Ya well he's an idiot. He was a journeyman defenceman, I'm sure he didn't have a great IQ to begin with, then his brain cells took a steady dive while he got knocked around for 15 some odd years
- ehabs9

You really believe all that? Any of it?

Just under 8 1/2 hours 'til L'antichambre... let's see if they make more asinine and out of context comments than those on this board by the end of the afternoon.

Gonna be awesome to see.
- Mashadar

What are you Bergevin's mistress?

well on that point, like we said yesterday, that ship has sailed for this season. there are no trades to make really. the heavy lifting has to be done in the summer. i would imagine that this coming offseason we see a significant shakeup, because assuming they bottom out completely, you have to assume he will be on notice...
- DoubleDown

Sellers at the deadline. Get picks and prospects for at the very least Gilbert, Weise and Byron.

How do you it seriously, I can't tolerate this mediocrity.
- Fredo

I can deal with it now that I'm playing hockey. I always wanted to play when I was younger and loved the Leafs. (So now that the Leafs suck, I get my hockey fix by playing) They were decent back then with Sundin. Sundin was all class and I was a proud Leafs fan.

I lowered my standards. Now the Leafs just have to "try" and I'm happy

And the Komagod of course

poop or get off the pot. Willing to take all the blame is good I respect that. Except that this team is slumping for 2 months now and he has made AHL trades and done nothing to improve the NHL roster.

And nothing to improve the top 6 for 4 years.
- blarneylad

At least he's responsible with the cap

I can deal with it now that I'm playing hockey. I always wanted to play when I was younger and loved the Leafs. (So now that the Leafs suck, I get my hockey fix by playing) They were decent back then with Sundin. Sundin was all class and I was a proud Leafs fan.

I lowered my standards. Now the Leafs just have to "try" and I'm happy

And the Komagod of course
- twiztedmike

So I should cheer for "Rocket" Byron?

You really believe all that? Any of it?
- obie

Well I was ranting.

But I remember reading the average IQ of hockey players was around 90, I'm sure it's changed now, but probably fairly accurate for his time. And impact to the head kills brain cells. So most of it checks out, ya

So I should cheer for "Rocket" Byron?
- Fredo

Haha I think Komarov is a class above Byron but sure!! (he can score on breakaways)

Bergevin on the John Scott Trade

"I can't really tell you why I had to make that trade"

I think you just did
- ehabs9

what is he a (frank)ing mobster observing omerta?

Well I was ranting.

But I remember reading the average IQ of hockey players was around 90, I'm sure it's changed now, but probably fairly accurate for his time. And impact to the head kills brain cells. So most of it checks out, ya
- ehabs9

Ya but he is surrounded by a lot of good hockey guys.

It isn't lack of IQ. It is the fact he isn't willing to put it out there. I'm guessing all his money is tied up in GICs because he has no sack

Ya but he is surrounded by a lot of good hockey guys.

It isn't lack of IQ. It is the fact he isn't willing to put it out there. I'm guessing all his money is tied up in GICs because he has no sack
- blarneylad

You really don't want a GM under pressure making trades.

See every trade Nonis and Burke made

Ya but he is surrounded by a lot of good hockey guys.

It isn't lack of IQ. It is the fact he isn't willing to put it out there. I'm guessing all his money is tied up in GICs because he has no sack
- blarneylad

Ya I'm not sure what the brain trust he put together is doing. You've got to think they aren't all proponents of the 4 years of nothing plan.

Well I was ranting.

But I remember reading the average IQ of hockey players was around 90, I'm sure it's changed now, but probably fairly accurate for his time. And impact to the head kills brain cells. So most of it checks out, ya
- ehabs9

So many NHL gms are former players and they do just fine... maybe this fan base is too passionate and that's great when they're winning but the flip side is incredible

You really don't want a GM under pressure making trades.

See every trade Nonis and Burke made
- twiztedmike

You end up with Gomez.

You really don't want a GM under pressure making trades.

See every trade Nonis and Burke made
- twiztedmike

He wasn't under pressure the last 3 years. Now he is because he has been far to passive.

what is he a (frank)ing mobster observing omerta?
- DoubleDown

yeah i was kind of thinking the same thing.

You end up with Gomez.
- Mashadar

Pacioretty, Subban and a 1st

for

Stamkos and Drouin

So many NHL gms are former players and they do just fine... maybe this fan base is too passionate and that's great when they're winning but the flip side is incredible
- obie

This slump is historic.

Do you think the fans should be happy about that?

You really don't want a GM under pressure making trades.

See every trade Nonis and Burke made
- twiztedmike

That's a solid point. But he should have been making moves long before the pressure showed up

He wasn't under pressure the last 3 years. Now he is because he has been far to passive.
- blarneylad

He made good deadline moves (acquire Vanek, Petry)

Pacioretty, Subban and a 1st

for

Stamkos and Drouin
- TouenneTiiTree

No.

Pacioretty, Subban and a 1st

for

Stamkos and Drouin
- TouenneTiiTree

Do it BergevINCROYABLE

Pacioretty, Subban and a 1st

for

Stamkos and Drouin
- TouenneTiiTree

and Stamkos signs with TO this summer, brilliant

Sellers at the deadline. Get picks and prospects for at the very least Gilbert, Weise and Byron.
- blarneylad

And Markov. This might be a crazy idea, but next summer I'd seriously consider trading Carey price, assuming you would get a poop ton for him. If you look around the league, there are quite a few goalies that could come in and do a good enough job. Assuming you get a top line Centre and some other pieces, it would go a long way to helping the lack of goal scoring. Trading low rd picks for 3rd liners isn't going to make a difference.