Yes it has it's flaws. But where do you want to be in three years? Still holding on to Edler or with some youngsters coming? All teams will be squeezed by the cap shrinking. We will beable to eat contracts from teams having to dump. Take a pick and say a Matt Carle type move. STIll have a vet but you've added to the asset pool. Rinse and repeat. Wait for that guy you really want to have and Pay him ! It won't change where this team is in the standings atm. But it will speed up our process
- Bullfrog77

Even if a pick and a Matt Carle type was on the table (Which I have no idea why a team would overpay so much for such a liability that everyone thinks Edler is) would Edler waive his NTC.

Demko nominated for Hobbie Baker. 8 th shut out of the year
- VANTEL

Yes it has it's flaws. But where do you want to be in three years? Still holding on to Edler or with some youngsters coming? All teams will be squeezed by the cap shrinking. We will beable to eat contracts from teams having to dump. Take a pick and say a Matt Carle type move. STIll have a vet but you've added to the asset pool. Rinse and repeat. Wait for that guy you really want to have and Pay him ! It won't change where this team is in the standings atm. But it will speed up our process
- Bullfrog77

Edler has a full NTC, he's also stated he doesn't want to be traded, so it's definitely a hurdle in trying to move him. Also, management is clearly still trying to make the playoffs, which lends itself to them NOT moving their best defenceman.

Regardless of how good he is around the league, he's the best the Canucks have in terms of what he gives them. So the reality is, with them chasing the playoffs, he's not going to be moved.

I'm all for trading him for youth or picks, given the state of the team, but it's highly unlikely. So no matter how much some would like to see him and his brain fart's gone, I would say it's extremely unlikely.

How a player celebrates a goal in hockey is the sole determination of the person's character. Remember Ovi's burning stick or Hertl's fourth goal celebration? (frank) the old guard and their reserved ways.

I love the Phoenix Open for that very reason.
- bloatedmosquito

You must really love Cam Newton then.

Alright, I've noticed you've dodged my question about Tanev/sbisa Hutton/bart being our new top4, who replaces Edler?
- neem55

Can't we get 2 more Bartowksi's to replace him?

People are actually saying Edler is useful?

He is worthless and does nothing to help this team win. He sucks defensively, can't shoot the puck through traffic and turns the puck over non stop. He plays a lot of minutes, that doesn't mean he eats minutes. He pukes them up all over the ice and let's other teams have the puck.

He has regressed constantly the past 3 years, he isn't and never will be the player everyone said he would be. Trade him while he still has value.
- Scooby_Doo

Coulda used you earlier. Been surrounded by the pro Edler camp.

Coulda used you earlier. Been surrounded by the pro Edler camp.
- Bullfrog77

You obviously don't recognize subtle trolling do you?

Edler is one player of 750 or so in the NHL. If we traded him for say a first , and roster capable dman of lesser value. Say 2-3 mil a season. That's 2 mil cap saving added to our what ? Projected 18 mil we will have for next season. Do none of you see how the bulk of the defence could be rebuilt into a much better unit with several first round picks and 20 mil in spending money? It's really not rocket science.
- Bullfrog77

Who do you take in UFA that is better than Edler but also the same cost, let alone cheaper? Nobody that'd who. Anyone better in UFA will be 7-8mil/season and frankly, not worth the money.

Even if a pick and a Matt Carle type was on the table (Which I have no idea why a team would overpay so much for such a liability that everyone thinks Edler is) would Edler waive his NTC.
- fiveandagame

Absoloutly. You can get people to waive. Just depends on how much pressure you need to apply.

Edler has a full NTC, he's also stated he doesn't want to be traded, so it's definitely a hurdle in trying to move him. Also, management is clearly still trying to make the playoffs, which lends itself to them NOT moving their best defenceman.

Regardless of how good he is around the league, he's the best the Canucks have in terms of what he gives them. So the reality is, with them chasing the playoffs, he's not going to be moved.

I'm all for trading him for youth or picks, given the state of the team, but it's highly unlikely. So no matter how much some would like to see him and his brain fart's gone, I would say it's extremely unlikely.
- LeftCoaster

For whatever reason a portion of the fan base needs a player to unload on at the end of the day. Luongo's been traded, Higgins has been sent to the minors and Prust has been sent to the press box. I guess Edler was next in line.

Edler has a full NTC, he's also stated he doesn't want to be traded, so it's definitely a hurdle in trying to move him. Also, management is clearly still trying to make the playoffs, which lends itself to them NOT moving their best defenceman.

