This is the argument I would have made
Don't want to be getting in the playoffs

edit: don't see how he wouldn't help beyond this year though... seems kind of shortsighted.
- neem55

He probably would help beyond this year, but not enough. Also will ask for a boat load of money in his next contract, and I don't think he would be worth it. I'd rather see what we have in our youth.

yeah, it's nice they were good at d in junior. So was cole cassels, how's he doing in the AHL? NHL is a different animal it's pretty rare that guys get it and don't take a while to learn from their peers, which is different than simply adjusting.
- neem55

So you want to compare a 3rd round pick that succeeded as an overager to our two first round picks that made the NHL as teenagers? Dude, if you truly think that Bo and Jared's NHL success hinges on them having Brandon (frank)ing Sutter around to show them the ropes I've been giving you faaaaaaar too much credit.

Who would his wingers be here? imo not much better than he has now.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Not a bad point, definitely depends. If you slot him in between the twins it might be pretty interesting, as he has proven he can play defensively up the middle and Hank has proven he may no longer be able to ( i've liked Sutter here for this reason). Other than that... ? I like a little handsy gritty guy with somebody like virt going forward, that's just IMO. But I am with the general agreement that he's not worth it and doesn't fill our big needs.

Who would his wingers be here? imo not much better than what he has now.
- A_SteamingLombardi

McCann???

WTF bro?

ya having to resign him is a big one, I agree. It might put more pressure on JB to buyout burrows and and trade miller and Vrbata though
- neem55

Miller? No track record yet of JB moving a contract ahead of time that he signed

yeah, it's nice they were good at d in junior. So was cole cassels, how's he doing in the AHL? NHL is a different animal it's pretty rare that guys get it and don't take a while to learn from their peers, which is different than simply adjusting.
- neem55

Wasn't McCann considered a two way center with skill? Let him learn and grow. Cassels was a third or fourth round pick, so no surprise he's struggling. At the same time, let's see what a coupe of AHL years do for him.

yeah, it's nice they were good at d in junior. So was cole cassels, how's he doing in the AHL? NHL is a different animal it's pretty rare that guys get it and don't take a while to learn from their peers, which is different than simply adjusting.
- neem55

Cole Cassels will be fine will probably be nothing more than a 3rd line energy player in the mold of hansen or burrows type. He had a serious injury and couldnt train all summer and hes 20 years old. Shink had a poor first year in the AHL too. See what Cassels does next season plus I dont know how poor his defense has been in utica I thought he was just having trouble putting the puck in the net.

So you want to compare a 3rd round pick that succeeded as an overager to our two first round picks that made the NHL as teenagers? Dude, if you truly think that Bo and Jared's NHL success hinges on them having Brandon (frank)ing Sutter around to show them the ropes I've been giving you faaaaaaar too much credit.
- golfingsince

Bo and Jared, for all there strengths, have been defensive liabilities. I think Bo's workload has been unfair, to be honest, but he seems to be taking his trial by fire in stride. Both have tonnes to learn about d at this level, Hinges is a pretty strong word but Sutter is the best defensive center we have. Makes sense he can show them some things and practicing with/against him will make them better.

Cole Cassels will be fine will probably be nothing more than a 3rd line energy player in the mold of hansen or burrows type. He had a serious injury and couldnt train all summer and hes 20 years old. Shink had a poor first year in the AHL too. See what Cassels does next season plus I dont know how poor his defense has been in utica I thought he was just having trouble putting the puck in the net.
- mauryballstein

Honestly, I've only seen stats and they aren't pretty.

Wasn't McCann considered a two way center with skill? Let him learn and grow. Cassels was a third or fourth round pick, so no surprise he's struggling. At the same time, let's see what a coupe of AHL years do for him.
- bazz

Yeah McCann had kind of similar projections to Bo both two way guys. Cassels was more known as a shut down guy I think until he broke out after he was drafted and started to put up points.

McCann???

WTF bro?
- golfingsince

Honestly, I've only seen stats and they aren't pretty.
- neem55

With surgery to his abs he wouldnt have been able to do any physical activity. Even in a recent interview I think JB said he didnt expect anything from him until after the holidays.

Cole Cassels will be fine will probably be nothing more than a 3rd line energy player in the mold of hansen or burrows type. He had a serious injury and couldnt train all summer and hes 20 years old. Shink had a poor first year in the AHL too. See what Cassels does next season plus I dont know how poor his defense has been in utica I thought he was just having trouble putting the puck in the net.
- mauryballstein

Also 90 percent of the people on this board were writing off Gaunce as a bust until this past camp. Now he's considered a viable player. I know Gaunce was a first rounder, so more was expected, but he was considered the next Libor Polasek on here.

