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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:05 PM ET
The way I understand it, it's less about Weal, and more about giving something else a try.

The bottom six is getting reamed.

- Tomahawk



THIS
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 27 @ 2:05 PM ET
true but if someone is offering you a 7th for umberger you take it and move someone up if needed
- 2Real



In that scenario, hell yeah.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:06 PM ET
Because there are many options. I just don't see the travesty of justice in not playing Weal that some folks here do.
- Scoob

Well no, I have no reason to throw any additional weight behind him over other guys. But the fact he's here and can't be waived kinda puts him at the forefront though as an available/immediate option.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Yeah.

I am sorry. I thought the Phantoms were a little closer then where they are to the playoffs.

- J35Bacher


I only happened to know where they were in the standings because I was thinking about heading up there if they had a home game this weekend (they do on Friday and they are on the road the rest of the weekend).

They are not a good team: http://www.phantomshockey...om/team/league-standings/
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 27 @ 2:12 PM ET
My point, again, is that there are many options for change and when I see posters flipping out that Weal specifically isn't in the lineup I scratch my head in wonder because he's not "the answer" to any Flyers question. He's just a change, as would be Cousins or any of the other options. Some posters are acting like it's Gretzky not able to crack the lineup.
- Scoob


No one thinks Weal is the messiah here. He could be a decent NHL player, he might be a tweener. Wouldn't shock me to see either. It's not even entirely about Weal, the player. It's about Weal, the idea: giving a young unproven guy a chance over an old known. That's why we are bummed after seeing a more or less solid first game in a month with a new team backed up by a scratching, while Teflon players are continually iced.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:13 PM ET
My point, again, is that there are many options for change and when I see posters flipping out that Weal specifically isn't in the lineup I scratch my head in wonder because he's not "the answer" to any Flyers question. He's just a change, as would be Cousins or any of the other options. Some posters are acting like it's Gretzky not able to crack the lineup.
- Scoob



well unless Gagner is sent back down, the options to go in are Weal and Weal. he is the 13th forward right now. He is the player on the roster. want to give Cousins, Leier or anyone else a shot, awesome, send someone down. Just makes sense to see what Weal can do given he is on the roster and isn't going to be sent down. I'm so over seeing Umberger. I am sick of seeing a third line that is an OK 4th line at best on most teams. 20-21-89?

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:13 PM ET
They might not.

I was just saying I wouldn't take from them if they were.

- J35Bacher


why not?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
No one thinks Weal is the messiah here. He could be a decent NHL player, he might be a tweener. Wouldn't shock me to see either. It's not even entirely about Weal, the player. It's about Weal, the idea: giving a young unproven guy a chance over an old known. That's why we are bummed after seeing a more or less solid first game in a month with a new team backed up by a scratching, while Teflon players are continually iced.
- Mononoke



and old known that hasn't scored in over a yr. and old know that brings very little outside of having size. I liked RJ a lot his first go around. He seems like a good guy but come on, enough
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
More RJ tonight?????

Yeahhhhhhhh boyyyyyyy! It's 50 in a row!

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
and old known that hasn't scored in over a yr. and old know that brings very little outside of having size. I liked RJ a lot his first go around. He seems like a good guy but come on, enough
- nastyflyergirl

iirc, RJ's last goal was 1/27/15, so he still has tonight's game in hand before it's officially been over year.

Nit status: picked
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 27 @ 2:18 PM ET
why not?
- funmaster18

They need to go on a run.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
well unless Gagner is sent back down, the options to go in are Weal and Weal. he is the 13th forward right now. He is the player on the roster. want to give Cousins, Leier or anyone else a shot, awesome, send someone down. Just makes sense to see what Weal can do given he is on the roster and isn't going to be sent down. I'm so over seeing Umberger. I am sick of seeing a third line that is an OK 4th line at best on most teams. 20-21-89?
- nastyflyergirl


I get it. I guess I'm a little more patient/resigned about this season than other folks.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
More RJ tonight?????

Yeahhhhhhhh boyyyyyyy! It's 50 in a row!


- PLindbergh31


Best hype man in the game
3flyerkids
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:23 PM ET
More RJ tonight?????

Yeahhhhhhhh boyyyyyyy! It's 50 in a row!


- PLindbergh31


you got that right!
Tomahawk
Location: Free Frosty: Mission Accomplished
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:25 PM ET
I get it. I guess I'm a little more patient/resigned about this season than other folks.
- Scoob


I would feel the same way if one Scott Laughton wasn't in that bottom-six getting taken along for the nightly reaming.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:26 PM ET
iirc, RJ's last goal was 1/27/15, so he still has tonight's game in hand before it's officially been over year.

Nit status: picked

- BulliesPhan87



pretty sure its a safe comment to make
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:26 PM ET
Yeah.

I am sorry. I thought the Phantoms were a little closer then where they are to the playoffs.

- J35Bacher


Yeah, they're not that close. They started off well, but regressed a bit. Which is fine, they have a lot of guys without much pro experience, and their top blueline weapon is giving Flyers' fans at least one reason to watch every night. They'll have to make a big push if they want to make it.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:29 PM ET
I get it. I guess I'm a little more patient/resigned about this season than other folks.
- Scoob



know what? I am very patient about the season. I mean, while I want to see them make the playoffs and win, I am more than accepting of the direction Hextall is taking the organization. I am accepting of another non playoff season which is probably going to happen. but I just would like to see young players get a chance when the status quo is just bad.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:30 PM ET
Yeah, they're not that close. They started off well, but regressed a bit. Which is fine, they have a lot of guys without much pro experience, and their top blueline weapon is giving Flyers' fans at least one reason to watch every night. They'll have to make a big push if they want to make it.
- jmatchett383



losing Laughton and Ghost to the Flyers and various injuries certainly didn't help their chances
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:31 PM ET
losing Laughton and Ghost to the Flyers and various injuries certainly didn't help their chances
- nastyflyergirl


if only umberger was down there to help provide some structure
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
Anyone know when Hexy and Hak meet will talk with the season ticket holders for their annual town hall meeting?
Tomahawk
Location: Free Frosty: Mission Accomplished
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
but I just would like to see young players get a chance when the status quo is just bad.
- nastyflyergirl



Would also like to see those young players being put in a position to succeed/develop. Asking a 20-yo to carry the corpse of RJ Umberger around is a tough thing to do.

I guess it kind of opens up the debate about whether this team should be prioritizing winning the next game over long-term goals/development right now. I'm a firm believer that it should be the latter.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
Yeah, they're not that close. They started off well, but regressed a bit. Which is fine, they have a lot of guys without much pro experience, and their top blueline weapon is giving Flyers' fans at least one reason to watch every night. They'll have to make a big push if they want to make it.
- jmatchett383

They aren't that far back. They could definitely push their way in.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
Cue explosion in 3,2,1...
- BiggE


(frank) Coburn aka Heartburn
Tomahawk
Location: Free Frosty: Mission Accomplished
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
(frank) Coburn aka Heartburn
- dragonoffrost


You're gonna love it when they sign him this summer in UFA.
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