I'd offer Fasching + for a top defensive prospect
Especially if we get one of the top forwards in this draft
- jdfitz77

fasching and all 3 3rds to the ducks for Shea Theodore

throw in foligno if needed


then draft 2 guys up front in the first 2 rds

nothing but euros 4th rd on

Girgensons is a former 1st round pick. Only four years ago. And has a lot of potential. Maybe we can get Michael Matheson or Madison Bowey for him straight up or one of the others for him plus a 2nd or 3rd.
- bluengold12

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/redraft/2012/

fasching and all 3 3rds to the ducks for Shea Theodore

throw in foligno if needed


then draft 2 guys up front in the first 2 rds

nothing but euros 4th rd on
- homiedclown

I wouldn't hate any of that
Although I don't think we need to take a forward in round 2. I'd go defense

I wouldn't hate any of that
Although I don't think we need to take a forward in round 2. I'd go defense
- jdfitz77

Fashing Girgensons for Theadore Take top winger in 1st and BPA in 2nd

Fashing Girgensons for Theadore Take top winger in 1st and BPA in 2nd
- bluengold12

You seem eager to trade Girgensons
Any reason?

I know u have to give to get, but he's not a guy I wanna move
I'd do Fasching + Larsson maybe

Did you take this from Briere? He said McGinn reminds him of Hect today on hockey hotline.
- bluengold12

No, but that's pretty funny. I'm not awake until noon. I was just trying to think who was a versatile player with similar comparable.

Edit: Typo

Fashing Girgensons for Theadore Take top winger in 1st and BPA in 2nd
- bluengold12

Theodore will replace whichever one of vatanen/lindholm get moved.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/redraft/2012/
- homiedclown

I'm assuming they're drafting for "need" and not talent, because some of those picks are pretty out there. Gostisbehere at 30 is plain ridiculous. And no way does Trouba go ahead of Forsberg.

I'm assuming they're drafting for "need" and not talent, because some of those picks are pretty out there. Gostisbehere at 30 is plain ridiculous. And no way does Trouba go ahead of Forsberg.
- Wetbandit1

Gostisbehere is a late bloomer.

You seem eager to trade Girgensons
Any reason?

I know u have to give to get, but he's not a guy I wanna move
I'd do Fasching + Larsson maybe
- jdfitz77

I just look at for a few reasons. 1. He's an RFA and we have to give him a new contract. If we work out a bridge type deal which seem to be less common nowadays that's one thing but if we have to give him 3-5 years and he continues on the play level we've seen of him he's going to be a waste of a roster space and worse no trade value. 2. He's incredibly injury prone. I know it's part of his style of play but others who play his style have managed to stay much healthier. You start to get to the point where it's like "Oh Girgensons is out again? How long this time?..." 3. He doesn't fit in anymore into our top 6. He can be a quality 3rd liner I think but for where we drafted him that shouldn't be his role in the NHL. Conversely this team and prospect pool is full of third liner type players. If we can trade him now and get a D prospect or young player for him I'd seriously consider it.

I just look at for a few reasons. 1. He's an RFA and we have to give him a new contract. If we work out a bridge type deal which seem to be less common nowadays that's one thing but if we have to give him 3-5 years and he continues on the play level we've seen of him he's going to be a waste of a roster space and worse no trade value. 2. He's incredibly injury prone. I know it's part of his style of play but others who play his style have managed to stay much healthier. You start to get to the point where it's like "Oh Girgensons is out again? How long this time?..." 3. He doesn't fit in anymore into our top 6. He can be a quality 3rd liner I think but for where we drafted him that shouldn't be his role in the NHL. Conversely this team and prospect pool is full of third liner type players. If we can trade him now and get a D prospect or young player for him I'd seriously consider it.
- bluengold12

How doesn't he got into our top6
Bylsma said yesterday that he plans on keeping him with Eichel for a while
He's really the only guy that has been able to find some chemistry with Jack so far
If he ends up being our 3rd line center, then we're in pretty good shape up front

Injuries to guys like him & Kane don't bother me so much
Like u said, it comes with that style of play
As long as they can play 80% of the regular season & are around for the playoffs, then I'm happy

As far as contract goes, he's not gonna cost us too much on this next deal. And I think we'd be better off signing him to as long a term as we can, bc if he stays on Eichel's wing then he's gonna score a lot more than he has this season. Could be quite the steal for us.

