Oh, but I thought it was Bylsma's fault Crosby only won one Cup? But scratch that, because according to you Pittsburg didn't win the Cup. Or is it everyone except Bylsma gets credit for that Cup?
- Wetbandit1

He was 1 and done every time they made the playoffs his two best players in the game there's no excuse

F the habs

"So this is what it's like to be a leafs fan..." - From the Montreal facebook page


- chilliard77

2014/15 Sabres after 51 games

15-33-3
33 points
97 goals for
181 goals against


2015/16 Sabres after 51 games

21-26-4
46 points
118 goals for
138 goals against

Added note: 14/15 Sabres ended with 54 total points (15 ROW, Sabres have 19 ROW already this year)
- stashu

so last year there was an 84 goal differential

this year 20 goal differential



big strides and the already played the harder part of the schedule


This team is not far off from competing for 8th in the east

but nowhere near a blueprint for a consistent top 4 team in the east

I will have a hard time with Puljujarvi . Saying and spelling it .
- cabin

just call him pepe le pew, and play him with the other skunk

So why would you take a goalie???

Elite scorers and Norris defenseman are the players you go after first. Not a goaltender.
- Stripes77

first goalie drafted in 2006, Jonathan Bernier (11th overall)
2007, Joel Gistedt (36th)
2008, Chet Pickard (18th)
2009, Mikko Koskinen (31st)
2010, Jack Campbell (11th)


wait til 4th rd on to take a goalie, and draft 1 every year

He was 1 and done every time they made the playoffs his two best players in the game there's no excuse
- gerbe75pts

