Isn't Raonic from Yugoslavia?
- LordHumungous

Montenegro

I would never consider trading Bo until he's in his 30s. No way no how.
- Bullfrog77

We differ.

I would take Mathews Sergachev over Horvat Tanev

Montenegro
- docmorgan

Is that near Danforth?

Lu was a whiner for years here. He only changed in his last year and a half.

Does anyone remember the quote " Well I did my job" or " my contract sucks"

He also choked in big games.

Too bad he only grew up in his last year, otherwise he would have been a fan favourite
- VANTEL

Our team has had a long, long history of choking long, long before Lu got here. Was Lu a choker or was he one player on a team of 20 chokers? Lu's playoff stats are good and I don't think you can single him out for any particular playoff loss.

He's been a major factor in Fla turn around. He has them top in the Atlantic and 5th overall in the league. I think he deserves some credit for being a very good goalie.

And to be honest most NHL goalies are jerks IMO. Tom Barrasso is not an anomaly...

Our team has had a long, long history of choking long, long before Lu got here. Was Lu a choker or was he one player on a team of 20 chokers? Lu's playoff stats are good and I don't think you can single him out for any particular playoff loss.

He's been a major factor in Fla turn around. He has them top in the Atlantic and 5th overall in the league. I think he deserves some credit for being a very good goalie.

And to be honest most NHL goalies are jerks IMO. Tom Barrasso is not an anomaly...
- bloatedmosquito

Florida haven't played in a SCF or second round PO game. When they get there we will see if he chokes.

Canucks may have had a roster 19 other chokers but lu made it 20

Florida haven't played in a SCF or second round PO game. When they get there we will see if he chokes.

Canucks may have had a roster 19 other chokers but lu made it 20
- VANTEL

I don't consider Lu a playoff choker or the twins or Nasland or Linden. They all didn't get it done in the playoffs because of a number of different factors.

IMO choking wasn't one of those factors.

Hamhuis doesn't fit their style of play.
- LordHumungous

What are you talking about? It's a great fit. Hamhuis and Trotz have a solid past from their days in NASH and they play a very structured system. They aren't an aggressive offensive team they just have loads of talent.

We differ.

I would take Mathews Sergachev over Horvat Tanev
- VANTEL

Risky but probably worth it to get Matthews, I assume you mean that Edm would of already won the lottery for 1st overall?

I think Sergachev looks like a good prospect but still a pretty big risk he ever becomes as good as Tanev.

I know you are a in a rush for this team to bottom out but I think moving Tanev creates a big hole and one that is not easily filled.

Trading Edler makes a lot more sense imo than moving Tanev.

I was a season ticket holder during Lu's time in Van. To be honest I don't remember one instance where Lu was booed at Rogers. I remember when Lu got the hook one night and Schneids got a huge cheers when he got on the ice but that's not the same as booing your team's #1 goalie.
- bloatedmosquito

I was a ticket holder in the nosebleeds. I remember him being booed up on my level in the playoffs vs Nashville in 2011 after he'd given up a breakaway goal. I couldn't believe it.

I don't consider Lu a playoff choker or the twins or Nasland or Linden. They all didn't get it done in the playoffs because of a number of different factors.

IMO choking wasn't one of those factors.
- bloatedmosquito

2 shutouts in the SCF suggest he's not a choker IMO.

I guess my question would be...when has he ever been counted on, by anyone....at any time for points? His best offensive seasons he was less then 40 points. Yet he was chosen by team canada to represent this country in the Olympics. Did they do that because of his amazing offensive abilities? Nope it's always been about how he plays without the puck for hamhuis. He hasn't deteriorated near as much as you think. He was just playing on a crap team with a poop partner every night. He will get a first and a prospect ... You can take that to the bank. If he doesn't I won't mention how poopty. Edler is until the end of the season.
- Bullfrog77

Wow I'm agreeing again with you.
The people who don't like hammer should look At his fancy stats. Top pairing numbers in shots for/against as well as goals for/against. He doesn't get points but he prevents them from being raked up against the team.

What are you talking about? It's a great fit. Hamhuis and Trotz have a solid past from their days in NASH and they play a very structured system. They aren't an aggressive offensive team they just have loads of talent.
- CanuckDon

Hamhuis doesn't score goals so he's useless. This is what I've been told.

The Caps are the second in the league for goals scored so it's not an issue. If I was a GM or coach of that team I would want as much Defensive depth as possible. I agree with you Hamhuis is a great fit for a playoff bound washington team.

