks. At least Sam is scoring . As far as his lack of assists. Just shows how we don't have any finishers on the team.

He doesn't fit the profile of what the GM wants anyway.
- kingcong39

And what profile is that? (Im seriously curious) Has GMTM said exactly what he is looking for.

That sucks. At least Sam is scoring . As far as his lack of assists. Just shows how we don't have any finishers on the team.
- cabin

Pure scorers.

Legwand>Drouin

And what profile is that? (Im seriously curious) Has GMTM said exactly what he is looking for.
- ImThatGuy

Under 24 that can play a 200ft game? Idk. Obviously it isn't guys that can put the puck in the net......



I kid, I kid.

I get it, I personally think there is about a 2% chance we land him.

I just think his struggles are overstated.
- sbroads24

I find it fascinating that a guy who had a 30 assist season with TBL already is who was thought of being a high end talent is just "Meh" He has not scored yet so he wont do us any good.

40 points in 89 games. 20 years old, top end talent. "Meh"

I find it fascinating that a guy who had a 30 assist season with TBL already is who was thought of being a high end talent is just "Meh" He has not scored yet so he wont do us any good.

40 points in 89 games. 20 years old, top end talent. "Meh"
- ImThatGuy

Which is my point, yet people are enamored with our 35 point 1st liner who's 20.

Most players don't light the league up with 50/60 points at 19/20

Which is my point, yet people are enamored with our 35 point 1st liner who's 20.

Most players don't light the league up with 50/60 points at 19/20
- sbroads24

The difference is out 20 year old isn't complaining and begging for a trade and obviously having issues in the locker room. Do we need Manziel on the Sabres?

No one knows, everyone acts like he is already proven. He isn't, AT ALL. Stats are horrible on a very offensive team with talent. I don't understand why everyone is willing to sell the farm to get him. I keep girgs over trading him for Drouin. Ennis+ i take a shot because isn't part of this team going forward anyway.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I think that's why you won't see him traded, asking is too high for his ACTUAL value....unless of course they resign Stamkos and the asking for Drouin comes down to reality.

And what profile is that? (Im seriously curious) Has GMTM said exactly what he is looking for.
- ImThatGuy

On WGR he said he needed a LHD. We have too many RHD. Maybe a swap somewhere? I hear Gorges has gotten some looks from the Kings, but with the trade they just made getting Luke Shenn they are most likely done. Jamie may go. Weber may go. It's less of what he wants to get (that he holds tighter to the chest I guess), but more about what he is willing to deal. I doubt we send away any younger players this time around unless it's a RHD for LHD swap.

On WGR he said he needed a LHD. We have too many RHD. Maybe a swap somewhere? I hear Gorges has gotten some looks from the Kings, but with the trade they just made getting Luke Shenn they are most likely done. Jamie may go. Weber may go. It's less of what he wants to get (that he holds tighter to the chest I guess), but more about what he is willing to deal. I doubt we send away any younger players this time around unless it's a RHD for LHD swap.
- RhinoFan

We need offense as well.

ROR has been are only consistent offensive threat. Ranking 21 in the league. The next best (Eichel) is 105 in the league in scoring.

Just traded Cody McCormick to Boston for Ryan Spooner in NHL 16

We need offense as well.

ROR has been are only consistent offensive threat. Ranking 21 in the league. The next best (Eichel) is 105 in the league in scoring.
- ImThatGuy

GF/G - 27th
GA/G - 17th

They aren't horrible. He scored at a good rate while playing 3rd and 4th line minutes last season.

Their is obviously a rift with Drouin and the Lightning. I think he will shine somewhere else
- sbroads24

Sounds a lot like Tyler Seguin's situation.

I think that's why you won't see him traded, asking is too high for his ACTUAL value....unless of course they resign Stamkos and the asking for Drouin comes down to reality.
- nikel

He will absolutely be traded. A former 3rd overall pick, with massive upside and 20 years old.

Pure scorers.

Legwand>Drouin
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Sounds a lot like Tyler Seguin's situation.
- buffalofan19

Yea, I'd love to get Drouin, outside of Eichel, he'd be the most talented Sabre, and I'm not sure if anyone would be close

Yea, I'd love to get Drouin, outside of Eichel, he'd be the most talented Sabre, and I'm not sure if anyone would be close
- sbroads24

. @BWildeCTV reports MTL pushing hard to make Jonathan Drouin trade with TB. My take on that is as follows:

— Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) January 18, 2016

MTL one of handful of teams with serious interest but it's near impossible to handicap frontrunner/timeline. Only Steve Yzerman knows that.

— Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) January 18, 2016

The Bobfather has spoken