234 4/15/09 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-1 1 1
235 4/17/09 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 OT: Bill Guerin scored at 18:29 1 2
236 4/19/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers L 3-6 1 3
237 4/21/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers W 3-1 1 4
238 4/23/09 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins L 0-3 1 5
239 4/25/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers W 5-3 Pittsburgh won series, 4-2 1 6
240 5/2/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals L 2-3 2 1
241 5/4/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals L 3-4 2 2
242 5/6/09 Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 OT: Kris Letang scored at 11:23 2 3
243 5/8/09 Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins W 5-3 2 4
244 5/9/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals W 4-3 OT: Evgeni Malkin scored at 3:28 2 5
245 5/11/09 Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-5 OT: David Steckel scored at 6:22 2 6
246 5/13/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals W 6-2 Pittsburgh won series, 4-3 2 7
247 5/18/09 Carolina Hurricanes Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 3 1
248 5/21/09 Carolina Hurricanes Pittsburgh Penguins W 7-4 3 2
249 5/23/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Carolina Hurricanes W 6-2 3 3
250 5/26/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Carolina Hurricanes W 4-1 Pittsburgh won series 3 4
251 5/30/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings L 1-3 4 1
252 5/31/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings L 1-3 4 2
253 6/2/09 Detroit Red Wings Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-2 4 3
254 6/4/09 Detroit Red Wings Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-2 4 4
255 6/6/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings L 0-6 4 5
256 6/9/09 Detroit Red Wings Pittsburgh Penguins W 2-1 4 6
257 6/12/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings W 2-1 Pittsburgh won series, 4-3 to capture team's third Stanley Cup championship 4 7
258 4/14/10 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-5 1 1
259 4/16/10 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 2-1 1 2
260 4/18/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 4-2 1 3
261 4/20/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 7-4 1 4
262 4/22/10 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-4 OT: Matt Carkner scored at 47:06 1 5
263 4/24/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 4-3 OT: Pascal Dupuis scored at 9:56. Pittsburgh won series, 4-2. 1 6
264 4/30/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins W 6-3 2 1
265 5/2/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins L 1-3 2 2
266 5/4/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Montreal Canadiens W 2-0 2 3
267 5/6/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Montreal Canadiens L 2-3 2 4
268 5/8/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins W 2-1 2 5
269 5/10/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Montreal Canadiens L 3-4 2 6
270 5/12/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins L 2-5 Montreal won series, 4-3. Last game played at Mellon Arena 2 7
271 4/13/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-0 Kovalev GWG 1 1
272 4/15/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins L 1-5 Lecavalier GWG 1 2
273 4/18/11 Pittsburgh Penguins Tampa Bay Lightning W 3-2 Kennedy GWG 1 3
274 4/20/11 Pittsburgh Penguins Tampa Bay Lightning W 3-2 Neal GWG/OT 1 4
275 4/23/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins L 2-8 Lecavalier GWG 1 5
276 4/25/11 Pittsburgh Penguins Tampa Bay Lightning L 2-4 Downie GWG 1 6
277 4/27/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins L 0-1 Bergenheim, GWG 1 7
278 4/11/12 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-4 OT: Jakub Voracek at 2:23 1 1
279 4/13/12 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins L 5-8 Allowed 2 SHG, Giroux and Couturier each scored hat tricks. 1 2
280 4/15/12 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers L 4-8 1 3
281 4/18/12 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers W 10-3 Jordan Staal scored first career playoff hat trick. 1 4
282 4/20/12 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 Tyler Kennedy, GWG 1 5
283 4/22/12 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers L 5-1 Hartnell GWG; Flyers win series, 3-2. 1 6
284 5/1/13 New York Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins W 5-0 Bennett GWG, Fleury with sixth playoff shutout. 1 1
285 5/3/13 New York Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-3 Okposo GWG 1 2
286 5/5/13 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Islanders W 5-4 OT: Kunitz GWG, at 8:44 1 3
287 5/7/13 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Islanders L 6-4 Tavares GWG 1 4
288 5/9/13 New York Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-0 Vokoun with shutout, 31 saves. Kennedy GWG 1 5
289 5/11/13 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Islanders W 4-3 OT: Orpik GWG, at 7:49. Pittsburgh won series, 4-2. 1 6
290 5/14/13 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-1 Malkin GWG, Vokoun 35 saves. 2 1
291 5/17/13 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-3 Crosby HT, Morrow GWG 2 2
292 5/19/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators L 2-1 Greening GWG, 7:39 of second OT 2 3
293 5/22/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 7-3 Neal GWG 2 4
294 5/24/13 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 6-2 Letang GWG. Pittsburgh won series, 4-1 2 5
295 6/1/13 Boston Bruins Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-0 Krejci GWG, Rask with 29-save shutout 3 1
296 6/3/13 Boston Bruins Pittsburgh Penguins L 6-1 Horton GWG 3 2
297 6/5/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Boston Bruins L 2-1 Bergeron GWG at 35:19 of overtime 3 3
298 6/7/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Boston Bruins L 1-0 McQuiad GWG, Rask with 24-save shutout 3 4
299 4/16/14 Columbus Blue Jackets Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-3 Sutter with GWG 1 1
300 4/19/14 Columbus Blue Jackets Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-3 Calvert GWG @ 21:10 OT 1 2
301 4/21/14 Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets W 4-3 Sutter, Stempniak and Jokinen (GWG) scored in a span of 2:18. 1 3
302 4/23/14 Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets L 4-3 Nick Foligno scored OT GWG at 2:49 1 4
303 4/26/14 Columbus Blue Jackets Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-1 Jokinen scores GWG; Pens with 51 shots on goal 1 5
304 4/28/14 Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets W 4-3 Malkin hat trick and GWG, Pittsburgh won series, 4-2. 1 6
305 5/2/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-2 Brassard OT GWG @ 3:06 2 1
306 5/4/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-0 Letang GWG. Fleury 7th shutout 2 2
307 5/5/14 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Rangers W 2-0 Crosby GWG. Fleury 8th shutout 2 3
308 5/7/14 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Rangers W 4-2 Jokinen GWG 2 4
309 5/9/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins L 5-1 Brassard GWG 2 5
310 5/11/14 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Rangers L 3-1 Brassard GWG 2 6
311 5/13/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins L 2-1 Richards, GWG 2 7


43-35 playoff record

He was 1 and done every time they made the playoffs his two best players in the game there's no excuse
- gerbe75pts

Not true. He went to the playoffs six times as the Pens head coach. He went Stanley Cup, 2nd round, 1st round, 1st round, 3rd round, 2nd round. MAF was really bad in a few of those runs as well. He also won the Jack Adams in one of the years they lost in the first round(2011). Also in 2010-2011 i.e. one of the 1st round losses Crosby didn't play the entire series because of the concussion. And it's not like they got swept it went 7 games.

