I'd love for them to offer Hamhuis 2 yrs at 3mil, he'll waive his NTC immediately.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'd budge on my $$$ but don't want him here long term.

I had the same feeling when Willie Mitchell was on his expiring contract and then left for LA... not sure how much longer he would be in the league with all his concussions. Happy that he got his cup though.

I'd budge on my $$$ but don't want him here long term.

I had the same feeling when Willie Mitchell was on his expiring contract and then left for LA... not sure how much longer he would be in the league with all his concussions. Happy that he got his cup though.
- hillbillydeluxe

It wouldn't have happened in Vancouver though

We are three wins away from being in the top 10 of the league. We are not as horrible as some think.

Tanev Edler Hutton Biega are adequate top 4 , hopeful to improve but not urgent
- VANTEL

we have good forwards and good goalies...happy with the team in that respect.

think about how much better we could be with a better D.
You cant score from your own zone and we are trapped in it WAYYYY too long. Average dump in around nhl teams Ive timed at 4 seconds to have removed from zone....we are at minimum 11 seconds. Sometimes over 30 sec and sometimes over a minute per time in the zone. NO other team has that.

It only leads to goals against. Remember in pro hockey the difference between bottom feeders and contenders is like 3-7%. We could be #1 in conference with a D clearing the zone properly.

I'd budge on my $$$ but don't want him here long term.

I had the same feeling when Willie Mitchell was on his expiring contract and then left for LA... not sure how much longer he would be in the league with all his concussions. Happy that he got his cup though.
- hillbillydeluxe

2 cups and playoff bound leading Florida... not a great idea to let him walk.

I would look to also see who is unsigned RFA on July first maybe you can steal someone

If we got Benn or Gryba this year I would look at it as a win
- VANTEL

When I look at Calgary, I wonder if they have some guys in the minors that might be worth a look? Or maybe they want to dump Engelland or someone else that has a year or two remaining to free up some salary?

Benn looks like an interesting option if he is still there in the summer. Not sure how much JB wants to roll the dice.

Looking forward to the summer, salary cap stagnation or retraction could create some opportunities.

It wouldn't have happened in Vancouver though
- VANTEL

no doubt.

It wouldn't have happened in Vancouver though
- VANTEL

We did come one win away from being champs not long after he left, I'm not so sure this is true.

I would look to also see who is unsigned RFA on July first maybe you can steal someone

If we got Benn or Gryba this year I would look at it as a win
- VANTEL

I'd take Gryba

we have good forwards and good goalies...happy with the team in that respect.

think about how much better we could be with a better D.
You cant score from your own zone and we are trapped in it WAYYYY too long. Average dump in around nhl teams Ive timed at 4 seconds to have removed from zone....we are at minimum 11 seconds. Sometimes over 30 sec and sometimes over a minute per time in the zone. NO other team has that.

It only leads to goals against. Remember in pro hockey the difference between bottom feeders and contenders is like 3-7%. We could be #1 in conference with a D clearing the zone properly.
- SMBDragon

This group of forwards isn't winning a playoff series. D-men are definitely needed, but our forwards are pretty bad at having consistent o-zone time.

2 cups and playoff bound leading Florida... not a great idea to let him walk.
- neem55

He was having concussion issues, out of the lineup for some stretches, knocked a bit for lack of foot speed, known for his long stick and being a stay at home dman.... a real good team guy.

I always liked him in a Canucks uni. Unfortunately, all those concussion issues, I didn't see him lasting this long, which makes me fear even more for his long term health and wellness as far as the brain goes.

GM's roll the dice. It paid off for LA.

Sometimes just going to a new organization can invigorate a player too, not sure if his luck was getting any better in Vancouver.

He was having concussion issues, out of the lineup for some stretches, knocked a bit for lack of foot speed, known for his long stick and being a stay at home dman.... a real good team guy.

I always liked him in a Canucks uni. Unfortunately, all those concussion issues, I didn't see him lasting this long, which makes me fear even more for his long term health and wellness as far as the brain goes.

GM's roll the dice. It paid off for LA.
- hillbillydeluxe

Totally, and in all honesty we let him go and signed Hamhuis who has been stellar as his replacement. I was just pointing out that saying he wouldn't of won here is pretty arbitrary, as when you come within 1 game of winning a different player or two might have been the difference

There's no way.

He came from a nice fam his dad was my gym teacher in highscool and he definately is no dummy. He fuked up made a bunch of money in the process
- The_Kuze

You mean lost a lot of money....

Campbell, Yandle, Russell, Goligoski are all available as well.

