Max.Betts
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 09.30.2015
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Expect Benning to offer 10 mil 7 years
He already has 20 goals . What's wrong with that? - VANTEL
Look at the contract Kopitar just signed. Stammer is going to get AT LEAST $10M a year. He might even be traded at the draft so a team could offer him that 8 year contract before july 1.
The question becomes for 7 yrs how much is he worth to any franchise?
And let's say the canucks paid the most for him: $80M for the next 7 years... who's he gonna play with? Do you think Steven Stamkos is going to sign here to play with Sven Baertchi and Jake Virtanen? Maybe it's my astigmatism but I just don't see it happening. This team is fine up the middle until hank retires.
I wouldnt want to offer any ufa a contract more than 5 years in length but you have to make RW and D a priority this offseason.
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Surprisingly, many fans in and around TO have come on board with Shanny's plan and are seemingly willing to be patient. Having an AHL team packed with young players who are doing very well seems to help.
Also, while the media in TO is pretty bad, I wouldn't call the fans media driven... TBH most fans I know can't stand the majority of the Toronto media, and with good reason. - lumlums
We'll see, a lot will depend on Rogers and whether or not they'll give Shanny time to do his thing or force him to try and pick up a Stamkos or someone similar in a trade or FA to speed up the process and ruining the chemistry you have going. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Look at the contract Kopitar just signed. Stammer is going to get AT LEAST $10M a year. He might even be traded at the draft so a team could offer him that 8 year contract before july 1.
The question becomes for 7 yrs how much is he worth to any franchise?
And let's say the canucks paid the most for him: $80M for the next 7 years... who's he gonna play with? Do you think Steven Stamkos is going to sign here to play with Sven Baertchi and Jake Virtanen? Maybe it's my astigmatism but I just don't see it happening. This team is fine up the middle until hank retires.
I wouldnt want to offer any ufa a contract more than 5 years in length but you have to make RW and D a priority this offseason. - Max.Betts
Funny enough, Stamkos is signing in Toronto. I've got it on a really good source that he wants to go home and be a God. Huge endorsements and if he ever brought the Leafs a cup...
However, that team is just awful right now. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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We'll see, a lot will depend on Rogers and whether or not they'll give Shanny time to do his thing or force him to try and pick up a Stamkos or someone similar in a trade or FA to speed up the process and ruining the chemistry you have going. - DariusKnight
There'll always be pressure to win, but luckily it seems that Shanny has autonomy over these decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if they did still go after Stamkos though if he's available; the kids won't need to be paid for a while, and he's the kind of player they'll want them to learn from. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Funny enough, Stamkos is signing in Toronto. I've got it on a really good source that he wants to go home and be a God. Huge endorsements and if he ever brought the Leafs a cup...
However, that team is just awful right now. - Scooby_Doo
Absolutely awful. There's some great prospects on the horizon though; just gotta get the future D sorted so that we don't become the Oilers... |
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Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 09.30.2015
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lecavalier just put LA on his back and scored the tying goal with 12 secs left. So crazy |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Yo Dragon. You gotta rethink this thought. - bloatedmosquito
I cant think of a single #1 D that is 25 or less. I could be wrong, who would that be though??
Id put it more around 27. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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I cant think of a single #1 D that is 25 or less. I could be wrong, who would that be though??
Id put it more around 27. - SMBDragon
Jones
Klingberg
Hedman
OEL
Hamilton
Faulk
Brodie
Ekblad
Ristolainen
Josi
Gostisbehere |
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PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Down by the Sea, BC Joined: 06.27.2014
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I don't even think the elderly remember anymore. Only evidence is the drawings on the walls in caves. - Scooby_Doo
And television signals halfway to the next closest Galaxy... |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Raonic has lost some serious steam here. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Jones
Klingberg
Hedman
OEL
Hamilton
Faulk
Brodie
Ekblad
Ristolainen
Josi
Gostisbehere - Scooby_Doo
wow. They are all #1's?
Hedman yes. So hedman is valid
Jones and Jusi were certainly behind S. Weber in nashville |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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wow. They are all #1's?
