Honestly. Who will replace him in the lineup that will make the team better?
- fiveandagame

Better then what? Were going to be bottom 5 in the league? Why pay him 5 mil to still end up at the bottom? Why do we need to keep an overpaid underperforming d man when we will be at the bottom of the standings the next few years anyway? We can turn him into a pick and a prospect and save money. Yes we still will be bad. But bad with more pieces and flexibility to take a step forward.

Heard a rumor about hammer to the pens? Can anyone of you Gus shine some clarity on that? Roughly what he would cost?
- Brownsoldier

A first round pick You don't have anymore

Why do you have to take anyone this year? We are at the bottom now with him. We can just as easily be at the bottom without him. That's the point. Same old same old isn't getting it done. Move him create flexibility save some money , hell give weber 25 mins a night. Who cares...were at the bottom?? Start building our new team now.
- Bullfrog77

Because at this point,if nothing else, Edler eats minutes and is allowing younger players like Hutton to develop without being under such scrutiny. You trade him and now you have gone full Oilers on your D and every mistake Hutton, etc make will be discussed in the same way we discuss Edler. We have nobody better than Edler, and if we get rid of him we need a new Vet whipping boy. Hammer won't resign to be it, Tanev won't be it. There are more aspects to finding that #1 than throwing them into the fire like you seem to suggest.

Heard a rumor about hammer to the pens? Can anyone of you Gus shine some clarity on that? Roughly what he would cost?
- Brownsoldier

Sid's first born.

That kind of thinking is why the maple leafs have been on a 22 year re-tool !
- Bullfrog77

Your kind of thinking is why the oilers have 4x 1OA in their line-up and thier best dman is a prospect.

And your kind of thinking is why Edmonton going for yet another lottery pick.
- fiveandagame

I said this same thing before I read your post.

And your kind of thinking is why Edmonton going for yet another lottery pick.
- fiveandagame

If they could get a good young dman and a good pick it'd be worth it for sure.

Better then what? Were going to be bottom 5 in the league? Why pay him 5 mil to still end up at the bottom? Why do we need to keep an overpaid underperforming d man when we will be at the bottom of the standings the next few years anyway? We can turn him into a pick and a prospect and save money. Yes we still will be bad. But bad with more pieces and flexibility to take a step forward.
- Bullfrog77

Ok fine, I'm on board. Let's dump Edler for a pick sign Justin Shultz in the offseason for a mill, give him Edlers minutes, save some money and go full Oiler.

While I know the team is going to have a few lean years coming up I really don't want the highlight of the season to be draft day every year. That would be depressing as hell.

Ok fine, I'm on board. Let's dump Edler for a pick sign Justin Shultz in the offseason for a mill, give him Edlers minutes, save some money and go full Oiler.

While I know the team is going to have a few lean years coming up I really don't want the highlight of the season to be draft day every year. That would be depressing as hell.
- fiveandagame

Edler would fetch a sizeable return! I don't see them trading him but the return would be good.

If they could get a good young dman and a good pick it'd be worth it for sure.
- LeftCoaster

The young guys need some level of insulation while they are trying to get adjusted to the NHL. If we trade Edler and Hamuis for picks and prospects there will be nobody left. A top paring of Sbisa and Tanev?.Hutton at 3 in his sophomore year? This has Oil written all over it.

Because at this point,if nothing else, Edler eats minutes and is allowing younger players like Hutton to develop without being under such scrutiny. You trade him and now you have gone full Oilers on your D and every mistake Hutton, etc make will be discussed in the same way we discuss Edler. We have nobody better than Edler, and if we get rid of him we need a new Vet whipping boy. Hammer won't resign to be it, Tanev won't be it. There are more aspects to finding that #1 than throwing them into the fire like you seem to suggest.
- Retinalz

That's you're opinion. Any one can step up and surprise you don't know any of that. Wha we do know ....were at the bottom with him.

Edler would fetch a sizeable return! I don't see them trading him but the return would be good.
- LeftCoaster

I agree, but there would have to be a plan to replace him in the top pairing.

Edler would fetch a sizeable return! I don't see them trading him but the return would be good.
- LeftCoaster

I don't think anybody is against moving him for a good return. Whereas Jeremiah has toned down a bit on his rhetoric today, he has been advocating here that we'd be better off with the cap space and anybody else eating his minutes.

There's no need to dump the guy.

Your kind of thinking is why the oilers have 4x 1OA in their line-up and thier best dman is a prospect.
- Retinalz

Still a brighter future then what we have. They can trade any of those forwards for pieces. What can we trade? Burrows? Hamhuis? I think I'd rather have a bunch of great young pieces that don't fit so well together to build a team with then our played out garbage

I don't think anybody is against moving him for a good return. Whereas Jeremiah has toned down a bit on his rhetoric today, he has been advocating here that we'd be better off with the cap space and anybody else eating his minutes.

There's no need to dump the guy.
- golfingsince

Of course not, he's a good player when on, and terrible when off.