I don't even know why I'm defending him. I wasn't a big fan of the hire to begin with, but he's a lot better than a fairly large group on here gives him credit for. So in your line of thinking Q and Sutter aren't good because they have some of the best players playing for them even though they've won the last 4 cups combined. I really don't understand the hate for Bylsma. Is it still sour grapes because Babcock stiffed us?

first goalie drafted in 2006, Jonathan Bernier (11th overall)
2007, Joel Gistedt (36th)
2008, Chet Pickard (18th)
2009, Mikko Koskinen (31st)
2010, Jack Campbell (11th)


wait til 4th rd on to take a goalie, and draft 1 every year
- homiedclown

We were talking about a fantasy draft of established players not draft eligible rookies.

Is HBSL acting up for anyone else? It's not showing any points for tonights games, in fact the column is blank it doesn't even have the opponents.

234 4/15/09 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-1 1 1
235 4/17/09 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 OT: Bill Guerin scored at 18:29 1 2
236 4/19/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers L 3-6 1 3
237 4/21/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers W 3-1 1 4
238 4/23/09 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins L 0-3 1 5
239 4/25/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers W 5-3 Pittsburgh won series, 4-2 1 6
240 5/2/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals L 2-3 2 1
241 5/4/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals L 3-4 2 2
242 5/6/09 Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 OT: Kris Letang scored at 11:23 2 3
243 5/8/09 Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins W 5-3 2 4
244 5/9/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals W 4-3 OT: Evgeni Malkin scored at 3:28 2 5
245 5/11/09 Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-5 OT: David Steckel scored at 6:22 2 6
246 5/13/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals W 6-2 Pittsburgh won series, 4-3 2 7
247 5/18/09 Carolina Hurricanes Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 3 1
248 5/21/09 Carolina Hurricanes Pittsburgh Penguins W 7-4 3 2
249 5/23/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Carolina Hurricanes W 6-2 3 3
250 5/26/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Carolina Hurricanes W 4-1 Pittsburgh won series 3 4
251 5/30/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings L 1-3 4 1
252 5/31/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings L 1-3 4 2
253 6/2/09 Detroit Red Wings Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-2 4 3
254 6/4/09 Detroit Red Wings Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-2 4 4
255 6/6/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings L 0-6 4 5
256 6/9/09 Detroit Red Wings Pittsburgh Penguins W 2-1 4 6
257 6/12/09 Pittsburgh Penguins Detroit Red Wings W 2-1 Pittsburgh won series, 4-3 to capture team's third Stanley Cup championship 4 7
258 4/14/10 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-5 1 1
259 4/16/10 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 2-1 1 2
260 4/18/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 4-2 1 3
261 4/20/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 7-4 1 4
262 4/22/10 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-4 OT: Matt Carkner scored at 47:06 1 5
263 4/24/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 4-3 OT: Pascal Dupuis scored at 9:56. Pittsburgh won series, 4-2. 1 6
264 4/30/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins W 6-3 2 1
265 5/2/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins L 1-3 2 2
266 5/4/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Montreal Canadiens W 2-0 2 3
267 5/6/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Montreal Canadiens L 2-3 2 4
268 5/8/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins W 2-1 2 5
269 5/10/10 Pittsburgh Penguins Montreal Canadiens L 3-4 2 6
270 5/12/10 Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins L 2-5 Montreal won series, 4-3. Last game played at Mellon Arena 2 7
