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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
Stewart was a former 30 goal scorer, McGinn has never cracked the 20s, I think some are really overvalueing McGinn trade value.
- Mentalorgasm5



I think he gets us a 2nd
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 10 @ 7:50 PM ET
Top9 for the future
O'Reilly
Eichel
Reinhart
Kane
Girgensons
This year's Draft Pick (most likely)

That's 6, without question
Ennis
Larsson
Foligno

Is McGinn really worth spending 4mil per to keep Foligno or Larsson on the 4th line?
And we have a TON of forward prospects with top9 potential
So even if u do want Foligno &/or Larsson on the 4th line, we'd only need 2 of those guys to work out

That 4mil would be better spent going towards a defenseman

- jdfitz77


Thank you, that's my point when I say there is no room for him. Since next year both Gionta and moulson are under contract.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:51 PM ET
gotta think him and baily are fixtures after the deadline, when legwand and mcginn are moved
- homiedclown



Dont think Bailey is ready to play here consistently
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 10 @ 7:52 PM ET
I think he gets us a 2nd
- jdfitz77

He very might, however, that's the highest return we get, Gaborik only a 3rd and a 5th, I just don't think a 2nd is a lock.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:54 PM ET
Top9 for the future
O'Reilly
Eichel
Reinhart
Kane
Girgensons
This year's Draft Pick (most likely)

That's 6, without question
Ennis
Larsson
Foligno

Is McGinn really worth spending 4mil per to keep Foligno or Larsson on the 4th line?
And we have a TON of forward prospects with top9 potential
So even if u do want Foligno &/or Larsson on the 4th line, we'd only need 2 of those guys to work out

That 4mil would be better spent going towards a defenseman

- jdfitz77



Sorry to say but Thats a stretch to say that our 1st round pick (unless its Matthews) will step into the league next season. And no we dont have a TON of forward prospects that are that promising.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:55 PM ET
Stewart was a former 30 goal scorer, McGinn has never cracked the 20s, I think some are really overvalueing McGinn trade value.
- Mentalorgasm5


Maybe, but a 2nd round pick will be in the 45-60 range. What's the odds of a player picked in that area becoming a solid NHLer < 20%. For a team that wants to add a solid winger for a cup run, than I think McGinn fits right in that price tag, especially if more than one team wants him.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 8:13 PM ET
Sorry to say but Thats a stretch to say that our 1st round pick (unless its Matthews) will step into the league next season. And no we dont have a TON of forward prospects that are that promising.
- MCGUIZZY


The 2 Finn wingers aren't NHL ready?
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM ET
The 2 Finn wingers aren't NHL ready?
- kingcong39

I would think they are. Laine has a pro level shot and puljujarvi has pro level speed and hands. Not to mention they are both big boys.
JetsAvs
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:28 PM ET
Im assuming you never payed attention to him while he was in the peg then?

I think he is just fine. His assist total is pretty low this year but if he can stay healthy and score at the rate he is, be a good posession player while taking more defensive starts than offensive ones, be our best forechecker all while beating a few guys up along the way he is worth every penny.

- ieetbred


I actually did watch him play a lot in winnipeg but I never saw him really fitting in there. When he was injured it seemed like the team played a lot better. Don't get me wrong, when he was scoring and putting up points we loved seeing him on the ice.
I'm glad to hear he's working out for the Sabres, I wasn't really sure how the fans felt about him there. I do expect that he will be part of a solid team in the near future, you guys have a great core that will start winning with a few more pieces and age.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 8:48 PM ET
Dont think Bailey is ready to play here consistently
- MCGUIZZY

agreed, I meant for the last few weeks of this season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 9:02 PM ET
I didn't think he was that big . I was mistaken .
- cabin

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 10 @ 9:08 PM ET
I would think they are. Laine has a pro level shot and puljujarvi has pro level speed and hands. Not to mention they are both big boys.
- zdp1189


Matthews and the three wingers are NHL ready. Depending on which team gets him maybe Chychrun too.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 10 @ 9:24 PM ET
Matthews and the three wingers are NHL ready. Depending on which team gets him maybe Chychrun too.
- Sabresfan-365