Hedman yes. So hedman is valid
Jones and Jusi were certainly behind S. Weber in nashville - SMBDragon
Yes they are all number ones, that's why I put them on the list.
Jones is number one in Columbus, does that not count? |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Ok jones counts. josi not so much - SMBDragon
Just because they are behind on the depth chart doesn't make them any less a #1. If Weber was gone Josi would be qa solid #1 to replace him. Nashville is lucky with 2x #1 dmen. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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What a tennis match.
Great win for Raonic. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Ok jones counts. josi not so much - SMBDragon
Josi>Weber. I said it. statistically it's just a straight up fact that he has been the past season and a half. Weber defiently brings a lot of qualities though, some that Josi doesn't have but if I'm trading for either one it's Josi 10 out of 10 times. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Jones
Klingberg
Hedman
OEL
Hamilton
Faulk
Brodie
Ekblad
Ristolainen
Josi
Gostisbehere - Scooby_Doo
These guys are not #1 D's.
Top 4 i'll give you.
And i'm on the fence with Risto and Klinberg.
Hedman, OEL, Ekblad and Josi look to be/are #1's. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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These guys are not #1 D's.
Top 4 i'll give you.
And i'm on the fence with Risto and Klinberg.
Hedman, OEL, Ekblad and Josi look to be/are #1's. - dbot
Risto and Faulk are right now playing #1, Risto is killing it for me in my pool good all around guy. mUch as I dislike Calgary, Brodie also has legit #1 written all over him. Hamilton maybe not at this point. Ekblad will be by next year. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Risto and Faulk are right now playing #1, Risto is killing it for me in my pool good all around guy. mUch as I dislike Calgary, Brodie also has legit #1 written all over him. Hamilton maybe not at this point. Ekblad will be by next year. - neem55
Ok, but what are we talking about here then...
They are playing #1 D on a crappy team (Edler)
Or are true #1's behind other #1's (Josi and Weber)
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Doesn't make much sense if we're including both concepts of #1.
I was operating under, is a legit top 30 Dman in entire league. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Ok, but what are we talking about here then...
They are playing #1 D on a crappy team (Edler)
Or are true #1's behind other #1's (Josi and Weber)
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Doesn't make much sense if we're including both concepts of #1.
I was operating under, is a legit top 30 Dman in entire league. - dbot
For me Josi is the best d on Nashville. He plays (slightly)more minutes than Shea, has more points and a better corsi.
With regards to Faulk, he's a #1 and considerably better than Edler all around.
Risto I think has some growing to do but is a legit #1 IMO, which will be clearer as that ship continues to right itself. Buffalo is in great shape with O'rielly, Eichel and Risto. Really impressed with Murray, guy knows how to build/tank. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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For me Josi is the best d on Nashville. He plays (slightly)more minutes than Shea, has more points and a better corsi. - neem55
Ai-ight.
So, do you really think that all those other listed are TRUE #1s to the same level as Josi? |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Ai-ight.
So, do you really think that all those other listed are TRUE #1s to the same level as Josi? - dbot
No but I not all #1's are top-5 guys in the Norris conversation. Faulk has had a pretty imprssive year, before this year I wouldn't have him in htat conversation. Jones/hamiltion/gottobethere aren't there yet.
I should also mentioned the really obvious pick here is Erik Karlson, at 25 years old which is who I thought of when SMB threw this out there. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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No but I not all #1's are top-5 guys in the Norris conversation. Faulk has had a pretty imprssive year, before this year I wouldn't have him in htat conversation. Jones/hamiltion/gottobethere aren't there yet.
I should also mentioned the really obvious pick here is Erik Karlson, at 25 years old which is who I thought of when SMB threw this out there. - neem55
For those reading now The post started as someone wanting to trade mcann for a #1 D under 25. Like there would be a surplus of them.
I didnt think there would be #1 D under 25. People have pointed out there were a few.
So there is maybe a handful in the entire 700 player catalog, which does go to show its rare. So to the original poster, which of those names do you think you'll get for mcann? |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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