271 4/13/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-0 Kovalev GWG 1 1
272 4/15/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins L 1-5 Lecavalier GWG 1 2
273 4/18/11 Pittsburgh Penguins Tampa Bay Lightning W 3-2 Kennedy GWG 1 3
274 4/20/11 Pittsburgh Penguins Tampa Bay Lightning W 3-2 Neal GWG/OT 1 4
275 4/23/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins L 2-8 Lecavalier GWG 1 5
276 4/25/11 Pittsburgh Penguins Tampa Bay Lightning L 2-4 Downie GWG 1 6
277 4/27/11 Tampa Bay Lightning Pittsburgh Penguins L 0-1 Bergenheim, GWG 1 7
278 4/11/12 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-4 OT: Jakub Voracek at 2:23 1 1
279 4/13/12 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins L 5-8 Allowed 2 SHG, Giroux and Couturier each scored hat tricks. 1 2
280 4/15/12 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers L 4-8 1 3
281 4/18/12 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers W 10-3 Jordan Staal scored first career playoff hat trick. 1 4
282 4/20/12 Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-2 Tyler Kennedy, GWG 1 5
283 4/22/12 Pittsburgh Penguins Philadelphia Flyers L 5-1 Hartnell GWG; Flyers win series, 3-2. 1 6
284 5/1/13 New York Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins W 5-0 Bennett GWG, Fleury with sixth playoff shutout. 1 1
285 5/3/13 New York Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-3 Okposo GWG 1 2
286 5/5/13 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Islanders W 5-4 OT: Kunitz GWG, at 8:44 1 3
287 5/7/13 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Islanders L 6-4 Tavares GWG 1 4
288 5/9/13 New York Islanders Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-0 Vokoun with shutout, 31 saves. Kennedy GWG 1 5
289 5/11/13 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Islanders W 4-3 OT: Orpik GWG, at 7:49. Pittsburgh won series, 4-2. 1 6
290 5/14/13 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-1 Malkin GWG, Vokoun 35 saves. 2 1
291 5/17/13 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-3 Crosby HT, Morrow GWG 2 2
292 5/19/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators L 2-1 Greening GWG, 7:39 of second OT 2 3
293 5/22/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Ottawa Senators W 7-3 Neal GWG 2 4
294 5/24/13 Ottawa Senators Pittsburgh Penguins W 6-2 Letang GWG. Pittsburgh won series, 4-1 2 5
295 6/1/13 Boston Bruins Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-0 Krejci GWG, Rask with 29-save shutout 3 1
296 6/3/13 Boston Bruins Pittsburgh Penguins L 6-1 Horton GWG 3 2
297 6/5/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Boston Bruins L 2-1 Bergeron GWG at 35:19 of overtime 3 3
298 6/7/13 Pittsburgh Penguins Boston Bruins L 1-0 McQuiad GWG, Rask with 24-save shutout 3 4
299 4/16/14 Columbus Blue Jackets Pittsburgh Penguins W 4-3 Sutter with GWG 1 1
300 4/19/14 Columbus Blue Jackets Pittsburgh Penguins L 4-3 Calvert GWG @ 21:10 OT 1 2
301 4/21/14 Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets W 4-3 Sutter, Stempniak and Jokinen (GWG) scored in a span of 2:18. 1 3
302 4/23/14 Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets L 4-3 Nick Foligno scored OT GWG at 2:49 1 4
303 4/26/14 Columbus Blue Jackets Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-1 Jokinen scores GWG; Pens with 51 shots on goal 1 5
304 4/28/14 Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets W 4-3 Malkin hat trick and GWG, Pittsburgh won series, 4-2. 1 6
305 5/2/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins L 3-2 Brassard OT GWG @ 3:06 2 1
306 5/4/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins W 3-0 Letang GWG. Fleury 7th shutout 2 2
307 5/5/14 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Rangers W 2-0 Crosby GWG. Fleury 8th shutout 2 3
308 5/7/14 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Rangers W 4-2 Jokinen GWG 2 4
309 5/9/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins L 5-1 Brassard GWG 2 5
310 5/11/14 Pittsburgh Penguins New York Rangers L 3-1 Brassard GWG 2 6
311 5/13/14 New York Rangers Pittsburgh Penguins L 2-1 Richards, GWG 2 7


