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Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
Wasn't McCarron the year before Scherbak?
- ehabs9


Yes. http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00006929.html
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
Timmins could be a bigger problem than MB.
- God_then_kovy

Well he did get Subban and Price
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
6 months for Julssen and 18 months for Scherbak - that is not 3 years ago.

McCarron is less than 3 years (2.5 years).

So let's totally not exaggerate.

- Mashadar


What about Collberg and Thrower? They turned out to be dynamite
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:46 PM ET
I'm talking about who he drafted since he arrived. Why are you cherry picking only the first round picks?
- Pecafan Fan


I forgot.

In the last 3 years, every NHL team has at least 1 impact player from round 2+.

My mistake.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
What about Collberg and Thrower? They turned out to be dunamite
- ehabs9


the 2012 was terrible from A to Z
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
What about Collberg and Thrower? They turned out to be dunamite
- ehabs9


He was GM for 3 weeks and every media and fan were sucking on his cock because a scouting team he had absolutely no influence on for the last year apparently had a good draft.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
I forgot.

In the last 3 years, every NHL team has at least 1 impact player from round 2+.

My mistake.

- Mashadar


I'd suspect a fair amount do
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
Wasn't McCarron the year before Scherbak?
- ehabs9

Galchenyuk-McCarron-Scherbak-Juulsen
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
I forgot.

In the last 3 years, every NHL team has at least 1 impact player from round 2+.

My mistake.

- Mashadar

in all fairness though, while I don't disagree with you, if you're gonna complain that trades are hard and say you're building through the draft then you can't just build through the 1st round
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 21 @ 1:48 PM ET
I forgot.

In the last 3 years, every NHL team has at least 1 impact player from round 2+.

My mistake.

- Mashadar


you related to the guy or something?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'd suspect a fair amount do
- ehabs9



And you said others made you look bad.

Doing fine on your own son.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:48 PM ET
He was GM for 3 weeks and every media and fan were sucking on his cock because a scouting team he had absolutely no influence on for the last year apparently had a good draft.
- _nay_

the Year of Seven Firsts
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:48 PM ET
you related to the guy or something?
- DoubleDown


No.

Just saying people are being fairly unrealistic.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 21 @ 1:49 PM ET
He was GM for 3 weeks and every media and fan were sucking on his cock because a scouting team he had absolutely no influence on for the last year apparently had a good draft.
- _nay_


was that the year we drafter 5 first rounders?
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:49 PM ET
the Year of Seven Firsts
- dt99999


I admit I was on that bandwagon. In hindsight it was really cute.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
So, when Bergevin was hired, he thought to himself that he would rebuild this team through the draft, Blackhawks style. A guy named Carey Price screwed his plan and he had to act like a contender right away. Didn't get the chance to acquire high end talent through the draft after he got Galchenyuk.

How do you get out of that? It's not going to be an easy task, and as long as Price will put up the numbers, you'll have the same old same old, a team that's going around in circles, great regular season, gets knocked out of the playoffs in the second round and gets an horrible position to draft in the first round.


dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
I admit I was on that bandwagon. In hindsight it was really cute.
- _nay_



QP dragged us all into it... that little fella ought to be a cult leader.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
Est-ce qu'ils ont essayé de donner des médicament pour vaginite a Price?
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
was that the year we drafter 5 first rounders?
- DoubleDown


2012
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
was that the year we drafter 5 first rounders?
- DoubleDown


Yeah.


OMG JACOB DE LA ROSE 1ST ROUNDER!

OMG FUCALE 1ST ROUNDER!

OMG THROWER 1ST ROUNDER ON BUTTON'S MOCKDRAFT WHAT A RELIABLE GENTLEMAN!

OMG BOZON 1ST ROUNDER ON SOME RANDOM BLOG IN OCTOBER!
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
Yeah.


OMG JACOB DE LA ROSE 1ST ROUNDER!

OMG FUCALE 1ST ROUNDER!

OMG THROWER 1ST ROUNDER ON BUTTON'S MOCKDRAFT WHAT A RELIABLE GENTLEMAN!

OMG BOZON 1ST ROUNDER ON SOME RANDOM BLOG IN OCTOBER!

- _nay_



we were so young and naive
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
2012
Alex Galchenyuk
Sebastian Collberg
Tim Bozon
Dalton Thrower
Brady Vail
Charles Hudon
Erik Nystrom

2013
Michael McCarron
Sven Andrighetto
Jacob De La Rose
Zachary Fucale
Artturi Lehkonen
Connor Crisp
Martin Reway


Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:53 PM ET
in all fairness though, while I don't disagree with you, if you're gonna complain that trades are hard and say you're building through the draft then you can't just build through the 1st round
- dt99999



Don't disagree.

But to state that there are no decent players coming from drafts the last few years is also unrealistic. Very few players make it to the NHL in the first 2 years, and if you are with certain teams (ie: Red Wings, for example), you can usually expect longer development cycles.

Not comparing the Habs to the Wings, just saying just because a player gets drafted does not mean he should be in the NHL in 6 months, and certainly, without development time.

Everyone poop all over the Habs when they rushed guys to the NHL. Now they are keeping guys in the CHL, AHL, or Europe longer and now that means all picks are suddenly poop.

Unbelievable.

stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:53 PM ET
2012
Alex Galchenyuk
Sebastian Collberg
Tim Bozon
Dalton Thrower
Brady Vail
Charles Hudon
Erik Nystrom

2013
Michael McCarron
Sven Andrighetto
Jacob De La Rose
Zachary Fucale
Artturi Lehkonen
Connor Crisp
Martin Reway

- Pecafan Fan


Lehkonen is putting up some good numbers in the SHL

just saying
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 1:54 PM ET
I forgot.

In the last 3 years, every NHL team has at least 1 impact player from round 2+.

My mistake.

- Mashadar


That would be a pretty cool exercise to make, actually. Look at how many teams managed to pick top 6 players or top4 dmen in those years.
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