i'll take the latter please Alec, but I don't see why we can't do both.
- neem55

Lucic will probably resign in LA

With Drouin none of us have the facts. If he was disrespected by his coach management I would also ask for a trade. The lightning have had months to put a deal together and have done nothing so he might just be done with it. All situations are different so really its tough to comment on but I could see myself doing the same thing depending on what happened.
- mauryballstein

Maybe, and if that's the case then it still makes him look bad that he's not even willing to play even just to showcase himself so that some team is willing to pay whatever TB wants for him. Just not quite as bad, but I highly doubt this is the case, my guess is that SY and JC are more worried about Stamkos and either getting him signed long-term or trade him for as many assets as they can manage since they'd instantly be in a rebuild situation.

With Drouin none of us have the facts. If he was disrespected by his coach management I would also ask for a trade. The lightning have had months to put a deal together and have done nothing so he might just be done with it. All situations are different so really its tough to comment on but I could see myself doing the same thing depending on what happened.
- mauryballstein

I agree with this, it's tough to say what went on here.

Send them Hamhuis and a 2nd, take back Carle. That's the kind of deal.
- golfingsince

Exactly. This is the kind of kid that can really learn from the Sedins.

Lucic will probably resign in LA
- VANTEL

that's my thought too, he's been a great fit there and I think they ship out Gabbo to keep him in the offseason.

Your first reaction is Prima Donna, self centre, cancer etc... He is Daniels replacement in two years. With probably 10-12 years of being productive. Again I look at this as a Baertschi type deal with a big upside.

If he is a bad dude you can bury him. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
- VANTEL

Spot on. To me it seems like medium risk high reward. That said, I'm not moving any core future pieces for him.

Spot on. To me it seems like medium risk high reward. That said, I'm not moving any core future pieces for him.
- CubanBuffet

No, for sure. But they could use help in their top 6 right now Vrbata... maybe they even need a "character" guy

edit: I'm willing to put Prust in a package for anything at this point.

Send them Hamhuis and a 2nd, take back Carle. That's the kind of deal.
- golfingsince

No....you don't want this head case in you're room . Drop the crap vets sink to bottom and draft a kid that wants to play for you.

No....you don't want this head case in you're room . Drop the crap vets sink to bottom and draft a kid that wants to play for you.
- Bullfrog77

I think the issue at hand is that he does really want to play, for anyone. T-bay doesn't want that, so he wants out.

No....you don't want this head case in you're room . Drop the crap vets sink to bottom and draft a kid that wants to play for you.
- Bullfrog77

And how exactly do you know a draft pick wants to play for you?

For all we know Demko and Boeser could finish their 4 years and say FU, here is some crappy compensatory pick.

And so asked for a trade as both his stats and points warrant NHL icetime on the other 29 teams in the league.
- neem55

Hasn't proved a thing. 6 goals in 90 games....yeah put up or shut up. He ain't putting up and he's not shutting up either.

I don't care about his feelings. But just because he's not mature now doesn't mean he won't be. People mature at different rates. But now that his character's in question you might be able to get him on the cheap. If you can, go for it, or at least consider it. If you can't, then it's not worth the risk.
- CubanBuffet

I would give him a chance if its not going to cost us Bo Jared or Jake. JB would have to get creative. Drouin is not making a case for himself right now is all. Show up do your job. Fire your agent. I think his agent is the same agent that told Pavlec to do the same think when getting sent down to the ahl.

Lucic will probably resign in LA
- VANTEL

Don't think LA can pony up the 7 mil to get er done.

Lucic will probably resign in LA
- VANTEL

They can't afford him.

They can't afford him.
- thundachunk

Gabbo, gabbo, gabbo!

Edit: As in Gabbo will be moved out in the offseason

And how exactly do you know a draft pick wants to play for you?

For all we know Demko and Boeser could finish their 4 years and say FU, here is some crappy compensatory pick.
- classic321

Thatd be a kick to the rebuild

They can't afford him.
- thundachunk

We'll see. A lot of the insiders are saying they are trying to work out a deal already.

And how exactly do you know a draft pick wants to play for you?

For all we know Demko and Boeser could finish their 4 years and say FU, here is some crappy compensatory pick.
- classic321

Sure they can...but we already know that Drouin doesn't want to play for TBay. And he doesn't want to play for Syracuse now don't we? Do you think it's a good idea to reward this spoiled lil female dog for what he's doing? Ohhh boo hoo I'm only making 90k a year in the minors....(frank) that guy, if I'm yzerman I don't trade that (frank)er till he's a week away from ufa status. Enjoy pumping gas and payin your agents wages on that !

Hasn't proved a thing. 6 goals in 90 games....yeah put up or shut up. He ain't putting up and he's not shutting up either.
- Bullfrog77

it's 40 points in 90 games, don't be a pontz and skew stats to look like he's underachieving. He also has excellent puck management at this level and has shown to be able to play on the powerplay.

Thatd be a kick to the rebuild
- phyllee

It's a risk you take with the NCAA

Players can work the system

it's 40 points in 90 games, don't be a pontz and skew stats to look like he's underachieving. He also has excellent puck management at this level and has shown to be able to play on the powerplay.
- neem55

Ohh yeah pick up a bunch of second assists on a team that led the league in scoring an went to the cup. Give yzerman some (frank)ing credit. I think he understands what it takes to be a hockey player

Ohh yeah pick up a bunch of second assists on a team that led the league in scoring an went to the cup. Give yzerman some (frank)ing credit. I think he understands what it takes to be a hockey player
- Bullfrog77

Good one a bunch of second assists... you're a clever one. I agree Yzerman does know what it takes... HE DRAFTED HIM.

Ohh yeah pick up a bunch of second assists on a team that led the league in scoring an went to the cup. Give yzerman some (frank)ing credit. I think he understands what it takes to be a hockey player
- Bullfrog77

Still if the right deal is there for him I do it. Doing some research on his agent and he is not the smartest dude and this has happened before. This could be the product of JD being naive. I would give him a pass if he fired his agent. Mistakes happen. He isn't doing himself any favours right now though.

Still if the right deal is there for him I do it. Doing some research on his agent and he is not the smartest dude and this has happened before. This could be the product of JD being naive. I would give him a pass if he fired his agent. Mistakes happen. He isn't doing himself any favours right now though.
- thundachunk

Doug Maclean from Sportsnet said JD's agent Allan Walsh pulled this same garbage with another prospect back when was Columbus's GM.

He didn't say who it was though.

I would give him a chance if its not going to cost us Bo Jared or Jake. JB would have to get creative. Drouin is not making a case for himself right now is all. Show up do your job. Fire your agent. I think his agent is the same agent that told Pavlec to do the same think when getting sent down to the ahl.
- thundachunk

If he was making a positive case for himself then he would be out of our price range.