wait, so do I understand correctly that Mark Streit is NOT in the HOF?

how far?
- Giroux_Is_God

Stuff actually came out my nose on that one

wait, so do I understand correctly that Mark Streit is NOT in the HOF?
- BulliesPhan87

He is in the Swiss Olympic Hall of Fame...we have not decided yet if he is in the NHL one...check back this afternoon

wait, so do I understand correctly that Mark Streit is NOT in the HOF?
- BulliesPhan87

Because he's not elite, you dummy

He is in the Swiss Olympic Hall of Fame...we have not decided yet if he is in the NHL one...check back this afternoon
- YuenglingJagr

So is he just Swiss elite? Swelite?

So what exactly? We are comparing Voracek's last 4 seasons to Oates and Forsberg's entire career. Am I following?
- SuperSchennBros

I dont even know where to begin, how to begin, or if I even should begin.

There is no comparison. Never was. I highlighted those players because they were not goal scorers over their career. Voracek is not a goal scorer.


There. Thats the comparison if you want one.

Jake is like Oates and Forsberg in that they are primary set up guys.

So is he just Swiss elite? Swelite?
- BulliesPhan87

Swiss farms is elite.

Because he's not elite, you dummy
- Giroux_Is_God

You are so on your own with this one.

Swiss farms is elite.
- jak521

I live and die by the Wawa brand

I was just being a Richard there...yes they are all different things, but you are saying Voracek is not an elite player even though by most measurable statistics, he clearly is. You even brought up the questions in one of your posts, but if you actually took the time to answer them you would see he is.

There is no question Jake is an elite playmaker, but he is also an elite player. He would be the best player in the league if he became an elite goal scorer as well...what you have conjured up in your head is unattainable.

From your posts it seems like in order to be an elite player you have to:
score 30 goals per season multiple times
have a high amount of career points and goals
be in the hall of fame
be lite out
score on a nightly basis and in shootouts
- YuenglingJagr

I do believe Voracek to be one of the elite passers in the league and hopefully nobody starts using the term "elite puck possession player" because the entire red wings team can dance around players with the puck on their stick nightly. I just don't believe Voracek to be elite overall, regardless of how many points he has the past 4 years specifically.

So is he just Swiss elite? Swelite?
- BulliesPhan87

It is called the frank

Dude's a (frank)in animal when he gets going.
- Giroux_Is_God

I dont even know where to begin, how to begin, or if I even should begin.

There is no comparison. Never was. I highlighted those players because they were not goal scorers over their career. Voracek is not a goal scorer.


There. Thats the comparison if you want one.

Jake is like Oates and Forsberg in that they are primary set up guys.
- jak521

It's not the same thing. They're also Hall of Famers.

I do believe Voracek to be one of the elite passers in the league and hopefully nobody starts using the term "elite puck possession player" because the entire red wings team can dance around players with the puck on their stick nightly. I just don't believe Voracek to be elite overall, regardless of how many points he has the past 4 years specifically.
- SuperSchennBros

That is fine, but what blows me (and obviously others) away is what you think it takes to be an elite player. Out of your elite list of players...would you seriously rather have any of those guys on the Flyers more than Voracek?

It's not the same thing. They're also Hall of Famers.
- SuperSchennBros

In other news. How about Ghost last night.. Kids a stud.
- jak521

Now if Provorov, Morin and Sanheim would just get here, we'd actually have a quality D.

It is called the frank
- YuenglingJagr

huh, you learn something new everyday

That is fine but that is what blows me (and obviously others) away with what you consider elite. Out of your elite list of players...would you seriously rather have any of those guys on the Flyers more than Voracek?
- YuenglingJagr

Yes.. Yes he would.

Forsberg scored 0.35 goals per game for his career. He was an elite player, not an elite goal scorer.
- Feanor

Is Jake Voracek equal to Peter Forsberg, when Forsberg was 23 to 26? Google it! Go!

Now if Provorov, Morin and Sanheim would just get here, we'd actually have a quality D.
- BiggE

Seriously.

I was really happy with how well Ghost played defensively last night. Especially seeing that much time against the most dangerous forward alive.

Seriously.

I was really happy with how well Ghost played defensively last night. Especially seeing that much time against the most dangerous forward alive.
- jak521

Matt Cooke is a Capital?

Now if Provorov, Morin and Sanheim would just get here, we'd actually have a quality D.
- BiggE

Hextall said at the beginning of the season that D prospects will trickle up to the NHL throughout the season....it's like GoT trailers...I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

So is he just Swiss elite? Swelite?
- BulliesPhan87

Yes. Very good but has some holes in his game

Is Jake Voracek equal to Peter Forsberg, when Forsberg was 23 to 26? Google it! Go!
- SuperSchennBros

Hahha actually not that far off.


Oh and btdubs.. I googled it.

Matt Cooke is a Capital?
- BulliesPhan87

Bastard. I was obviously referring to that Wilson Wilson guy.