Regardless of how good he is around the league, he's the best the Canucks have in terms of what he gives them. So the reality is, with them chasing the playoffs, he's not going to be moved.

I'm all for trading him for youth or picks, given the state of the team, but it's highly unlikely. So no matter how much some would like to see him and his brain fart's gone, I would say it's extremely unlikely.
- LeftCoaster

By the deadline we will be well out of the playoff hunt, with him playing 28 mins a night. We end up bottom five I bet it wouldn't be so hard to sell him on a trade in the summer.

Absoloutly. You can get people to waive. Just depends on how much pressure you need to apply.
- Bullfrog77

Why trade him. Just send him to Utica and then the team can start their Stanley Cup run. Apparently the only thing between the Canucks and the cup is the boat anchor Edler.

I'll try this from a different angle. Do any of you see Edler as a player that will get us to a cup final ? You all say he's good. Fine...by the time this team is even close to being playoff calibre again Edler will be old busted worthless junk. We've rebuilt the bulk of the forwards why not maximize our assets and cap space and do the same with the defence ? You all complain on here about holding on to players too long and getting a garbage return. That's exactly what you are campaigning for in keeping Edler. He's never reached potential and has already regressed in play. Move him now before he brings nothing back. Build the new core !!!

- Bullfrog77

Good does not equal great. You know nothing of hockey. Edler has his faults, but unless we magically draft drew doughty next season, he is not easily replaced. Yes we can throw money at byfuglien and offer 8x7 like he will want on the open market. But i highly doubt that helps. In reality that hinders us as in 2-3 years we will be wishing we never signed him. A 27 year old Dan Hamhuis is not available every UFA season for us to get a home town discount for.

Who do you take in UFA that is better than Edler but also the same cost, let alone cheaper? Nobody that'd who. Anyone better in UFA will be 7-8mil/season and frankly, not worth the money.
- Retinalz

Why do you have to take anyone this year? We are at the bottom now with him. We can just as easily be at the bottom without him. That's the point. Same old same old isn't getting it done. Move him create flexibility save some money , hell give weber 25 mins a night. Who cares...were at the bottom?? Start building our new team now.

By the deadline we will be well out of the playoff hunt, with him playing 28 mins a night. We end up bottom five I bet it wouldn't be so hard to sell him on a trade in the summer.
- Bullfrog77

Although unlikely he'd accept, I'd be all for it, just being realistic.

By the deadline we will be well out of the playoff hunt, with him playing 28 mins a night. We end up bottom five I bet it wouldn't be so hard to sell him on a trade in the summer.
- Bullfrog77

Honestly. Who will replace him in the lineup that will make the team better?

Heard a rumor about hammer to the pens? Can anyone of you Gus shine some clarity on that? Roughly what he would cost?

Why trade him. Just send him to Utica and then the team can start their Stanley Cup run. Apparently the only thing between the Canucks and the cup is the boat anchor Edler.
- fiveandagame

Do you think before you post? Cause that's a really stupid comment.

Who do you take in UFA that is better than Edler but also the same cost, let alone cheaper? Nobody that'd who. Anyone better in UFA will be 7-8mil/season and frankly, not worth the money.
- Retinalz

It's not about next year, it's about three to five years down the road. If they're honest with themselves.

You obviously don't recognize subtle trolling do you?
- DariusKnight

I'm not trolling at all. Totally believe Edler is useless, just like I said for years Higgins was useless. They are on the same level unfortunately.

Demko nominated for Hobbie Baker. 8 th shut out of the year
- VANTEL

Stud get him in Utica next season Benning. Make the promise that if he performs your willing to move a goalie(Miller) provided he is NHL ready at any time before TDL.

Good does not equal great. You know nothing of hockey. Edler has his faults, but unless we magically draft drew doughty next season, he is not easily replaced. Yes we can throw money at byfuglien and offer 8x7 like he will want on the open market. But i highly doubt that helps. In reality that hinders us as in 2-3 years we will be wishing we never signed him. A 27 year old Dan Hamhuis is not available every UFA season for us to get a home town discount for.
- Retinalz

That kind of thinking is why the maple leafs have been on a 22 year re-tool !

Why do you have to take anyone this year? We are at the bottom now with him. We can just as easily be at the bottom without him. That's the point. Same old same old isn't getting it done. Move him create flexibility save some money , hell give weber 25 mins a night. Who cares...were at the bottom?? Start building our new team now.
- Bullfrog77

You're really Kevin Lowe aren't you??

That kind of thinking is why the maple leafs have been on a 22 year re-tool !
- Bullfrog77

And your kind of thinking is why Edmonton going for yet another lottery pick.