How would you feel if those guys flame out? Happens all the time. We know Bo is gonna be real solid....the future captain I have no doubt. Tanev I would move for the right price. It's too big a risk.
- Bullfrog77

It is exactly this type of thinking the reason why Edmonton is in the funk they are in. You need to give to get. If you want something good then you need to give something good.

This is the reason why I wanted JB to trade BO + to get the first overall for AE.

How would you feel if those guys flame out? Happens all the time. We know Bo is gonna be real solid....the future captain I have no doubt. Tanev I would move for the right price. It's too big a risk.
- Bullfrog77

Hey trading Bo is a big risk. I think drafting Mathews is like drafting Tavares. Same could be said about any draft pick ever made. Sometimes they don't reach their potential.

I don't think Canucks will ever win a cup if Tanev Edler are top pairing

Yes if EDm win lottery

Edler wouldn't waive to go to Edm
- VANTEL

I agree but he would maybe go to Ottawa, Pit, Tampa, Was, Det.

I don't think Bo and Tanev get Mathews anyways.

A lot of teams would be able to put together a better package I think.

Our team has had a long, long history of choking long, long before Lu got here. Was Lu a choker or was he one player on a team of 20 chokers? Lu's playoff stats are good and I don't think you can single him out for any particular playoff loss.

He's been a major factor in Fla turn around. He has them top in the Atlantic and 5th overall in the league. I think he deserves some credit for being a very good goalie.

And to be honest most NHL goalies are jerks IMO. Tom Barrasso is not an anomaly...
- bloatedmosquito

I agree with this.
If lou was a playoff choker he wouldnt possess an olympic GOLD medal.

I would think with how badly comments like that got around it would be a big reason he wanted out of here.

It is exactly this type of thinking the reason why Edmonton is in the funk they are in. You need to give to get. If you want something good then you need to give something good.

This is the reason why I wanted JB to trade BO + to get the first overall for AE.
- Linden_4_Capt

Yeah because that was ever going to happen. No one walks away from a franchise changeing defenseman. And edmobtons had all the first overalls so how is it the kind of thinking that's kept them in their funk? They have had best player available for 5 years. No edmontons issue was much deeper then that

We scored 8 goals in 7 games, blame it on the goalie all you want.
- golfingsince

Allowed 8 goals in game three 4 goals in game four and five goals in gm 6 for a grand total of 18 goals allowed in 3 games in BOS. Yes the scoring dried up but that's a choke plain and simple math. Lou played well in the NSH and SJ series that year but was in choke mode vs CHI and BOS. We were damn lucky to get past CHI in that first round. Not putting it all on Lou but his choking was a huge factor.

Sure he had some shutout gems in that run but still...having to score more than 20 goals on the road in the SCF to win 3 games is ridiculous.

Yeah because that was ever going to happen. No one walks away from a franchise changeing defenseman
- Bullfrog77

Up until the very last week of the draft that pick was in the play and Talon was openly trying to trade it.

Allowed 8 goals in game three 4 goals in game four and five goals in gm 6 for a grand total of 18 goals allowed in 3 games in BOS. Yes the scoring dried up but that's a choke plain and simple math. Lou played well in the NSH and SJ series that year but was in choke mode vs CHI and BOS. We were damn lucky to get past CHI in that first round. Not putting it all on Lou but his choking was a huge factor.

Sure he had some shutout gems in that run but still...having to score more than 20 goals on the road in the SCF to win 3 games is ridiculous.
- LordHumungous

How did Schneider do vs Chicago?

The Canucks just had to grab a lead in any of the games in Boston or game 7 for that matter. Lu stole 3 games that series already, that's not enough?

I agree with this.
If lou was a playoff choker he wouldnt possess an olympic GOLD medal.

I would think with how badly comments like that got around it would be a big reason he wanted out of here.
- SMBDragon

Fair enough but remember the Americans scored with less than two minutes left to send that to OT and much of that goal could be considered a Lou choke as well.

Just damn luck Crosby was able to put one through Miller before they got one past Lou.

Hey trading Bo is a big risk. I think drafting Mathews is like drafting Tavares. Same could be said about any draft pick ever made. Sometimes they don't reach their potential.

I don't think Canucks will ever win a cup if Tanev Edler are top pairing
- VANTEL

Totally agree on Tanev and Edler. But we can keep Bo and still get sergaychev. I'm not sold that Matthews is going to be that great.

