No, trade demands don't equal diva, but sitting out (and getting suspended) will damage his rep.
- dbot

Trade demands at his age and service do hurt his rep. I would not want him.

Austin Matthews didn't go the college route because he didn't finish the necessary courses to be eligible. He fell really far behind living in detroit playing the USHL route.

He would have to do a crazy work load in the summer to become eligible.

And yes the facilities depend on schools

I played NCAA division 1. and the facilities compared the CHL are night and day for some teams.
Teams like the London knights and other popular teams have great facilities others have garbage facilities depending on the wealth of the owners and the city.

The thing about canadian university facilities is they don't offer scholarships so the gyms would be pretty standard. NCAA gyms have a minimum standard to be ruled a division 1 school.
- classic321

That's a good point on the min standard, didn't know that. I think the Austin Matthews route is also not for those who aren't already touted as top draftpicks.

Trade demands at his age and service do hurt his rep. I would not want him.
- bazz

It's the new NHL apparently

Brendan Lemieux
Kerby Rychel
Jonathan Drouin

Prospects asking for trades.

Austin Matthews didn't go the college route because he didn't finish the necessary courses to be eligible. He fell really far behind living in detroit playing the USHL route.

He would have to do a crazy work load in the summer to become eligible.

And yes the facilities depend on schools

I played NCAA division 1. and the facilities compared the CHL are night and day for some teams.
Teams like the London knights and other popular teams have great facilities others have garbage facilities depending on the wealth of the owners and the city.

The thing about canadian university facilities is they don't offer scholarships so the gyms would be pretty standard. NCAA gyms have a minimum standard to be ruled a division 1 school.
- classic321

NCAA also has more stringent rules about practising/workouts and educational balance than the CHL does. Also, CHL players get a very tiny stipend ($120) a week for spending money and are only subject to billet family rules and curfews. There's a huge difference in going away to college where your scholarship might be in jeopardy if you screw up where as in the CHL it's covered up unless it's something major that gets into the news.

Trade demands at his age and service do hurt his rep. I would not want him.
- bazz

you know who else has a pretty bad rep? Pat Kane. Josh Ho-sang. These franchises needs to nut up and realize that even the players with bad attitudes can play and win, stop making it a fraternity. it's about building the best team, something the Canucks have never been very good at(but their best ever player had a poop attitude too). The Detroit model seems to straighten guys like Drouin out, I wonder what goes on in Tampa that they've had 2 guys want out. I'd love to have Drouin on our team, I'm hoping his trade value takes a hit

It's the new NHL apparently

Brendan Lemieux
Kerby Rychel
Jonathan Drouin

Prospects asking for trades.
- classic321

The kids want to play. In Rychel's case, he's got a solid AHL resume. I don't know what CLb is thinking there.

Edit: the first I've heard of Lemiuex, I'd be into him on our roster!

Don't worry we'll take it out on PKer.
- A_SteamingLombardi

that'll teach him

First of all, the CIS does offer athletic scholarships now although they often aren't as much as NCAA and players do have to meet an academic standard. The booster clubs at canadian schools however don't face the same issues as those at US schools. They can donate to players living expenses if they so choose.

Also, I had two friends that had pretty good scholarships to Yale. The first one received one for Harvard the day he accepted Yale, which is where he really wanted to go. Although one of them ended up briefly playing in the NHL and making pretty decent money playing in Europe, the appeal to both was the education.

The older brother made a hell of a lot more money with that degree than most NHL'ers make.

you know who else has a pretty bad rep? Pat Kane. Josh Ho-sang. These franchises needs to nut up and realize that even the players with bad attitudes can play and win, stop making it a fraternity. it's about building the best team, something the Canucks have never been very good at(but their best ever player had a poop attitude too). The Detroit model seems to straighten guys like Drouin out, I wonder what goes on in Tampa that they've had 2 guys want out. I'd love to have Drouin on our team, I'm hoping his trade value takes a hit
- neem55

Or... players with bad attitudes better realize that playing pro is a privilege, and not a right and shut their mouths and play their best until their ELC is done and they've got the stats to back up their demands. There's always 1000's of players just waiting to take their spot if they're too wrapped up in their own little world of thinking they're all that to notice it being taken away from them.

Or... players with bad attitudes better realize that playing pro is a privilege, and not a right and shut their mouths and play their best until their ELC is done and they've got the stats to back up their demands. There's always 1000's of players just waiting to take their spot if they're too wrapped up in their own little world of thinking they're all that to notice it being taken away from them.
- DariusKnight

I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying skill ought to trump any of the worries about Drouin. If he's better than the other 1000 wanting the job then he should get it. Pavel had a pretty bad attitude, so did Gretzky (depending on who you ask). Were I an NHL GM in need of top-6 talent I would trade for Drouin, bottom line. Playing pro is a privilege, no doubt about it, but only so many guys are actually that good.

I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying skill ought to trump any of the worries about Drouin. If he's better than the other 1000 wanting the job then he should get it. Pavel had a pretty bad attitude, so did Gretzky (depending on who you ask). Were I an NHL GM in need of top-6 talent I would trade for Drouin, bottom line. Playing pro is a privilege, no doubt about it, but only so many guys are actually that good.
- neem55

Pavel at least showed up for a few years. Kane is a prck off the ice, but shows up. Ho-Sang got what he deserves and will hopefully learn something. It would be great if Yzerman just lets Drouin rot. Tell teams he has no intention of trading him at this point.