Cole Cassels will be fine will probably be nothing more than a 3rd line energy player in the mold of hansen or burrows type. He had a serious injury and couldnt train all summer and hes 20 years old. Shink had a poor first year in the AHL too. See what Cassels does next season plus I dont know how poor his defense has been in utica I thought he was just having trouble putting the puck in the net.
- mauryballstein

I'm certainly not saying Cassels is a bust, he's one of many Canucks prospects that have a lot to learn about playing at this level. This is all I've been saying. Defense at the A and NHL levels are much more detail oriented than Junior and much more demanding physically.

Bo and Jared, for all there strengths, have been defensive liabilities. I think Bo's workload has been unfair, to be honest, but he seems to be taking his trial by fire in stride. Both have tonnes to learn about d at this level, Hinges is a pretty strong word but Sutter is the best defensive center we have. Makes sense he can show them some things and practicing with/against him will make them better.
- neem55

I seen Hank as a liability too at times this year . Remember the overtime change the other night.

Players are going to screw up and the are progressing. As bad as our D and certain forwards we have only given up more than three goals once this month ( I think) .

I'm certainly not saying Cassels is a bust, he's one of many Canucks prospects that have a lot to learn about playing at this level. This is all I've been saying. Defense at the A and NHL levels are much more detail oriented than Junior and much more demanding physically.
- neem55

We just Cassels to grow to 6'4 and about 220 and he will be an excellent 3rd line shut down center

I seen Hank as a liability too at times this year . Remember the overtime change the other night.

Players are going to screw up and the are progressing. As bad as our D and certain forwards we have only given up more than two goals once this month ( I think) .
- VANTEL

markstrom has being playing lights out, the team is playing much better as a whole (welcome back BO! :~)). I agree theyre going to screw up and I think Hank is a liability (mostly due to waning footspeed). Sutter is the best we have IMO, the boys will learn from him and we are a far better team with him playing 18 minutes a night.

I'd love to see Bo move up to the first line with Danny, Sutter on the second line. Bo deserves a shot, I think he's put in the dirty work this year.

We just Cassels to grow to 6'4 and about 220 and he will be an excellent 3rd line shut down center
- mauryballstein

Yeah, that would be ideal

markstrom has being playing lights out, the team is playing much better as a whole (welcome back BO! :~)). I agree theyre going to screw up and I think Hank is a liability (mostly due to waning footspeed). Sutter is the best we have IMO, the boys will learn from him and we are a far better team with him playing 18 minutes a night.

I'd love to see Bo move up to the first line with Danny, Sutter on the second line. Bo deserves a shot, I think he's put in the dirty work this year.
- neem55

McCann's skill set is more in line with a top line C. Also, Bo takes about a 3rd of defensive zone draws so you don't really want Danny starting there all the time.

Also 90 percent of the people on this board were writing off Gaunce as a bust until this past camp. Now he's considered a viable player. I know Gaunce was a first rounder, so more was expected, but he was considered the next Libor Polasek on here.
- bazz

I think he is viewed as a bottom 6 . I was one of those people and I have changed my mind but he still hasn't made the team and there is no guarantee that he makes it next year either

McCann's skill set is more in line with a top line C. Also, Bo takes about a 3rd of defensive zone draws so you don't really want Danny starting there all the time.
- golfingsince

if he plays first line, he takes more o starts. Sutter fills the void taking Bo's spot. McCann hasn't earned 1st line ice IMO, I'm happy with how he has been deployed. Bo can be pretty good netfront guy, which is usually what you need with Sedin's.

I think he is viewed as a bottom 6 . I was one of those people and I have changed my mind but he still hasn't made the team and there is no guarantee that he makes it next year either
- VANTEL

me either. He's a 3rd/4th line guy. But I could see him being a pretty useful one as he has the size to be effective defensively.

me either. He's a 3rd/4th line guy. But I could see him being a pretty useful one as he has the size to be effective defensively.
- neem55

The thing that hurts Gaunce is they just brought in Etem. That was suppose to be his spot

The thing that hurts Gaunce is they just brought in Etem. That was suppose to be his spot
- VANTEL

I wouldn't mind seeing him in Prust's or Cracknell's spot

I wouldn't mind seeing him in Prust's or Cracknell's spot
- neem55

Not sure if the want him as a 4 th liner. He may have to wait for the twins to retire or be moved.