TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Darcy is their AGM....??? - Pope of Pucks
Exactly. He'll never get traded because he was drafted by the yotes |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Darcy is their AGM....??? - Pope of Pucks
Their prospect cupboards are pretty dang nice.
Granted they don't have top end talent like we do with Kane, ROR, and Eichel but they have young guns. |
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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Amherst, NY Joined: 06.29.2011
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Not sure I understand why Fasching playing 3 years is a bad thing??
He wanted to come last year but TM told him another year there would be good for him. - JVince11
I don't think it's bad for him. Players like Eichel and Larkin are the exceptions in cawlige hawkey, not the rule.
That said, I agree with seeing him in the AHL before I make any pencilings. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Their prospect cupboards are pretty dang nice.
Granted they don't have top end talent like we do with Kane, ROR, and Eichel but they have young guns. - JVince11
Yes they do.
Strome, Duclair and Domi are pretty top end. OEL is probably the 2nd or 3rd best defensemen in the game right now. Stone is also an excellent 2-4 young defensemen.
The Yotes are in a good spot |
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Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ Joined: 08.04.2009
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Their prospect cupboards are pretty dang nice.
Granted they don't have top end talent like we do with Kane, ROR, and Eichel but they have young guns. - JVince11
They got lucky with Duclair and Domi performing like they are. Not that the talent wasn't there but that they were able to perform so well with the adjustment to the NHL. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Yes they do.
Strome, Duclair and Domi are pretty top end. OEL is probably the 2nd or 3rd best defensemen in the game right now. Stone is also an excellent 2-4 young defensemen.
The Yotes are in a good spot - sbroads24
I think you misunderstood. We have young talents like Eichel, Reinhart, and Risto who are in a category like Domi, Duclair, OEL, and Strome.
By top end talent I guess I meant like NHL proven players and vets like ROR and Kane in their primes. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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They got lucky with Duclair and Domi performing like they are. Not that the talent wasn't there but that they were able to perform so well with the adjustment to the NHL. - Pope of Pucks
True statement.
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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Larkin only played 1 year of college hockey though. - HonkFortheGoose
I'll go out on a limb and guess that there are players who have done similar and maybe even worse than Fasching and have turned into good NHLers.
Oshie's last year in college (Junior year) he was 45 P in 42 GP
Blake Wheeler was a "scrub" in college (junior year) - 35 points in 44 games
Just pointing out that a single example pulled out doesn't make another player's abilities similar. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I think you misunderstood. We have young talents like Eichel, Reinhart, and Risto who are in a category like Domi, Duclair, OEL, and Strome.
By top end talent I guess I meant like NHL proven players and vets like ROR and Kane in their primes. - JVince11
They don't have an O'Reilly, but Boedker and Hanzal are decent pieces. I'd love to grab Boedker |
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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
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I'll go out on a limb and guess that there are players who have done similar and maybe even worse than Fasching and have turned into good NHLers.
Oshie's last year in college (Junior year) he was 45 P in 42 GP
Blake Wheeler was a "scrub" in college (junior year) - 35 points in 44 games
Just pointing out that a single example pulled out doesn't make another player's abilities similar. - stashu
I get it. You also have to take into account the team around the player. One guy can only do so much, and I don't watch enough NCAA hockey to know how each team is constructed and such. I do like to catch games once in a while when they're on ESPN though. |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Just to note... the 5-8 range in most mock drafts is when ALL of the DMen start coming off the board. Nyland and Dubois after them.
Don't know if Chychrun, Sergachev, Fabbro, or Bean are at developmentally in terms of NHL ready or viewed as top pairing quality ceiling. - JVince11
Not necessarily answering your question, but worth a look anyways.
http://thehockeywriters.c...ext-ones-midterm-edition/ |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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I get it. You also have to take into account the team around the player. One guy can only do so much, and I don't watch enough NCAA hockey to know how each team is constructed and such. I do like to catch games once in a while when they're on ESPN though. - HonkFortheGoose
I don't watch enough either but the fact that he is the leading scorer on the team tells me something. I know that Minnesota lost a lot of talent and is very young this year.
They are ranked #20 with a 8-2 record leading the B10 but 13-10 overall on the season.
