Yamaha is supposed to be coming out with wireless home audio soon. I have been holding off on buying a new surround. Sonos is really good quality but I imagine Yamaha's will destroy it.
- thundachunk

We were referring to guitars

hows the weekend

Yeah I think Larrivee left North Van in the early 90's?

Wood choice is obviously the key but the cheap(er) Yamahas have a good formula that works. They really shouldn't sound that decent at that price point and agreed playability is very good. My GF's sister has a cheap Yamaha that sounds and plays better than my older Seagull model 6 and the wood has had a chance to age on the Seagull.

I bought my Larrivee around 2004 and fortunately was in tight with a local music shop owner that did a custom order with Larrivee for me. So after about a year of auditioning and going through a few Takamines and Taylors I decided on Larrivee and they built one with the wood/finish I chose with a few tweaks and electronics installed inside. Been very happy with it over the past ten years and as the wood ages the tone gets better and better.
- LordHumungous

I think that is correct. Back when I was still playing professionally.

3000 for an acoustic is serious. Thats like a top end PRS solidbody. You must be a serious player like me.

Loved the game, with Henrik out, you can really see that this team is based upon the method of speed, power and crash the net. That's the combo that usually is successful in the playoffs. Like Vantel, I see great things in our future, we're just a couple of high end players mostly on D away from being a team that no one wants to play in the playoffs.

I think that is correct. Back when I was still playing professionally.

3000 for an acoustic is serious. Thats like a top end PRS solidbody. You must be a serious player like me.
- SMBDragon

It's alot of cash for sure but man there really is no limit...Played some pretty impressive Martin's in the $10,000 range of course I could never afford that.

My Uncle left the family a mid 1950's (I think) Gibson J45 and man was that a sweet sound with the age of that wood as I'm sure you could appreciate.

I'm certainly nowhere near pro level like yourself but I can hold my own when it comes to being a basement player. I try to still play for 20min/day if I can. Started playing when I was 14 when obsessed with Eddie Van Halen electrics then eventually graduated to some decent acoustics. Mid 40's now so 30 years ain't bad but I spent about 7 years of that where I didn't play much.

I have jammed with pro's locally a few times but that's as close as I'll ever get to being a pro. but that's all good.

Loved the game, with Henrik out, you can really see that this team is based upon the method of speed, power and crash the net. That's the combo that usually is successful in the playoffs. Like Vantel, I see great things in our future, we're just a couple of high end players mostly on D away from being a team that no one wants to play in the playoffs.
- DariusKnight

our goaltenders and forwards are great.

Still with those changes without a new system for D and a tweaker coach we'd maybe win some in playoffs but still no serious cup threat. Those teams have sound defensive plans in place. The right coach would still pick us apart in those areas.....like hartley, coach Q, laviolette, sutter, 3 of which we've already witnessed.

It's alot of cash for sure but man there really is no limit...Played some pretty impressive Martin's in the $10,000 range of course I could never afford that.

My Uncle left the family a mid 1950's (I think) Gibson J45 and man was that a sweet sound with the age of that wood as I'm sure you could appreciate.

I'm certainly nowhere near pro level like yourself but I can hold my own when it comes to being a basement player. I try to still play for 20min/day if I can. Started playing when I was 14 when obsessed with Eddie Van Halen electrics then eventually graduated to some decent acoustics. Mid 40's now so 30 years ain't bad but I spent about 7 years of that where I didn't play much.

I have jammed with pro's locally a few times but that's as close as I'll ever get to being a pro. but that's all good.
- LordHumungous

10K....thats for top pros for sure. Or the wealthy.

Im actualloy not familiar with the Gibson J45.

Ya its not easay coming back to it after a long layoff. I had the same, but 12 years. It was called B I T C H lol.

If you want to play sometimes let me know. Im in port moody not sure where you are

you are just being an idiot and I'm not wasting time debating with a moron.
- Bullfrog77

That post was kind of facetious.
Sorry about that, I'll bet that you're kinda tired of people posting the same droll over and over again.
I will try to refrain from engaging in such a predictably low brow manner in the future.

I would like to know whom you think that we can replace Edler with, someone with a more positive impact on the game and a similer cap hit. UFA or trade proposal, lets get this party started.

10K....thats for top pros for sure. Or the wealthy.

Im actualloy not familiar with the Gibson J45.

Ya its not easay coming back to it after a long layoff. I had the same, but 12 years. It was called B I T C H lol.

If you want to play sometimes let me know. Im in port moody not sure where you are
- SMBDragon

lol...I hear that.