43-35 playoff record
- homiedclown

Homie why would you post that. ?? I have a headache just looking at that lol

Not true. He went to the playoffs six times as the Pens head coach. He went Stanley Cup, 2nd round, 1st round, 1st round, 3rd round, 2nd round. MAF was really bad in a few of those runs as well. He also won the Jack Adams in one of the years they lost in the first round(2011). Also in 2010-2011 i.e. one of the 1st round losses Crosby didn't play the entire series because of the concussion. And it's not like they got swept it went 7 games.

I don't even know why I'm defending him. I wasn't a big fan of the hire to begin with, but he's a lot better than a fairly large group on here gives him credit for. So in your line of thinking Q and Sutter aren't good because they have some of the best players playing for them even though they've won the last 4 cups combined. I really don't understand the hate for Bylsma. Is it still sour grapes because Babcock stiffed us?
- Wetbandit1

My point is ever since his so called Stanley Cup he hasn't done anything since I don't care how you write it there's no excuse he had the top 2 NHL players in the game he had a top ten defenseman he had the best shutdown Center in the game at that time and he Marc Andre Fleury who is still top ten center and he had James Neal .. he is no clue how to adjust during game situations if you wash the classic Flyers vs penguins he does not adjust game plan he just does the same poop over and over again and I got him knocked out

Homie why would you post that. ?? I have a headache just looking at that lol
- gerbe75pts

1 cup
2 first rd exits
2 second rd exits
1 3rd rd exit

Is HBSL acting up for anyone else? It's not showing any points for tonights games, in fact the column is blank it doesn't even have the opponents.
- Wetbandit1

same here

We were talking about a fantasy draft of established players not draft eligible rookies.
- Wetbandit1

I always wait til 3rd or 4th rd to take my first goalie, but take another one by the 6th rd

1 cup
2 first rd exits
2 second rd exits
1 3rd rd exit
- homiedclown

Top two centers in the name
Top shutdown Center in the game
Top 10 defenseman
Top 10 goaltender
Top 15 winger in the game
The list goes on and on there's no excuse

I always wait til 3rd or 4th rd to take my first goalie, but take another one by the 6th rd
- homiedclown

Same load up on scoring and defense

Top two centers in the name
Top shutdown Center in the game
Top 10 defenseman
Top 10 goaltender
Top 15 winger in the game
The list goes on and on there's no excuse
- gerbe75pts

Just stop. Seriously. You don't like him, fine. I hated Eric Lindros, doesn't mean he wasn't a great player. And Jordan Staal was absolutely not the top shutdown center in the game. He was probably the most overrated player on that team next to MAF. Only one team gets to win a Stanley Cup per year. that doesn't mean there are 31 bad coaches. Only 3 coaches have won the past 6 Cups. Byslma won 62.8% of his games that he coached for the penguins, Q is "only" at 53.8% win percentage. Darryl Sutter has won 547 of 1121 games, good for 48.7%. What a bum. Scotty Bowman is at 58.2%, Al Arbor is also 48.7%. Pat Burns, another example, one Cup had a 49.1% win percentage, made the playoffs in 11 of 14 years. Was he a bad coach? Jacques Martin coached some of the best players of the era in Yashin, Alfredsson, Hossa, Havlat, Chara, Redden, 47.4% and never even made it to the Cup finals. Now granted those guys coached a ton of games and Bylsma is by far the least with 401 with the Pens. But saying he's a bad coach, and there's no excuse because he has only "one" Cup with the 2 best players is just idiotic.