I know that Kris Baker watches a TON of Fasching and continues to compliment on how well he is playing and could be impactful in Buffalo next year. I trust him. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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They don't have an O'Reilly, but Boedker and Hanzal are decent pieces. I'd love to grab Boedker - sbroads24
Boedker is good yes... but he is a 2nd line winger on almost any team in the NHL. Hanzal is borderline 2C on almost any NHL team as well.
I'd say Vermette is just as good if not better than Hanzal.
Neither of those are bonifide top line guys like Kane or ROR are. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I'm not trading away our pick if it's in the top 3 we will regret it for the rest of our lives |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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I'm not trading away our pick if it's in the top 3 we will regret it for the rest of our lives - gerbe75pts
Somehow I think I'll survive...my life is a little more fulfilling than that. |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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I'm not trading away our pick if it's in the top 3 we will regret it for the rest of our lives - gerbe75pts
Your young . you'll get over it. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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I'm not trading away our pick if it's in the top 3 we will regret it for the rest of our lives - gerbe75pts
I'm with you...
If it is Matthews or Puljujarvi then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Girgensons - Eichel - Matthews/Puljujarvi
If it is Tkachuk or Laine then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Tkachuk/Laine - Eichel - Girgensons/Ennis
I don't see how this is can be a losing situation for us. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Sabres win the lottery.....
Do you make the pick or trade for a hefty ransom? - dadeadhead
Sabres win the lottery.....
Do you make the pick or trade for a hefty ransom? - dadeadhead
I'd only trade it if I was gonna move down a spot or 2 (tops), plus get a good young player that'll be part of our "core"
If it was Toronto, I'd prob want Marner or Nylander
Edmonton, I think I want Hall (but we'd have to throw something else in probably)
I'd want Seth Jones from Cbus, but again we'd have to add to it
Idk... Something like that anyways
I wouldn't move down lower than 3 though
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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I'd only trade it if I was gonna move down a spot or 2 (tops), plus get a good young player that'll be part of our "core"
If it was Toronto, I'd prob want Marner or Nylander
Edmonton, I think I want Hall (but we'd have to throw something else in probably)
I'd want Seth Jones from Cbus, but again we'd have to add to it
Idk... Something like that anyways
I wouldn't move down lower than 3 though - jdfitz77
Agree with this...
I wouldn't move down any farther than us not getting one of Matthews, Puljujarvi, Tkahcuk, or Laine.
I'd want young D in any deal though...
so like Reilly from Toronto
Klefbom from EDM (doubt they'd give Nurse)
Werenski from CLB (doubt they'd give up Jones after just getting him) |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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I'm with you...
If it is Matthews or Puljujarvi then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Girgensons - Eichel - Matthews/Puljujarvi
If it is Tkachuk or Laine then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Tkachuk/Laine - Eichel - Girgensons/Ennis
I don't see how this is can be a losing situation for us. - JVince11
I think that will be are pick and love it. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I'm with you...
If it is Matthews or Puljujarvi then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Girgensons - Eichel - Matthews/Puljujarvi
If it is Tkachuk or Laine then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Tkachuk/Laine - Eichel - Girgensons/Ennis
I don't see how this is can be a losing situation for us. - JVince11
Laine Will go 2nd or 3rd its it's too close to call I predict he'll have the best slap shot in the NHL better then Alex the great
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I'm with you...
If it is Matthews or Puljujarvi then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Girgensons - Eichel - Matthews/Puljujarvi
If it is Tkachuk or Laine then:
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Tkachuk/Laine - Eichel - Girgensons/Ennis
I don't see how this is can be a losing situation for us. - JVince11
I like how those lines look!
Picking top3 this year would really have us set as far as the forwards go
I've got them ordered
1) Matthews
2) Puljujarvi
3) Laine
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I think that will be are pick and love it. - cabin
If at 4 yes |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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They don't have an O'Reilly, but Boedker and Hanzal are decent pieces. I'd love to grab Boedker - sbroads24
I have wanted him for years
right now he will be a ufa
you can't teach speed |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Agree with this...
I wouldn't move down any farther than us not getting one of Matthews, Puljujarvi, Tkahcuk, or Laine. - JVince11
It would def take getting a "Hall or Jones, etc" for me to drop to 4th for Tkachuk |
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