Well I'm in Red Deer Alberta so it's a bit of a commute but I'm sure we could make it work...lol...

I don't like to cast stones...but you really are clueless.
- Bullfrog77

yes, clearly you are just an objective observer No one would ever accuse you of casting stones

That post was kind of facetious.
Sorry about that, I'll bet that you're kinda tired of people posting the same droll over and over again.
I will try to refrain from engaging in such a predictably low brow manner in the future.

I would like to know whom you think that we can replace Edler with, someone with a more positive impact on the game and a similer cap hit. UFA or trade proposal, lets get this party started.
- Pres.cup

We'll I thank you for that. My point was never about replacing him for similar value or cap hit. It's about flexibility and improving this team going forward. This team will not compete for a cup again while the twins and old core are still here. So why hold on to an asset like Edler ? (Can't believe I used the word asset and Edler in the same sentence). He has value no doubt, I believe he is far more valuable right now as a trade chip then a player. If you could turn him into Shea Theodore and a first round pick+ 4 mil in cap space can you not see the value in such a move considering the state the franchise is in right now? I don't see him as a good mentor...quite frankly he's always on the wrong side of the puck and positionaly he's a moron. I want a defensive warrior like willie Mitchell or hammer to mentor my young dmen. They may be slow but atleast they stay on the right side of the puck. Not sure if this is coming across right. But it's what I think is best for the team moving forward.

Yamaha are nice. I was looking at buying an ovation but at the time was more. Impressed with the cheaper Seagull/Godin
- VANTEL

I've got a seagull lI've it. It's the first guitar I ever received 15 years ago.

I had a nice 2500 Takamine as well and sold it cause I preferred the seagull

We'll I thank you for that. My point was never about replacing him for similar value or cap hit. It's about flexibility and improving this team going forward. This team will not compete for a cup again while the twins and old core are still here. So why hold on to an asset like Edler ? (Can't believe I used the word asset and Edler in the same sentence). He has value no doubt, I believe he is far more valuable right now as a trade chip then a player. If you could turn him into Shea Theodore and a first round pick+ 4 mil in cap space can you not see the value in such a move considering the state the franchise is in right now? I don't see him as a good mentor...quite frankly he's always on the wrong side of the puck and positionaly he's a moron. I want a defensive warrior like willie Mitchell or hammer to mentor my young dmen. They may be slow but atleast they stay on the right side of the puck. Not sure if this is coming across right. But it's what I think is best for the team moving forward.
- Bullfrog77

If we did this, Tanev becomes the 1d and Sbisa the 2. I have no illusions of being a contending team, but this hurts the development of both of those players. A top prospect and a first rounder is make-believe, but if somehow that's what we could get I would take it. Anahiem might not do this trade but a team desperate for d like pittsburgh might. Problem is almost any team would want to give salary back, as contending teams are usually up against the cap. Hutton, tanev and Sbisa need to continue to develop, you cant just throw those guys into big roles and expect them to develop, in fact this is what often brakes young guys (see jake gardiner, justin shultz). Edler may not be the ideal mentor, maybe not even close, but he's the best we got on a weak d-corps.

If we did this, Tanev becomes the 1d and Sbisa the 2. I have no illusions of being a contending team, but this hurts the development of both of those players. A top prospect and a first rounder is make-believe, but if somehow that's what we could get I would take it. Anahiem might not do this trade but a team desperate for d like pittsburgh might. Problem is almost any team would want to give salary back, as contending teams are usually up against the cap. Hutton, tanev and Sbisa need to continue to develop, you cant just throw those guys into big roles and expect them to develop, in fact this is what often brakes young guys (see jake gardiner, justin shultz). Edler may not be the ideal mentor, maybe not even close, but he's the best we got on a weak d-corps.
- neem55

Tanev is the best d we have already...as far as taking salary back... That's the whole point to the plan. How much cap space have we been projecting for next year? 20 mil or so? That's without dropping Edlers 5 or millers 6. You can afford a bad contract or two I'm sure.and like I said I much prefer my prospects learning the position from some crusty ol vets like hammer. And tanev for that matter.

Tanev is the best d we have already...as far as taking salary back... That's the whole point to the plan. How much cap space have we been projecting for next year? 20 mil or so? That's without dropping Edlers 5 or millers 6. You can afford a bad contract or two I'm sure.and like I said I much prefer my prospects learning the position from some crusty ol vets like hammer. And tanev for that matter.
- Bullfrog77

Tanev has never had more than 20pts in any season.... don't think you can say he's our Best d-man. He's pretty one dimensional.