I'm not opposed to trading him,
But it better be for a heck of a defenseman

If it's just for a prospect,
Then i'd rather give up a prospect ourselves, like Fasching

I just look at for a few reasons. 1. He's an RFA and we have to give him a new contract. If we work out a bridge type deal which seem to be less common nowadays that's one thing but if we have to give him 3-5 years and he continues on the play level we've seen of him he's going to be a waste of a roster space and worse no trade value. 2. He's incredibly injury prone. I know it's part of his style of play but others who play his style have managed to stay much healthier. You start to get to the point where it's like "Oh Girgensons is out again? How long this time?..." 3. He doesn't fit in anymore into our top 6. He can be a quality 3rd liner I think but for where we drafted him that shouldn't be his role in the NHL. Conversely this team and prospect pool is full of third liner type players. If we can trade him now and get a D prospect or young player for him I'd seriously consider it.
- bluengold12

To pretty much everything you said.

To pretty much everything you said.
- seedy

We're all entitled to our opinion. I think Girgensons is hurt too much and inconsistent and on a cup team he wouldn't be on their top 6. If the goal is to get to the cup Girgensons could be a very good 3rd liner. I'm not ready to just give up on the guy but selling while he still has trad-ability would be smart if Murray is not confident he doesn't fit into the long term plan here. Out of all the guys here who can be moved he's certainly the one that would bring back the greatest return. That's a fact.
Bottom line is I'm not saying he's a terrible player but for when he was drafted and how much potential he was suppose to have he's largely not living up to it and getting injured so frequently is a big part of that.

How doesn't he got into our top6

- jdfitz77

Eichel Reinhart O'Riley Kane.

That's a solid four guys out of a top 6 that will be in my prediction tops of the league in a few years. If we draft in the top 4 or 5 we will likely be getting the 5th guy for that top 6. That leaves one spot open. Could Girgensons fill it? I guess he could but I think we could stand to do better if and I stress if he continues at his current production and injury level. I don't want to trade him for nothing but I have no idea what his trade value would be. If we wanted to get a top 5-10 defensive prospect whose almost ready or a year or two away from being a steady top four defenceman I'm not so sure other teams would think Girgensons is the type of player they'd want in return. I could be wrong but just a hunch.

Gostisbehere is a late bloomer.
- buffalofan19

That's true, there's no date for when they did the redraft, it could've been at the beginning of the season. And then I'd agree with them. Thanks for pointing that out.

We're all entitled to our opinion. I think Girgensons is hurt too much and inconsistent and on a cup team he wouldn't be on their top 6. If the goal is to get to the cup Girgensons could be a very good 3rd liner. I'm not ready to just give up on the guy but selling while he still has trad-ability would be smart if Murray is not confident he doesn't fit into the long term plan here. Out of all the guys here who can be moved he's certainly the one that would bring back the greatest return. That's a fact.
Bottom line is I'm not saying he's a terrible player but for when he was drafted and how much potential he was suppose to have he's largely not living up to it and getting injured so frequently is a big part of that.
- bluengold12

Why do so many people say that about guys on this team? News flash, we're not a cup team, and we won't be for at least a few years, so if you can get a guy for 3 or 4 years at $1.5-$1.75 per I'd say do it. You can't give up on guys after 2 and a half years. I realize the Kings have won, but look at them with Simmonds and Moulson. They gave up on them way too early. Moulson went on to score 30 goals 3 straight times. And was on pace for a career year before he got hurt, he had 44 points in 47 games. And then, well then he came here, but that's not his fault. Simmonds was much the same, he had decent numbers for the Kings and then had back to back to back career years with the Flyers.