Hamhuis doesn't score goals so he's useless. This is what I've been told.

The Caps are the second in the league for goals scored so it's not an issue. If I was a GM or coach of that team I would want as much Defensive depth as possible. I agree with you Hamhuis is a great fit for a playoff bound washington team.
- bloatedmosquito

Agreed, it's the most logical fit. Plus Orpik is injured and their D core is pretty young after him. A veteran D man who is solid in his own end and can move the puck is exactly what they need. The Caps don't need the offense.

2 shutouts in the SCF suggest he's not a choker IMO.
- golfingsince

100%. His playoff stats are respectable and doesn't implicate him being a playoff choker.

I think hockey fans of losing teams have a tendency to place blame where they can. Whether it's the reffing, commissioner or one of his lackeys, the coach, the team's captain, european players, the team's goalie, the ice conditions, the schedule, the game's broadcaster, etc. The blame list never ends.

After years of disappointment I’ve come to the realization that my team was never good enough to win the stanley cup. Hopefully that will change with this regime but I ain’t holding my breath.

100%. His playoff stats are respectable and doesn't implicate him being a playoff choker.

I think hockey fans of losing teams have a tendency to place blame where they can. Whether it's the reffing, commissioner or one of his lackeys, the coach, the team's captain, european players, the team's goalie, the ice conditions, the schedule, the game's broadcaster, etc. The blame list never ends.

After years of disappointment I’ve come to the realization that my team was never good enough to win the stanley cup. Hopefully that will change with this regime but I ain’t holding my breath.
- bloatedmosquito

I honestly think they were good enough in 2011, circumstance dictated they lose in game 7. In 1994, the Rags were a great team.

2 shutouts in the SCF suggest he's not a choker IMO.
- golfingsince

The blowouts in games 3-4 and 6 of that same series would suggest otherwise my friend. Yes Gary and Colin Campbell put the screws to us but all Lou really had to do was steal one game in Boston. Schneider should have started game 6 in Boston but with AV there was no way that was ever happening.

The blowouts in games 3-4 and 6 of that same series would suggest otherwise my friend. Yes Gary and Colin Campbell put the screws to us but all Lou really had to do was steal one game in Boston. Schneider should have started game 6 in Boston but with AV there was no way that was ever happening.
- LordHumungous

We scored 8 goals in 7 games, blame it on the goalie all you want.

Hamhuis doesn't score goals so he's useless. This is what I've been told.

The Caps are the second in the league for goals scored so it's not an issue. If I was a GM or coach of that team I would want as much Defensive depth as possible. I agree with you Hamhuis is a great fit for a playoff bound washington team.
- bloatedmosquito

I think Dallas would be a good fit for Hamhuis as well. Based on the Sekera trade last year I would trade Hamhuis for Oleksiak and a 1st.

We scored 8 goals in 7 games, blame it on the goalie all you want.
- golfingsince

We also ran into one of the hottest goalies in SCF history in Thomas.

We scored 8 goals in 7 games, blame it on the goalie all you want.
- golfingsince

Can't win games scoring 1 goal a game. Gets proven over and over again.

We also ran into one of the hottest goalies in SCF history in Thomas.
- belcherbd

Exactly.

Risky but probably worth it to get Matthews, I assume you mean that Edm would of already won the lottery for 1st overall?

I think Sergachev looks like a good prospect but still a pretty big risk he ever becomes as good as Tanev.

I know you are a in a rush for this team to bottom out but I think moving Tanev creates a big hole and one that is not easily filled.

Trading Edler makes a lot more sense imo than moving Tanev.
- belcherbd

Yes if EDm win lottery

Edler wouldn't waive to go to Edm

We differ.

I would take Mathews Sergachev over Horvat Tanev
- VANTEL

How would you feel if those guys flame out? Happens all the time. We know Bo is gonna be real solid....the future captain I have no doubt. Tanev I would move for the right price. It's too big a risk.

(frank) me !!! If Edmonton wins the lottery again I'm bulldozing their new building to te ground

I think Dallas would be a good fit for Hamhuis as well. Based on the Sekera trade last year I would trade Hamhuis for Oleksiak and a 1st.
- fiveandagame

The first would be nice but I think Oleksiak is pretty overrated, he has consistently been leapfrogged by other prospects and is only in the NHL because of his waiver eligibility.

He is a very soft 6 7 and 250 lbs.

Dallas does have a lot other D prospects that would be interesting though. Johns, Honka, Jokipakka or even Nemeth.