Tanev is the best d we have already...as far as taking salary back... That's the whole point to the plan. How much cap space have we been projecting for next year? 20 mil or so? That's without dropping Edlers 5 or millers 6. You can afford a bad contract or two I'm sure.and like I said I much prefer my prospects learning the position from some crusty ol vets like hammer. And tanev for that matter.
- Bullfrog77

tanev already plays as much as edler, the point is sbisa would now play 25 minutes which he is not prepared to do, Hutton would be pushed into top 4 and I like the kid, but let's get real. and who else plays top 4 Bart? biega? come on man. hammer is out, so it's a moot point when we don't even know when he will be back.

Tanev has never had more than 20pts in any season.... don't think you can say he's our Best d-man. He's pretty one dimensional.
- Mungo

How many points you get....has nothing to do with how good a defenceman you are

tanev already plays as much as edler, the point is sbisa would now play 25 minutes which he is not prepared to do, Hutton would be pushed into top 4 and I like the kid, but let's get real. and who else plays top 4 Bart? biega? come on man. hammer is out, so it's a moot point when we don't even know when he will be back.
- neem55

Never said we have to keep them either. It's about balance....I don't want my dmen playing 30 mins a night. I'd want them pretty even 20-22 mins for all three pairs. Even minutes less stress on the players. A better product on the ice. Granted you would need a more disciplined team approach to defense. Forwards can't just blow the zone and wait at the other blue line.

How many points you get....has nothing to do with how many points you get
- Bullfrog77

that is either incredibly deep thinking..... or it's no thinking at all.

tell me what Tanev does well other than break out with the puck well and make a decent first pass.

he's not physical at all
his shot has to be one of the worst in the NHL
I see very little offensive creativity at all.
has trouble moving guys away from the front of our own net.

he's just a safe player.... I would hope for more from a top 4 guy personally.

Never said we have to keep them either. It's about balance....I don't want my dmen playing 30 mins a night. I'd want them pretty even 20-22 mins for all three pairs. Even minutes less stress on the players. A better product on the ice. Granted you would need a more disciplined team approach to defense. Forwards can't just blow the zone and wait at the other blue line.
- Bullfrog77

So tell me, which team in the NHL is deploying thier dmen in this way that is winning cups/making playoffs?

that is either incredibly deep thinking..... or it's no thinking at all.

tell me what Tanev does well other than break out with the puck well and make a decent first pass.

he's not physical at all
his shot has to be one of the worst in the NHL
I see very little offensive creativity at all.
has trouble moving guys away from the front of our own net.

he's just a safe player.... I would hope for more from a top 4 guy personally.
- Mungo

He's a shot-blocking expert, defensive d-man. Definitely lacks physicality and offensive instincts needed to be top-2. Like him as a shutdown 3-4 though

that is either incredibly deep thinking..... or it's no thinking at all.

tell me what Tanev does well other than break out with the puck well and make a decent first pass.

he's not physical at all
his shot has to be one of the worst in the NHL
I see very little offensive creativity at all.
has trouble moving guys away from the front of our own net.

he's just a safe player.... I would hope for more from a top 4 guy personally.
- Mungo

No he's not physical. It's my only complaint I have about him. If you have six defence man that make a great first pass or can skate the puck past the forecheck you've already neutered half the other teams offence. Tanev is almost always in the right position , rarely on the wrong side of the puck. He's not flashy or cool. But he is a excellent " defenseman".

that is either incredibly deep thinking..... or it's no thinking at all.

tell me what Tanev does well other than break out with the puck well and make a decent first pass.

he's not physical at all
his shot has to be one of the worst in the NHL
I see very little offensive creativity at all.
has trouble moving guys away from the front of our own net.

he's just a safe player.... I would hope for more from a top 4 guy personally.
- Mungo

Oh lol I see what happened I'll fix that. Musta got distracted with my baking when I typed it

So tell me, which team in the NHL is deploying thier dmen in this way that is winning cups/making playoffs?
- neem55

Aside from Drew doughty....the LA kings do this , but we are too proud " to sink and get a crack at a top end d man. So like I said. I'd try for balance. 6-8 good dmen. 3-4 older guys 3-4 young guys.

Aside from Drew doughty....the LA kings do this , but we are too proud " to sink and get a crack at a top end d man. So like I said. I'd try for balance. 6-8 good dmen. 3-4 older guys 3-4 young guys.
- Bullfrog77

If you have to qualify the statement with "other than player x" then the example is not very good.

Forget about dmen for awhile reported that Tampa has only offered Stamkos $8.5 million a year. Does that make anyone say hmm?