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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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It'll be nice to see the full lineup again (when Sutter, Henrik and Hammer are all back).
I still think we'll miss the playoffs, but not for a lack of trying. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Mungo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: VANCOUVER, BC Joined: 03.10.2014
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Oilers next game isn't until Feb 2nd. Zach needs to play games, he hasn't played nearly enough this year |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Imagine having Selanne and Bure together in their primes? |
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Read this a couple of times recently:
http://canucksarmy.com/20...rt-3-2014-draft-revisited
I'm wondering how folks feel about it? Personally, I've been mostly happy with the team, though the Garrison trade and moving out Clendening are major black marks that I think made the holes in defense, 'gaping'.
I thought the Miller signing was better than they gave credit for (I think as Carol mentioned previously, the thinking was that keeping Lack and Markstrom was going to be impossible long term), Dorsett is probably a character guy whose definitely gritty and only signed for 3 years and while Luca Sbisa has been bad, he hasn't been worse than what they have now, so probably best to grab whatever defenseman you can get...not sure if I agree that what we had on the farm was good enough to replace him.
In terms of trades...verdict is still out on the Sutter trade (at worst it's going to be wash but wish they still had Clendenning), but they won the Prust trade in hindsight and Baerstchi seems like he's going to be worth the 2nd. Like Etem as well, or as I call him Mayson Raymond 2.0.
I thought the draft is where you saw some of Bennings best decisions so far: Nylander might be better than Virtanen on paper, but Virtanen is playing now...if Nylander can't crack the Leafs today, then at least it wasn't a terrible selection. Picks 1 - 3 are looking like money.
One of the most revealing things I thought was the Kassian trade, since it shows the limitations of analytics. Everyone thought we got fleeced, because things like team chemistry, development of youth, work ethic, etc. are not things you can measure. Sometimes a greaty skilled player is a cancer in the lockeroom. Sometimes a guy who sucks in skill, works his ass off and makes others on the team do the same.
The team is somehow in the playoff hunt with almost every metric in the negative...injuries up the wazoo, all the while playing rookies and prospects and stocking the cupboards a bit. Gotta see that as a win.
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PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Down by the Sea, BC Joined: 06.27.2014
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Imagine having Selanne and Bure together in their primes? - golfingsince
With Larionov in his prime as their Centre. Marinate on that a lil |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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With Larionov in his prime as their Centre. Marinate on that a lil - PetrolSexual
Even Roenick was pretty dominant for a decade. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Read this a couple of times recently:
http://canucksarmy.com/20...rt-3-2014-draft-revisited
I'm wondering how folks feel about it? Personally, I've been mostly happy with the team, though the Garrison trade and moving out Clendening are major black marks that I think made the holes in defense, 'gaping'.
I thought the Miller signing was better than they gave credit for (I think as Carol mentioned previously, the thinking was that keeping Lack and Markstrom was going to be impossible long term), Dorsett is probably a character guy whose definitely gritty and only signed for 3 years and while Luca Sbisa has been bad, he hasn't been worse than what they have now, so probably best to grab whatever defenseman you can get...not sure if I agree that what we had on the farm was good enough to replace him.
In terms of trades...verdict is still out on the Sutter trade (at worst it's going to be wash but wish they still had Clendenning), but they won the Prust trade in hindsight and Baerstchi seems like he's going to be worth the 2nd. Like Etem as well, or as I call him Mayson Raymond 2.0.
I thought the draft is where you saw some of Bennings best decisions so far: Nylander might be better than Virtanen on paper, but Virtanen is playing now...if Nylander can't crack the Leafs today, then at least it wasn't a terrible selection. Picks 1 - 3 are looking like money.
One of the most revealing things I thought was the Kassian trade, since it shows the limitations of analytics. Everyone thought we got fleeced, because things like team chemistry, development of youth, work ethic, etc. are not things you can measure. Sometimes a greaty skilled player is a cancer in the lockeroom. Sometimes a guy who sucks in skill, works his ass off and makes others on the team do the same.
The team is somehow in the playoff hunt with almost every metric in the negative...injuries up the wazoo, all the while playing rookies and prospects and stocking the cupboards a bit. Gotta see that as a win. - Ronning4ever
Regarding Nylander, who's ultra-talented offensively, they're keeping him down in the AHL on purpose, it has nothing to do with whether he's good enough to play or not...because he probably is.
Still...I like the Virtanen pick, he's something the team needed badly. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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my God. What could have been.
Response to P sexual. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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Even Roenick was pretty dominant for a decade. - golfingsince
But JR was a goof. Remember when Hatcher broke his jaw. Today that hit would get you a lengthy suspension. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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But JR was a goof. Remember when Hatcher broke his jaw. Today that hit would get you a lengthy suspension. - bloatedmosquito
He still is a goof. But he carried the Hawks to the final offensively, along with Larmer. |
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Regarding Nylander, who's ultra-talented offensively, they're keeping him down in the AHL on purpose, it has nothing to do with whether he's good enough to play or not...because he probably is.
Still...I like the Virtanen pick, he's something the team needed badly. - LeftCoaster
Would you have gone Nylander over Virtanen? I thought Virtanen was basically another Bo-type, two-way player? |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Would you have gone Nylander over Virtanen? I thought Virtanen was basically another Bo-type, two-way player? - Ronning4ever
Me personally...no. They had a second 1st round pick and it's really hard to find what Jake has. It's really a gamble though to see if he can put it all together.
In hindsight I'm pretty sure I'd have taken Dylan Larkin over almost every other player. Except Ekblad. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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But JR was a goof. Remember when Hatcher broke his jaw. Today that hit would get you a lengthy suspension. - bloatedmosquito
I'd have taken Roenick over Linden looking back. It's amazing to see who the Canucks could've drafted had they made the right choice. Could be said for every team. |
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Me personally...no. They had a second 1st round pick and it's really hard to find what Jake has. It's really a gamble though to see if he can put it all together.
In hindsight I'm pretty sure I'd have taken Dylan Larkin over almost every other player. Except Ekblad. - LeftCoaster
I would have taken Draisaitl. Surprise |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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He still is a goof. But he carried the Hawks to the final offensively, along with Larmer. - golfingsince
Had a couple of not too shabby guys on the back end during those times as well, and throw in Savard.
I'm not too big on the "what ifs", Roenick could have ended up being a bust in Vancouver and traded early in his career, ending up where he is now because of personality. Who knows.
I'm happy they took Linden, he was the right guy for the job that needed doing. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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I would have taken Draisaitl. Surprise - thundachunk
#3 on my do-over list...kids good |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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But JR was a goof. Remember when Hatcher broke his jaw. Today that hit would get you a lengthy suspension. - bloatedmosquito
Total Goof.
I don't think he would have had the same career here in Vancouver.
Vancouver and Linden were/are a perfect match.
Characters like Kes, Bert, even Luongo don't last.
Vancouver seems to embrace the nice guys (ie Sedins). |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Denver's gonna win if the Patriots don't make some adjustments. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Looks like Higgins is doing his thing with the Comets. |
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Denver's gonna win if the Patriots don't make some adjustments. - LeftCoaster
Tom Brady is playing like Peyton and Peyton is playing like Brady |
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Looks like Higgins is doing his thing with the Comets. - Scooby_Doo
Sitting on the bench watching the other team score ? |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Sitting on the bench watching the other team score ? - Redmile247
He's probably -6 |
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He's probably -6 - LeftCoaster
That's what I was thinking when I read that but it says -1 |
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