NOT EVEN CLOSE
- classic321

For every season a player plays in the WHL, they receive a full year guaranteed Scholarship, including tuition, textbooks and compulsory fees, to a post-secondary institution of their choice. For example, players graduating from a four-year WHL career are eligible to receive four years of scholarship funding. The WHL Scholarship, combined with additional financial assistance from Universities in Western Canada, makes the WHL – Canada West Universities joint scholarship equivalent to any other offer available in North America today....research before speak

I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying skill ought to trump any of the worries about Drouin. If he's better than the other 1000 wanting the job then he should get it. Pavel had a pretty bad attitude, so did Gretzky (depending on who you ask). Were I an NHL GM in need of top-6 talent I would trade for Drouin, bottom line. Playing pro is a privilege, no doubt about it, but only so many guys are actually that good.
- neem55

The question isn't, does he have talent, the question is can he get out of his own way and utilize that talent to the fullest extent and be a contributing member to the team. You can have all the talent in the world, but if you're too wrapped up thinking that because you have all this talent and accolades in junior/NCAA/Europe or wherever then all the talent in the world isn't going to amount to a hill of beans. Again, if I was an NHL GM, I wouldn't trade any assets for Drouin, I'd wait until TB is willing to do what Benning did and trade a pick with Drouin for an expiring contract just to get rid of him altogether and if he doesn't work out, then all you've wasted was a player you weren't going to sign anyways and a pick that likely won't pan out anyways.

Pavel at least showed up for a few years. Kane is a prck off the ice, but shows up. Ho-Sang got what he deserves and will hopefully learn something. It would be great if Yzerman just lets Drouin rot. Tell teams he has no intention of trading him at this point.
- bazz

This+

It's the new NHL apparently

Brendan Lemieux
Kerby Rychel
Jonathan Drouin

Prospects asking for trades.
- classic321

For every season a player plays in the WHL, they receive a full year guaranteed Scholarship, including tuition, textbooks and compulsory fees, to a post-secondary institution of their choice. For example, players graduating from a four-year WHL career are eligible to receive four years of scholarship funding. The WHL Scholarship, combined with additional financial assistance from Universities in Western Canada, makes the WHL – Canada West Universities joint scholarship equivalent to any other offer available in North America today....research before speak
- Bullfrog77

If I am a GM I get one and a half years of Drouin before I have to sign a new contract. From what I have seen so far I would be thinking ROR or Ryan Johansen type negotiations. I think I would just say no thanks


If Canucks did throw big money at Stamkos where does he fit in. I don't think he would be a good fit with the twins. He would seem to have best chemistry with Bo who would need to be moved to wing. I see SS only working if the Twins are on the way out.

you know who else has a pretty bad rep? Pat Kane. Josh Ho-sang. These franchises needs to nut up and realize that even the players with bad attitudes can play and win, stop making it a fraternity. it's about building the best team, something the Canucks have never been very good at(but their best ever player had a poop attitude too). The Detroit model seems to straighten guys like Drouin out, I wonder what goes on in Tampa that they've had 2 guys want out. I'd love to have Drouin on our team, I'm hoping his trade value takes a hit
- neem55

Detroit model is based on over cooking you're prospects in the minors for three + years. Apparently Drouin thinks 7 games is far too much.

For every season a player plays in the WHL, they receive a full year guaranteed Scholarship, including tuition, textbooks and compulsory fees, to a post-secondary institution of their choice. For example, players graduating from a four-year WHL career are eligible to receive four years of scholarship funding. The WHL Scholarship, combined with additional financial assistance from Universities in Western Canada, makes the WHL – Canada West Universities joint scholarship equivalent to any other offer available in North America today....research before speak
- Bullfrog77

Except the fact that tuition to an Ivy league school is like $50KUSD/year

- pker2theend

That trade is starting to look like a steal

- pker2theend

Just watch your step today.

If I am a GM I get one and a half years of Drouin before I have to sign a new contract. From what I have seen so far I would be thinking ROR or Ryan Johansen type negotiations. I think I would just say no thanks


If Canucks did throw big money at Stamkos where does he fit in. I don't think he would be a good fit with the twins. He would seem to have best chemistry with Bo who would need to be moved to wing. I see SS only working if the Twins are on the way out.
- VANTEL

He'd fit in Lucic spot

- pker2theend

Point made. But did he ask for a trade or just tell Burke he had no intention of re-signing?

you know who else has a pretty bad rep? Pat Kane. Josh Ho-sang. These franchises needs to nut up and realize that even the players with bad attitudes can play and win, stop making it a fraternity. it's about building the best team, something the Canucks have never been very good at(but their best ever player had a poop attitude too). The Detroit model seems to straighten guys like Drouin out, I wonder what goes on in Tampa that they've had 2 guys want out. I'd love to have Drouin on our team, I'm hoping his trade value takes a hit
- neem55

I would too, but only if teams bow out over this and hurt his trade value. Vrbata at 50%and a 7th

Point made. But did he ask for a trade or just tell Burke he had no intention of re-signing?
- bazz

Either way he didn't want to be on the Flames.