It's up to above 7 now. So he's right around where he usually will be
- sbroads24

I expect it to rise still, maybe not much but his career is 8.7% while the two previous have been below that, it is still higher than where he is now. 2 games without a goal and he is below 7 again.

He is scoring just fine. His assist totals are disappointing but in a healthy lucky year he is looking at 25+ and in a non healthy unlucky year (this year) he still has a chance at 20.

We only have 9 spots in our top9

The 4mil it'll cost us for him should be put towards defense
McGinn is ok, but he's not a 20-25 goal scorer either
- jdfitz77

Ok?

Kane has so much potential but he just can't seem to put more points on the board. Now he's taking up fighting I suppose to try to add that physical element to his game. I don't think that's where he belongs in his role on the Sabres...

Girgs to IR.
- chilliard77

Girgensons is now officially injury prone.. Oh brother...

Kane has so much potential but he just can't seem to put more points on the board. Now he's taking up fighting I suppose to try to add that physical element to his game. I don't think that's where he belongs in his role on the Sabres...
- JetsAvs

Im assuming you never payed attention to him while he was in the peg then?

I think he is just fine. His assist total is pretty low this year but if he can stay healthy and score at the rate he is, be a good posession player while taking more defensive starts than offensive ones, be our best forechecker all while beating a few guys up along the way he is worth every penny.

Girgensons is now officially injury prone.. Oh brother...
- bluengold12

Has anyone said what it is?

Seems like this one came out of nowhere.

Im not so sure it will be that much compared to the rest of the league in a season or two. Players are getting more and more money every year. I think you could make an exception for him to be paid slightly higher than your average third line player. Hes versatile enough and young enough to be a valuable piece moving forward.
- MCGUIZZY

I don't know about that could be much different this year depending on where the cap is. The stamkos' will still get paid, it will be the mcginns of the league who take a substantial hit.

It sure is, if you establish that precedent 3rd liners are worth 4 million, now it will cost over 2 million extra to create that line. I like McGinn, I liked him before he was traded here, but the value isn't there for that type of money, when you're already overpaying moulsin, Gionta and Gorges.
- Mentalorgasm5

Without looking I'm pretty sure his last season is next year and Gorges is likely the year after. We're not going to be in cap trouble next year so Gionta is irrelevant if that's true. Moulson, fine.

Kane has so much potential but he just can't seem to put more points on the board. Now he's taking up fighting I suppose to try to add that physical element to his game. I don't think that's where he belongs in his role on the Sabres...
- JetsAvs

He scored, and provided a spark. That's exactly his role.

It's the difference of a half % really. Give or take a goal and he's pretty much what he is.

I have been really impressed with him lately though. He's found his groove playing the 2nd-3rd line role.
- sbroads24

Funny because that's where you, me, and some others thought he was most ideally suited playing a while ago.

We only have 9 spots in our top9

The 4mil it'll cost us for him should be put towards defense
McGinn is ok, but he's not a 20-25 goal scorer either
- jdfitz77

why is it that the sabres are always getting screwed like this?

Funny because that's where you, me, and some others thought he was most ideally suited playing a while ago.
- kingcong39

he's been skating real well and just romping all over the ice...do you think it may have took him that long to fully recover from surgery and get his confidence back, jerry?

So that about sums up how I feel about him as well.
I like his play and the fact he can play up and down the lineup, which is a valuable piece to have on your team. I think he is a perfect 3rd liner, but can fill in holes due to injuries on your 1st or 2nd...so that makes it acceptable to pay more than your standard 3rd line guy.
That said, if we get a 1st rounder somewhere between 20 - 25 I would be happy with that...then hope that he would come back as a FA, especially if he saw we just landed a couple of 1st rounders.
- IonSabres

I feel like the days of getting a 1st for guys like McGinn or Gaustad are long gone. Teams are smarting up and realizing that a 2nd or 3rd line guy isn't worth giving up a potential 1st or 2nd line or 1st pairing guy in the first round.

he's been skating real well and just romping all over the ice...do you think it may have took him that long to fully recover from surgery and get his confidence back, jerry?
- Michael Pachla

Kane has looked much better since he is off the top 2 lines...it did start before that move, but he has really taken it up a notch on the 3rd.
Foligno also looks better the last 5 games or so...wish he could pump a couple in to reward him and keep him going.

