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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 12 @ 7:10 PM ET
Maybe that's a good thing?...perhaps they'll allow another compliance buyout!!
- landros 2

I think they would have to allow one at the very least. A few teams would otherwise have to make some very bad trades to get cap compliant.

If the cap drops by 4mil but we get to buyout AMac that's still a win for us.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:11 PM ET
just because

The 6 Canadian teams make up around 50% of total league revenues.

- KINGKENZO



Our whole economy is centered around the price of oil....the drop has been a kick n the gonads....but honestly the only time I notice is travelling to the US...have a disney trip next week ths costing me 5 gs more just for the hotel....for the rest of the Canadian economy a strong US dollar is a good thing...
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 12 @ 7:40 PM ET
Seriously? Back to the Future III is a PG movie. Hide the children.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:42 PM ET
Our whole economy is centered around the price of oil....the drop has been a kick n the gonads....but honestly the only time I notice is travelling to the US...have a disney trip next week ths costing me 5 gs more just for the hotel....for the rest of the Canadian economy a strong US dollar is a good thing...
- landros 2


I love it. I rock a 12 mpg American pickup hoooooraahh Never thought it would affect a dam hockey league
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:43 PM ET
Seriously? Back to the Future III is a PG movie. Hide the children.
- Mononoke


I'm guessing you think there was nothing wrong with the gesture taking place in it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:43 PM ET
just because

The 6 Canadian teams make up around 50% of total league revenues.

- KINGKENZO


That's astounding
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 12 @ 7:48 PM ET
I'm guessing you think there was nothing wrong with the gesture taking place in it.
- ob18


C'mon....It's a child indicating he has to use the bathroom. It just humorously and creepily slipped past the editors.

Ok ok. I will let it alone.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:02 PM ET
Devils and Rags on the weekend schedule Hammar. You ready to acquire 4 points!?
- PLindbergh31


i'm ready. the team most likely is not. i'm expecting 1 point.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:06 PM ET
Yup. No Cap Problems

Jimmy Murphy
‏@MurphysLaw74

Told by an NHL & NHLPA source that 2016-17 cap could go down as much as $4 million. If true, interested in what that does to trade deadline

- Jsaquella


overblown. hyperbole. they'll still make all the moves they want.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:17 PM ET
I'm guessing you think there was nothing wrong with the gesture taking place in it.
- ob18

You guys are far too harsh with the modding here and that instance is a perfect example. That's as pg as it gets.

I motion the refs to ban the skateboarding win gif as the skater is not wearing the proper padding.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
i'm ready. the team most likely is not. i'm expecting 1 point.
- hammarby31

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:24 PM ET

- KINGKENZO


yeah, probably. (frank)in' smails.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:26 PM ET
Yup. No Cap Problems

Jimmy Murphy
‏@MurphysLaw74

Told by an NHL & NHLPA source that 2016-17 cap could go down as much as $4 million. If true, interested in what that does to trade deadline

- Jsaquella

if that does happen are they going to give amnesty buyouts?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 12 @ 10:04 PM ET
just because

The 6 Canadian teams make up around 50% of total league revenues.

- KINGKENZO


It's more like ~30%, but yeah... still an outsized proportion. The Rogers TV deal is paid out in Canadian dollars too... so yeah... the league is in a tough spot.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 12 @ 10:12 PM ET
if that does happen are they going to give amnesty buyouts?
- 2Real


Probably not.

Teams that are at/above the cap, and players without contracts would just be screwed.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 12 @ 10:19 PM ET
Probably not.

Teams that are at/above the cap, and players without contracts would just be screwed.

- Tomahawk


Even better that the Flyers are now in a good spot cap wise. Umberger can always be bought out if they want to do things this offseason, even with the cap going down, if it does.

What a time to be (arguably) alive.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:22 PM ET
Oh Funloser you're being called out by Me! You can take your cheap shot artist Gudas and stick him up where the sun doesn't shine.


Oh by the way Foligno scored twice tonight against Montreal.

You owe an apology to the Folignos and a slap in the face to yourself.

Oh and enjoy losing for the forseeable future.

I guarantee you the Sabres will be the better team for the next decade.

- mattsox



This ones supafreakyrenko cray cray
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:30 PM ET
It's more like ~30%, but yeah... still an outsized proportion. The Rogers TV deal is paid out in Canadian dollars too... so yeah... the league is in a tough spot.
- Tomahawk

i was going to say 60
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 12 @ 10:31 PM ET
Even better that the Flyers are now in a good spot cap wise. Umberger can always be bought out if they want to do things this offseason, even with the cap going down, if it does.
- Mononoke


Yeah, it'll be a nice climate for a team like the Flyers who are basically only looking to add more high-value stop-gaps... there will only be more MDZs and Neuvirths out there if the cap drops.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 12 @ 10:42 PM ET
Yeah, it'll be a nice climate for a team like the Flyers who are basically only looking to add more high-value stop-gaps... there will only be more MDZs and Neuvirths out there if the cap drops.
- Tomahawk


A salary retained AMac would look awesome to teams too....

Flyers don't need to sign any big free agents -- call some kiddies up, sign another low risk, high reward player(s), and see what happens. Though I am interested in Demers if the Flyers pursue any mid range FAs.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 12 @ 10:57 PM ET
A salary retained AMac would look awesome to teams too....

Flyers don't need to sign any big free agents -- call some kiddies up, sign another low risk, high reward player(s), and see what happens. Though I am interested in Demers if the Flyers pursue any mid range FAs.

- Mononoke


I'd be interested in bringing Coburn back, at a reasonable number.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 12 @ 11:07 PM ET
I'd be interested in bringing Coburn back, at a reasonable number.
- Tomahawk


I wouldn't be opposed, and idk if he's being used great in Tampa, but his underlying numbers are not so hot...and he's basically the bottom pair guy in difficulty of minutes. Perhaps at 31 he is slipping a bit? I worry that he will ask for too many years and money. Last big contract. Though as recently as with the Flyers last year he was a great shutdown guy, so it could very well be other factors at play.

Demers will be 28 this summer, is firmly entrenched in Dallas's top 4 (he's pretty much carrying Oduya on that pair), and he's seeing as difficult minutes as anyone. Great underlying numbers for several years now. If I'm looking to give a 4+ year deal to someone, he has my eye. Especially bc he's righty and a good age.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:13 PM ET
I'd be interested in bringing Coburn back, at a reasonable number.
- Tomahawk


Did you see Marner's goal?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:14 PM ET
Perhaps at 31 he is slipping a bit? I worry that he will ask for too many years and money.
- Mononoke


Assuming he falls through the cracks in UFA due to the past year not going well, and they can get him on favorable terms. No interest at all in giving him a retirement contract. 2-years, ~$4M/per, max.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 12 @ 11:26 PM ET
Assuming he falls through the cracks in UFA due to the past year not going well, and they can get him on favorable terms. No interest at all in giving him a retirement contract. 2-years, ~$4M/per, max.
- Tomahawk


Yeah I mean of course that deal sounds good. I just have a feeling some team not near the cap would offer more term.
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