Why do so many people say that about guys on this team? News flash, we're not a cup team, and we won't be for at least a few years, so if you can get a guy for 3 or 4 years at $1.5-$1.75 per I'd say do it. You can't give up on guys after 2 and a half years. I realize the Kings have won, but look at them with Simmonds and Moulson. They gave up on them way too early. Moulson went on to score 30 goals 3 straight times. And was on pace for a career year before he got hurt, he had 44 points in 47 games. And then, well then he came here, but that's not his fault. Simmonds was much the same, he had decent numbers for the Kings and then had back to back to back career years with the Flyers.
- Wetbandit1

There's also TONS of guys you could say the reverse about
Guys teams held onto thinking they'd become more than they ever did
I can think of quite a few Sabres actually that fit

I wouldn't hate trading Girgensons, but it would have to be for a very good young defenseman
And I'd prefer to keep him
Especially since it's looking like he's got nice chemistry with Eichel

Trade Deadline:
Gorges for a pick or porspect
McGinn for a pick or prospect
(Look at Pirri from FLA)

in the off season:

Girgensons and a 3rd for a d-man.
Ennis and a 3rd for a d-man.
Trade for the rights to Yandle.
Bogosian+Foligno+3rd to Edmonton for Eberle.
Pysyk+picks to TBL for Drouin.

Add
2-dmen
Yandle
Eberle
Drouin
Top 3 pick.

Yandle
Risto
D-man(Girgs)
D-man(Ennis)
Franson
McCabe

Girgensons and "waste of roster space" should never happen in the same sentence. Ever....

Trade Deadline:
Gorges for a pick or porspect
McGinn for a pick or prospect
(Look at Pirri from FLA)

in the off season:

Girgensons and a 3rd for a d-man.
Ennis and a 3rd for a d-man.
Trade for the rights to Yandle.
Bogosian+Foligno+3rd to Edmonton for Eberle.
Pysyk+picks to TBL for Drouin.

Add
2-dmen
Yandle
Eberle
Drouin
Top 3 pick.

Yandle
Risto
D-man(Girgs)
D-man(Ennis)
Franson
McCabe
- ImThatGuy

Not gonna lie, I hate pretty much this entire thing. Yandle will end up costing too much and end up dead weight at some point. He's older than the prototypical player that Murray has gone after as well.

I also want nothing to do with Drouin. He's done nothing but whine and complain pretty much since he's been drafted. Pass.

Eberle hasn't been able to make Edmonton that good with a very good group of forwards. Why would he make any other kind of difference here?

Anyone read Lucic's player tribute?

I could help but laugh at this part when he was talking about being traded and his wife on social media:

"I’m texting my mom. I’m texting my wife. Honestly, she was on Twitter more than I was. She’s reporting back like, “Well this guy says you’re definitely being traded, but his profile picture is just a dog? Might be a random guy.”

The profile picture with a dog was EK...

http://www.theplayerstrib...-letter-to-boston-bruins/

Girgensons and "waste of roster space" should never happen in the same sentence. Ever....
- HonkFortheGoose

Agree. Wouldn't be surprised if he came back too soon. Also, doubtful they trade Yandle now with the McDonagh injury.

Agree. Wouldn't be surprised if he came back too soon. Also, doubtful they trade Yandle now with the McDonagh injury.
- sippyd

I get the feeling Yandle stays in NY. He probably could get more money on the open market, but I think he likes the idea of being on a contender at this point.

Trade Deadline:
Gorges for a pick or porspect
McGinn for a pick or prospect
(Look at Pirri from FLA)

in the off season:

Girgensons and a 3rd for a d-man.
Ennis and a 3rd for a d-man.
Trade for the rights to Yandle.
Bogosian+Foligno+3rd to Edmonton for Eberle.
Pysyk+picks to TBL for Drouin.

Add
2-dmen
Yandle
Eberle
Drouin
Top 3 pick.

Yandle
Risto
D-man(Girgs)
D-man(Ennis)
Franson
McCabe
- ImThatGuy

It's not a video game dude

It's not a video game dude
- jdfitz77

I suppose you would have said the same if two years ago i said
Trade For
Evander kane
Zach bogosian
Ryan O'Reilley
Jaime McGinn
(Draft top 3)

It may not happen, but those are the things i would look at doing.