Just stop. Seriously. You don't like him, fine. I hated Eric Lindros, doesn't mean he wasn't a great player. And Jordan Staal was absolutely not the top shutdown center in the game. He was probably the most overrated player on that team next to MAF. Only one team gets to win a Stanley Cup per year. that doesn't mean there are 31 bad coaches. Only 3 coaches have won the past 6 Cups. Byslma won 62.8% of his games that he coached for the penguins, Q is "only" at 53.8% win percentage. Darryl Sutter has won 547 of 1121 games, good for 48.7%. What a bum. Scotty Bowman is at 58.2%, Al Arbor is also 48.7%. Pat Burns, another example, one Cup had a 49.1% win percentage, made the playoffs in 11 of 14 years. Was he a bad coach? Jacques Martin coached some of the best players of the era in Yashin, Alfredsson, Hossa, Havlat, Chara, Redden, 47.4% and never even made it to the Cup finals. Now granted those guys coached a ton of games and Bylsma is by far the least with 401 with the Pens. But saying he's a bad coach, and there's no excuse because he has only "one" Cup with the 2 best players is just idiotic.
- Wetbandit1

Jordan Staal was the top shut down Center in the game for a third line center he was probably arguably the best..
He is a terrible coach number one reason why the Penguins got rid of his ass probably every penguin fan would agree with me he changed nothing in the playoffs he didn't change his defensive game he didn't change forward lines he did nothing for the playoffs to help them win the series

Yes of course I hate that guy because I see what he has done he did the same exact poop that he does with the Pittsburgh Penguins that he did with the Olympics did not change lineups did not do anything to give the team a spark he just waved the white flag and gave up

Just stop. Seriously. You don't like him, fine. I hated Eric Lindros, doesn't mean he wasn't a great player. And Jordan Staal was absolutely not the top shutdown center in the game. He was probably the most overrated player on that team next to MAF. Only one team gets to win a Stanley Cup per year. that doesn't mean there are 31 bad coaches. Only 3 coaches have won the past 6 Cups. Byslma won 62.8% of his games that he coached for the penguins, Q is "only" at 53.8% win percentage. Darryl Sutter has won 547 of 1121 games, good for 48.7%. What a bum. Scotty Bowman is at 58.2%, Al Arbor is also 48.7%. Pat Burns, another example, one Cup had a 49.1% win percentage, made the playoffs in 11 of 14 years. Was he a bad coach? Jacques Martin coached some of the best players of the era in Yashin, Alfredsson, Hossa, Havlat, Chara, Redden, 47.4% and never even made it to the Cup finals. Now granted those guys coached a ton of games and Bylsma is by far the least with 401 with the Pens. But saying he's a bad coach, and there's no excuse because he has only "one" Cup with the 2 best players is just idiotic.
- Wetbandit1

- Sabresfan-365

What is that? I can't see it. Just the big blue box with the "?" Looks like a table for jordan Staal, but what table?

What is that? I can't see it. Just the big blue box with the "?" Looks like a table for jordan Staal, but what table?
- Wetbandit1

Most likely stats backing up that Jordan Staal was the best in the game at that time

What is that? I can't see it. Just the big blue box with the "?" Looks like a table for jordan Staal, but what table?
- Wetbandit1

Well I suck

Was supposed to be Staals adv stats compared to Mike Richards, who finished 2nd in selke voting. The defensive numbers were almost identical. Ive lost all interest in the bylsma topic but Staal was absolutely a great 2 way centre.

Jordan Staal was the top shut down Center in the game for a third line center he was probably arguably the best..
He is a terrible coach number one reason why the Penguins got rid of his ass probably every penguin fan would agree with me he changed nothing in the playoffs he didn't change his defensive game he didn't change forward lines he did nothing for the playoffs to help them win the series

Yes of course I hate that guy because I see what he has done he did the same exact poop that he does with the Pittsburgh Penguins that he did with the Olympics did not change lineups did not do anything to give the team a spark he just waved the white flag and gave up
- gerbe75pts

You have nothing. Give it up already. I like how you conveniently don't have anything for any of the other coaches. He doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Most likely stats backing up that Jordan Staal was the best in the game at that time
- gerbe75pts

Best is a stretch, Datsyuk killed it those days. But he was definitely amongst the best.