So I guess with these 3 losses, GMTM must be now leaning towards the seller side of the equation. I don't see us winning too many soon with Girgs and Larsons down..although maybe Bailey comes in a sparks something?

Wilbon was just bashing Kane for being in three fights in the game and said they should both be out for a while. What an idiot. These guys probably watch 2-5 games a year. Go back to spending 24/7 about basketball

Has anyone said what it is?

Seems like this one came out of nowhere.
- ieetbred

No I said it. Guy seems to get injured every ten games... I'm starting to wonder if it's better off trading him while he still has a high ceiling for a high end D prospect.

Without looking I'm pretty sure his last season is next year and Gorges is likely the year after. We're not going to be in cap trouble next year so Gionta is irrelevant if that's true. Moulson, fine.
- Zschalberg

Gionta has one year after this year, and Gorges has 2 years after this year. I think they want to be fighting for a playoff spot next year, giving 4 million to McGinn isn't the way to do it. Moulson and Gionta will be at best 3rd liners next year, so all this is relevant since McGinn plays wing and would be slated on line 3. He is an average player, nothing too special, the way the roster is constructed, there isn't room for him on the team.

Funny because that's where you, me, and some others thought he was most ideally suited playing a while ago.
- kingcong39

Yup, and he's flourishing. I think getting one of those Finn wingers would go a long way

I feel like the days of getting a 1st for guys like McGinn or Gaustad are long gone. Teams are smarting up and realizing that a 2nd or 3rd line guy isn't worth giving up a potential 1st or 2nd line or 1st pairing guy in the first round.
- bluengold12

Eh, I think it depends on the circumstances of each team. Those who are aging and feel their window is small maybe willing to up the ante for that last shot. Teams who are young and building prolly don't want to waste a future asset.
Somebody normally overpays, I think McGinn is intriguing to some teams.

Now, if you really want to get that first, and make it decent in the selection sequence...package a 2nd with him ... that gets a hot team to pay more, hopefully resulting in that 20 -25 range.
I do think that is what Murray is thinking in terms of getting another 1st rounder...he has tried unsuccessfully at the Draft by packaging a couple of 2nds alone..,that isn't enough....trade deadline emotions could cause a GM to go for it.

I feel like the days of getting a 1st for guys like McGinn or Gaustad are long gone. Teams are smarting up and realizing that a 2nd or 3rd line guy isn't worth giving up a potential 1st or 2nd line or 1st pairing guy in the first round.
- bluengold12

That day never existed. People always bring up gaustad for a 1st and forsberg for erat.

Those are perhaps the two worst deadline deals of the last 10 years. I don't understand why people use those as benchmarks for trading a player of McGinn's caliber. Realistically we will get a 3rd for him, if we're lucky a 2nd.

McGinn will get traded if he and his agent think he can make more on the open market that the Sabres are offering. Agents are often right.
Unless you're Fransons agent.

Gaustad and a fourth got us a 1st.

McGinn and a 3rd?(we got three of them)….Or may be take back a contract?...to a bubble team that's desperate for "that edge?" not out of the question.
…And to be clear, I'd rather have him on this team than not. But if he has an opportunity to hit pay dirt, I don't blame him. He should just be sold to the highest bidder.

Girgensons is now officially injury prone.. Oh brother...
- bluengold12

It's why I laugh when some people on here think he is gonna get a 5 million a year contract or something in that range. He's gonna get a 2 year 4.5 million total bridge deal. You don't pay guys like him 5 million a year. Good player but you need that money for scorers and stud D.

It's why I laugh when some people on here think he is gonna get a 5 million a year contract or something in that range. He's gonna get a 2 year 4.5 million total bridge deal. You don't pay guys like him 5 million a year. Good player but you need that money for scorers and stud D.
- Fattony1187

Agreed. He could still become one. Another year will tell.

That day never existed. People always bring up gaustad for a 1st and forsberg for erat.

Those are perhaps the two worst deadline deals of the last 10 years. I don't understand why people use those as benchmarks for trading a player of McGinn's caliber. Realistically we will get a 3rd for him, if we're lucky a 2nd.
- Mentalorgasm5

If Stewart got us a 2nd, McGinn will do the same. A first won't happen unless we add, and I think we have the pieces we're willing to part with to do it.

If Stewart got us a 2nd, McGinn will do the same. A first won't happen unless we add, and I think we have the pieces we're willing to part with to do it.
- sskkoo1