I agree that I hope Hamhuis is moved for a good return and don't want the team to commit long term to him but I would feel a lot better about the teams development of prospects with Dan on the team.
- belcherbd

goligoski is the only guy on that list worth spending top 4 money on. Yandle=old/small, Russell=overrated, Campbell=old. Just not worth it for this team.
I agree with the sentiment about guys learning from Hamhuis, if he comes back for 1-2 mil I will be stoked. He's an ideal 5-6 guy at this point in his career, with reduced minutes/responsibility.
Edit: but trade him and let him come back at that price.

goligoski is the only guy on that list worth spending top 4 money on. Yandle=old/small, Russell=overrated, Campbell=old. Just not worth it for this team.
I agree with the sentiment about guys learning from Hamhuis, if he comes back for 1-2 mil I will be stoked. He's an ideal 5-6 guy at this point in his career, with reduced minutes/responsibility.
Edit: but trade him and let him come back at that price.
- neem55

5-6? I strongly disagree. He may have some years on him but he should still easily be considered top 4 without a doubt.

We did come one win away from being champs not long after he left, I'm not so sure this is true.
- neem55

It's and buts

It's and buts
- VANTEL

I'm just saying, you can't dismissively say we wouldn't have won with other players when we came within 1 game of winning... it's just illogical.

goligoski is the only guy on that list worth spending top 4 money on. Yandle=old/small, Russell=overrated, Campbell=old. Just not worth it for this team.
I agree with the sentiment about guys learning from Hamhuis, if he comes back for 1-2 mil I will be stoked. He's an ideal 5-6 guy at this point in his career, with reduced minutes/responsibility.
Edit: but trade him and let him come back at that price.
- neem55

I would be surprised if Hamhuis wasn't here next year.

2 cups and playoff bound leading Florida... not a great idea to let him walk.
- neem55

We are not the LA kings. Winning the playoffs are a lot different than making them. It doesn't hurt having Ekblad Gudbrandson Barkov Huberdeau and Bjugstad also plus a guy like Thorton for toughness

5-6? I strongly disagree. He may have some years on him but he should still easily be considered top 4 without a doubt.
- vancity787

that's fair. It's what he is playing this season, I like Hamhuis but he's been getting beaten pretty handedly due to a lack of footspeed this year. I think ideally he does definetly make our d-corps better weh nhe comes back, but that's because we have two rrokies in the lineup. he's lost a step.

We are not the LA kings. Winning the playoffs are a lot different than making them. It doesn't hurt having Ekblad Gudbrandson Barkov Huberdeau and Bjugstad also plus a guy like Thorton for toughness
- VANTEL

We came within one game, I don't understand what is confusing about this. What did we lack in game 7... well lets see Hamhuis was injured and Rome was suspended... It's not too much of a stretch to say we could have won that game with another d-man. Does LA win both those cups without Mitchell? IMO no, no they don't. When a team comes within one game of winning there is nothing dramatically wrong with the lineup, Hamhuis injured was the turning point and to claim Canucks weren't capable of winning at that point is just irrational nonsense.

We came within one game, I don't understand what is confusing about this. What did we lack in game 7... well lets see Hamhuis was injured and Rome was suspended... It's not too much of a stretch to say we could have won that game with another d-man. Does LA win both those cups without Mitchell? IMO no, no they don't. When a team comes within one game of winning there is nothing dramatically wrong with the lineup, Hamhuis injured was the turning point and to claim Canucks weren't capable of winning at that point is just irrational nonsense.
- neem55

I do understand. You are saying ifs and buts.

We came within one game, I don't understand what is confusing about this. What did we lack in game 7... well lets see Hamhuis was injured and Rome was suspended... It's not too much of a stretch to say we could have won that game with another d-man. Does LA win both those cups without Mitchell? IMO no, no they don't. When a team comes within one game of winning there is nothing dramatically wrong with the lineup, Hamhuis injured was the turning point and to claim Canucks weren't capable of winning at that point is just irrational nonsense.
- neem55

Cherry said with a healthy Hamhuis in the lineup eating up 30 min/game and Rome in gm 7 we most likely win. Past is past though. I'm looking forward to seeing this new crop of kids really contend in 3-5 years. I'm hoping we get back to that position of winning with a different line up.

that's fair. It's what he is playing this season, I like Hamhuis but he's been getting beaten pretty handedly due to a lack of footspeed this year. I think ideally he does definetly make our d-corps better weh nhe comes back, but that's because we have two rrokies in the lineup. he's lost a step.
- neem55

Hamhuis looks worse than he is because the rest of the Dmen around him are garbage.

For an exception of Hutton. And at times Edler.

Hamhuis looks worse than he is because the rest of the Dmen around him are garbage.

For an exception of Hutton. And at times Edler.
- vancity787

Hutton definitely has his moments (As we all do) But he's been pretty steady all year long.

Edler is just a flip of the coin. Certainly isn't what he was projected to be.

We are not the LA kings. Winning the playoffs are a lot different than making them. It doesn't hurt having Ekblad Gudbrandson Barkov Huberdeau and Bjugstad also plus a guy like Thorton for toughness
- VANTEL

We did win in the playoffs, it's not a matter of if or but. Coming within 1 win is a successfull season, dissappointing no doubt, but successfull. no ifs ands or buts about it. Thanks for continuing to poke at the comment though... starting to sound like my grandpa with the repetition