Sucks Tkachuk is in OHL could be ready for AHL I think Nylander will play in the AHL/NHL as well
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 10 @ 9:27 PM ET
Murray screws up the Moulson deal by giving him 5 years at 5 per but has an issue with term on McGinn? Doesn't make sense.
- mhp


Maybe learning from his mistakes? I don't know. That's just what I got out of what he was saying.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 10 @ 9:48 PM ET
I liken McGinn to a Jochen Hecht type player maybe not quite the same offense, but not really that far off either. A type of player that makes more contributions to the team than just scoring goals and isn't always the flashy guy on the ice. And Hecht was signed to a 4 year $14.1 million which he signed at age 30 in 2007 when the salary cap was only $50.3 million.
- Wetbandit1


Did you take this from Briere? He said McGinn reminds him of Hect today on hockey hotline.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:23 PM ET
Matthews and the three wingers are NHL ready. Depending on which team gets him maybe Chychrun too.
- Sabresfan-365

Who is the 3D winger: Laine Puljujaarvi and _________?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:38 PM ET
A bit, but I LIKE YOUR LINE OF THINKING,
- IonSabres



I'd do McGinn + Fasching for Drouin
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:39 PM ET
Who is the 3D winger: Laine Puljujaarvi and _________?
- Der Kaiser



Tkachuck
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:41 PM ET
Sorry to say but Thats a stretch to say that our 1st round pick (unless its Matthews) will step into the league next season. And no we dont have a TON of forward prospects that are that promising.
- MCGUIZZY



Yes we do
Not top line promising, but 3rd line? Sure
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:44 PM ET
Does anyone think Girgensons plus maybe another prospect or pick get us any of

Shea Theodore, Travis Sanheim, Michael Matheson, Madison Bowey or Samuel Morin

I think if we can get one of these players it could really turn us into an eventual powerhouse.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:58 PM ET
Does anyone think Girgensons plus maybe another prospect or pick get us any of

Shea Theodore, Travis Sanheim, Michael Matheson, Madison Bowey or Samuel Morin

I think if we can get one of these players it could really turn us into an eventual powerhouse.

- bluengold12

Probably not, blue-chip prospects like that usually aren't traded unless it's for a bigger piece or another blue-chip prospect.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:58 PM ET
Sorry to say but Thats a stretch to say that our 1st round pick (unless its Matthews) will step into the league next season. And no we dont have a TON of forward prospects that are that promising.
- MCGUIZZY



I didn't say anything about NEXT season, but any of the top4 forwards can likely play in the NHL next season

Going by
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/buffalo_sabres/

7. Second-Line Forward/ No. 3-4 Defenseman / Journeyman No. 1 Goaltender – players not quite good enough to play on the top line or pairing on a regular basis, but still possessing enough talent to contribute offensively, defend with some authority, or competently play the goaltender’s position for long stretches

We have NINE guys with a score of 7 or better that are still prospects
And another 9 with a score of 6 or 6.5, which for them equates to 3rd line talent

Now...
Of course not all of these will hit, but my point is that we only need a couple of them to bc we already have at least 5 or 6 guys locked in for years
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 10:59 PM ET
Does anyone think Girgensons plus maybe another prospect or pick get us any of

Shea Theodore, Travis Sanheim, Michael Matheson, Madison Bowey or Samuel Morin

I think if we can get one of these players it could really turn us into an eventual powerhouse.

- bluengold12

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:59 PM ET
Probably not, blue-chip prospects like that usually aren't traded unless it's for a bigger piece or another blue-chip prospect.
- chilliard77



I'd offer Fasching + for a top defensive prospect
Especially if we get one of the top forwards in this draft
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:01 PM ET
Probably not, blue-chip prospects like that usually aren't traded unless it's for a bigger piece or another blue-chip prospect.
- chilliard77


Girgensons is a former 1st round pick. Only four years ago. And has a lot of potential. Maybe we can get Michael Matheson or Madison Bowey for him straight up or one of the others for him plus a 2nd or 3rd.
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