TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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I have some very terrible stats for you if you want them?
Basically Tyrod was really bad, but his stats are misleading.
And he got worse as the season went on. - ImThatGuy
he's in the pro bowl. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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It's out of 32 teams. Only in Buffalo will our fans complain about a QB on our team making it. - Fattony1187
So 32 teams have a chance for their QB to make it on the AFC squad? That's new.
Again, I like the guy, I'm ok with him being the Bills QB and seeing if he can be good for the team (this season the QB play wasn't why they were bad)...but to think he is true pro bowl quality is a bit of a reach. |
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stashu
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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he's in the pro bowl. - TheSabresTaco
And John Scott is an All Star! |
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So 32 teams have a chance for their QB to make it on the AFC squad? That's new.
Again, I like the guy, I'm ok with him being the Bills QB and seeing if he can be good for the team (this season the QB play wasn't why they were bad)...but to think he is true pro bowl quality is a bit of a reach. - stashu
He replaced cam newton.
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Maybe Bylsma is working on Kane's game? On WGR this morning, he mentioned about a couple of plays in which they hurt themselves...I.e. "We have possession on the offensive side of the red line and cause a turnover and it comes back into our end for extended time." It wasn't word for word quote, but I believe it was 90+% accurate.
If he can get Kane to shoot in to an area with purpose, rather than ripping a snap shot off the boards and out...well, he might have something there.
Let's hope he is drilling that in.
That said, I only watched about a period across the 1st and 2nd...Kane was hustling rather well. Just needs to be a bit more intelligent when he has the puck on his stick. |
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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he's in the pro bowl. - TheSabresTaco
Stats:
Completion %
Sep - 74%
Oct - 64%
Nov - 61%
Dec - 57%
COM ATT YDS %
Behind LOS 48 58 332 82.8
1-10 yds 114 156 922 73.1
11-20 yds 34 69 586 49.3
21-30 yds 13 34 339 38.2
31-40 yds 8 21 314 38.1 |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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He replaced cam newton. - Fattony1187
I honestly don't pay attention to the pro bowl, but how did that happen if Cam Newton is an NFC quarterback? |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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He replaced cam newton. - Fattony1187
Andy Dalton made the Pro Bowl last year.... |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Stats:
Completion %
Sep - 74%
Oct - 64%
Nov - 61%
Dec - 57%
COM ATT YDS %
Behind LOS 48 58 332 82.8
1-10 yds 114 156 922 73.1
11-20 yds 34 69 586 49.3
21-30 yds 13 34 339 38.2
31-40 yds 8 21 314 38.1 - ImThatGuy
If these are accurate, it is very interesting. I would expect for a good QB to have substantially higher % in the 11-20 category...to like say low/mid 60's%.
While the 21-30 would be in the mid/upper 40's.
Much has been written about how he was limited on throws over the middle, which is where you see both of those categories emerge. Let's see about how/if he grows into that. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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If these are accurate, it is very interesting. I would expect for a good QB to have substantially higher % in the 11-20 category...to like say low/mid 60's%.
While the 21-30 would be in the mid/upper 40's.
Much has been written about how he was limited on throws over the middle, which is where you see both of those categories emerge. Let's see about how/if he grows into that. - IonSabres
What scares me is with a year of film on Tyrod, teams will just take away the sidelines and make him throw over the middle |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I honestly don't pay attention to the pro bowl, but how did that happen if Cam Newton is an NFC quarterback? - stashu
there is no afc/nfc teams
they "draft" the teams before the game |
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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First,
I'm listening to Bylsma on GR55 while driving my daughter to school this morning.
The guy sounds dead, seriously.
No inflection whatsoever in his voice, as monotone as monotone gets.
Listening to him brought me back to this guy and that's not good.
Secondly,
If Lehner and the Sabres do not do well in Ottawa tonight does Robin go full "Rask" on the ice tonight?
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Stats:
Completion %
Sep - 74%
Oct - 64%
Nov - 61%
Dec - 57%
COM ATT YDS %
Behind LOS 48 58 332 82.8
1-10 yds 114 156 922 73.1
11-20 yds 34 69 586 49.3
21-30 yds 13 34 339 38.2
31-40 yds 8 21 314 38.1 - ImThatGuy
I never gave too much thought into that stat. By comparison, it's like judging Ristos break out pass too a forward. If the forward doesn't grab it, could that be a incomplete pass ?