The John Scott show is on in Nashville.

Here's a look at what's up this All-Star Weekend for Daniel Sedin and our two ex-Canucks, Luongo and Schneider.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...ll-Star-Weekend/194/74383

Up until the very last week of the draft that pick was in the play and Talon was openly trying to trade it.
- Linden_4_Capt

No lol he said that....but he knew no one would pay his price, it was astronomical.

Allowed 8 goals in game three 4 goals in game four and five goals in gm 6 for a grand total of 18 goals allowed in 3 games in BOS. Yes the scoring dried up but that's a choke plain and simple math. Lou played well in the NSH and SJ series that year but was in choke mode vs CHI and BOS. We were damn lucky to get past CHI in that first round. Not putting it all on Lou but his choking was a huge factor.

Sure he had some shutout gems in that run but still...having to score more than 20 goals on the road in the SCF to win 3 games is ridiculous.
- LordHumungous

That was because AV was an idiot compared to julien. Badly outcoached in chicago and boston....LA too while we're at it.

Could easily have done AV's classic lose 4 straight, if not for Lou and some great players elevating their play. Ref's clearly handed it over to boston though

Fair enough but remember the Americans scored with less than two minutes left to send that to OT and much of that goal could be considered a Lou choke as well.

Just damn luck Crosby was able to put one through Miller before they got one past Lou.


- LordHumungous

so that was ALL on lou but the OT was lucky ??

He bested miller and everyone else in the olympics. How is being the best a choke?

How did Schneider do vs Chicago?

The Canucks just had to grab a lead in any of the games in Boston or game 7 for that matter. Lu stole 3 games that series already, that's not enough?
- golfingsince

Obviously not. We just see it different. I agree that Lou played well in the homes games (except gm7) to steal them but he choked out three straight games in Bos. The shoulda would could thing on scoring first means nothing. He was rattled in the CHI and the BOS series and it showed and he has a small history of it. It is what is.

That was because AV was an idiot compared to julien. Badly outcoached in chicago and boston....LA too while we're at it.

Could easily have done AV's classic lose 4 straight, if not for Lou and some great players elevating their play. Ref's clearly handed it over to boston though
- SMBDragon

fair points.

Lou played very well at times yes...but also rattled and choked us out of quite a few games. I hope he is past all that with FLA but I just can't see it.

I agree with this.
If lou was a playoff choker he wouldnt possess an olympic GOLD medal.

I would think with how badly comments like that got around it would be a big reason he wanted out of here.
- SMBDragon

He choked in the Olympics actually. That tying goal was 100% his fault. That OT winner in game 6 of first round where he flopped in his belly and gave an open net?

The blowouts in games 3-4 and 6 of that same series would suggest otherwise my friend. Yes Gary and Colin Campbell put the screws to us but all Lou really had to do was steal one game in Boston. Schneider should have started game 6 in Boston but with AV there was no way that was ever happening.
- LordHumungous

And the two games he stole via shutout. ........ discounted why?

Allowed 8 goals in game three 4 goals in game four and five goals in gm 6 for a grand total of 18 goals allowed in 3 games in BOS. Yes the scoring dried up but that's a choke plain and simple math. Lou played well in the NSH and SJ series that year but was in choke mode vs CHI and BOS. We were damn lucky to get past CHI in that first round. Not putting it all on Lou but his choking was a huge factor.

Sure he had some shutout gems in that run but still...having to score more than 20 goals on the road in the SCF to win 3 games is ridiculous.
- LordHumungous

You mean the game where Rome decked Horton in a scoreless first period only to have the Bruins pour in 4 goals each of the following two periods? Yeah, that one's on Lu.

Fair enough but remember the Americans scored with less than two minutes left to send that to OT and much of that goal could be considered a Lou choke as well.

Just damn luck Crosby was able to put one through Miller before they got one past Lou.


- LordHumungous

It was Miller who choked in that game. That crosby goal was a garbage goal and better positioning by the goaltender would have easily stopped that shot.

Yet Lu get the gears for that game. go figure.

I honestly think they were good enough in 2011, circumstance dictated they lose in game 7. In 1994, the Rags were a great team.
- golfingsince

Maybe but that Burrows OT goal against Chi was sure gift wrapped. If it wasn't for Lu and that huge save on the Hawks power play in OT...