Still a brighter future then what we have. They can trade any of those forwards for pieces. What can we trade? Burrows? Hamhuis? I think I'd rather have a bunch of great young pieces that don't fit so well together to build a team with then our played out garbage
- Bullfrog77

Every year after the Oilers draft another 1st overall we hear about "this is the year we finally Turn it around" and they Continue to spin their wheels. If it wasn't for the oilers I would probably be in favour of a full scale tear down, but their level of continual suckage makes me a little gun shy.

I don't think anybody is against moving him for a good return. Whereas Jeremiah has toned down a bit on his rhetoric today, he has been advocating here that we'd be better off with the cap space and anybody else eating his minutes.

There's no need to dump the guy.
- golfingsince

He is the best chip we have to play to speed up our rebuild. I see no downside to loseing the minutes he plays, like I said we are nt at rock bottom yet but it's coming up fast. Take the pick and prospect/ or an established nhl d man. Pocket the money if there is no option you like fill out the d with journeyman and perhaps a 1st rounder. Let em play and be ready to jump. If we got a first for hammer an Vrbata. And say we move Edler at the draft for a 1st and a decent younger dman with some promise. You're looking at 4 first round picks this year. Probably 2-3 mil cap savings from Edlers deal plus the boatload we have from everyone else. You have to be able to see the benefit to making a move like this now....rather then waiting 3 more years right?

Every year after the Oilers draft another 1st overall we hear about "this is the year we finally Turn it around" and they Continue to spin their wheels. If it wasn't for the oilers I would probably be in favour of a full scale tear down, but their level of continual suckage makes me a little gun shy.
- fiveandagame

It's funny that everyone thinks that in order to rebuild you need a complete teardown.

Every year after the Oilers draft another 1st overall we hear about "this is the year we finally Turn it around" and they Continue to spin their wheels. If it wasn't for the oilers I would probably be in favour of a full scale tear down, but their level of continual suckage makes me a little gun shy.
- fiveandagame

Just because the oilers orginization is a poop show doesn't make it an unviable venue to improve. Would you like to be where Florida is right now? And is going to be for a long time? I sure would.

He is the best chip we have to play to speed up our rebuild. I see no downside to loseing the minutes he plays, like I said we are nt at rock bottom yet but it's coming up fast. Take the pick and prospect/ or an established nhl d man. Pocket the money if there is no option you like fill out the d with journeyman and perhaps a 1st rounder. Let em play and be ready to jump. If we got a first for hammer an Vrbata. And say we move Edler at the draft for a 1st and a decent younger dman with some promise. You're looking at 4 first round picks this year. Probably 2-3 mil cap savings from Edlers deal plus the boatload we have from everyone else. You have to be able to see the benefit to making a move like this now....rather then waiting 3 more years right?
- Bullfrog77

Maybe had you taken a reasonable approach like this to begin with you wouldn't have people jumping down your throat. On several blogs you've ranted how we just need to get rid of him regardless of the return, and then have made it worse by trying to defend that position.

I can't think of one fan that is so attached to Edler that they'd be pissed if he was moved in a good deal. Where you lose people is when you go on about how useless he is and that we're better off just by not having him.

It's funny that everyone thinks that in order to rebuild you need a complete teardown.
- golfingsince

Everyone doesn't. We do. Ten years at the top and nothing coming up from the farm. We are stalled out. And need to start from the bottom

Maybe had you taken a reasonable approach like this to begin with you wouldn't have people jumping down your throat. On several blogs you've ranted how we just need to get rid of him regardless of the return, and then have made it worse by trying to defend that position.

I can't think of one fan that is so attached to Edler that they'd be pissed if he was moved in a good deal. Where you lose people is when you go on about how useless he is and that we're better off just by not having him.
- golfingsince

My position has always been the same. He needs to go for us to grow. Yes I get very pissed off watching him play sometimes. But as an asset we could do a lot more with what we get for him , then we would keeping him.

Just because the oilers orginization is a poop show doesn't make it an unviable venue to improve. Would you like to be where Florida is right now? And is going to be for a long time? I sure would.
- Bullfrog77

The oilers show what could happen if the tank rebuild is not done properly. That is what scares me trading both Edler and Hamhius for picks. There is nobody to replace them and the team loses worse next year, which is great for draft position but does nothing positive for the young guys we currently have on the team that are playing well.

Maybe had you taken a reasonable approach like this to begin with you wouldn't have people jumping down your throat. On several blogs you've ranted how we just need to get rid of him regardless of the return, and then have made it worse by trying to defend that position.

I can't think of one fan that is so attached to Edler that they'd be pissed if he was moved in a good deal. Where you lose people is when you go on about how useless he is and that we're better off just by not having him.
- golfingsince

I can think of one fan that was this attached to Edler, but it was the other end of the spectrum.

Bullfrog is bizzaro-Fosco.

I can think of one fan that was this attached to Edler, but it was the other end of the spectrum.

Bullfrog is bizzaro-Fosco.
- fiveandagame

Fosco doesn't count simply because he was just as attached to Jordan Schroeder.