Is it the forwards fault or Ristos fault? |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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First,
I'm listening to Bylsma on GR55 while driving my daughter to school this morning.
The guy sounds dead, seriously.
No inflection whatsoever in his voice, as monotone as monotone gets.
Listening to him brought me back to this guy and that's not good.
Secondly,
If Lehner and the Sabres do not do well in Ottawa tonight does Robin go full "Rask" on the ice tonight?
- BuffaloHardHat
So, putting on my Scout hat, after watching those two videos of Rask....
" Clearly Rask has that "fire in his belly" ... Show casing an extremely high compete level that will positively influence his teammates, if they manage to stay out of his way when he throws his hockey stick or acts like Paul Bunyon with it"
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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I never gave too much thought into that stat. By comparison, it's like judging Ristos break out pass too a forward. If the forward doesn't grab it, could that be a incomplete pass ?
Is it the forwards fault or Ristos fault? - cabin
Thank you for mentioning that Cab (Its like you read my mind)
The Bills were credited with teh 3rd fewest drops and the 3 best Drop % in the NFL.
16 Drops last year.
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I wouldn't mind Lehner going off like that when a forward or Dman makes a glaring mistake, lol! That would hit home more that Disco Dan droning on and on about the mistakes.
It would add an exciting element to the game for the viewers.
I'm all for it...Go Robin! |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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there is no afc/nfc teams
they "draft" the teams before the game - homiedclown
Gotcha. That's annoying... |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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I wouldn't mind Lehner going off like that when a forward or Dman makes a glaring mistake, lol! That would hit home more that Disco Dan droning on and on about the mistakes.
It would add an exciting element to the game for the viewers.
I'm all for it...Go Robin! - IonSabres
I understand that Lehner is coming off an injury and Johnson was playing OK.
Lehner should be starting.
This season is lost, why are we not trying to get him as much game action as possible? |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Nice post breaking down his change in production.
I hadn't realized he'd been doing so well recently. Good to see the steady climb in production.
Breaking it down by your post:
4 in first 12
10 in next 21
18 in next (most recent) 16 - stashu
Eichel's Production, ppg
October - 0.36
November - 0.62
December - 0.79
January - 0.82
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Thank you for mentioning that Cab (Its like you read my mind)
The Bills were credited with teh 3rd fewest drops and the 3 best Drop % in the NFL.
16 Drops last year.
- ImThatGuy
So that data point then reinforces the issue is with the QB throwing uncatchable passes if those completion and drop percentages are accurate. |
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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It's out of 32 teams. Only in Buffalo will our fans complain about a QB on our team making it. - Fattony1187
And unless you live in a bubble, I don't think an explanation is needed on why he is going there.
I think we all know how and why Tyrod is going to Hawaii.
Me?
I'm happy for the guy.
IMO, he and Incognito deserve it.
I know Wood is there but....eh, Kent Hull (Rest In Peace) he is not. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I understand that Lehner is coming off an injury and Johnson was playing OK.
Lehner should be starting.
This season is lost, why are we not trying to get him as much game action as possible? - ImThatGuy
Sop being that guy and asking the tough questions.
Actually, could it be they are trying to keep Johnsons trade value high? |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Lehner's looked great up to this point. Happy for him. |
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IndianaSabresFan
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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If you look up, you may see my point whizzing by your dumb azz. - Khmylev
oh i got your stupid dumb azz point.. i just didn't think it was necessary nor as witty as you thought it was |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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Eichel's Production, ppg
October - 0.36
November - 0.62
December - 0.79
January - 0.82 - TheSabresTaco
That's awesome. For some reason I thought he was doing a bit poorly lately, but glad to see I was wrong (not that I'd criticize him, it's year 1).
October is surprising though, since I agreed with Goose and others who said they thought he'd come in to the league a bit more prepared after playing against older guys in college compared to those who go to Juniors.
Definitely enjoying the ride though. |
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