Tank on!!!!

"La Presse reported Friday that Carey Price has a torn medial collateral ligament in his right knee and will miss the rest of the season. Coach Michel Therrien called the report "speculation" and said the Montreal Canadiens star goalie is working hard to return to action."

Can anyone explain this style of contract to me? I just don't understand it. Is it that the Sabres are on the hook for the signing bonus in the last year of his contract but then could trade him (if he permits) to another team that only has to pay the balance of his $1M salary? Because it's still a 7.5M cap hit, right?
I just don't understand what the benefit is.
- seedy

Its buyout proof, No matter what he would be collecting his bonuses for the full amount. Bonuses are paid on July 1st no matter what.

His contract goes to 2022-23, CBA goes up to 2021-22. So the danger with a bonus heavy contract like that for teams, if the CBA is nullified earlier or is a work stoppage, ROR is getting his money no matter what

Side note

http://thehockeywriters.c...v-not-happy-in-rochester/

Looks like the Sabres will be losing their last Russian.
- bluengold12

This was bound to happen, his name was being talked about less and less. Ullmark has jumped him to back up Lehner next year. And, other goalies in the system are not far from making the jump to Rochester. Move him now for whatever we can get.

Michael Pachla: Radko "Gudas," yet another in the long line of Philly goons
- Michael Pachla

Who would be your top 10 Philly goons of all time? Serious question as curious to see who you have.

Can anyone explain this style of contract to me? I just don't understand it. Is it that the Sabres are on the hook for the signing bonus in the last year of his contract but then could trade him (if he permits) to another team that only has to pay the balance of his $1M salary? Because it's still a 7.5M cap hit, right?
I just don't understand what the benefit is.
- seedy

The cap hit is always the same, every year, regardless of how the real $$$ is paid out

What it does do is give O'Reilly a bunch of $$$ up front, which is nice for him
It also makes him more desirable should we trade him down the line, bc even though his cap # is the same, what the new team would actually have to pay him would be less
It's also desirable for a team that has a payroll cutoff but still needs to reach the cap floor

Its buyout proof, No matter what he would be collecting his bonuses for the full amount. Bonuses are paid on July 1st no matter what.

His contract goes to 2022-23, CBA goes up to 2021-22. So the danger with a bonus heavy contract like that for teams, if the CBA is nullified earlier or is a work stoppage, ROR is getting his money no matter what
- DDM-Coga

Got it. So, an incentive for him because it's money in the bank and if the Sabres need to buy him out for some reason, it's only a part of $1M that counts against the cap?
Or is it still a part of $7.5M?

Crimsoninja drinks his own pee.

Got it. So, an incentive for him because it's money in the bank and if the Sabres need to buy him out for some reason, it's only a part of $1M that counts against the cap?
Or is it still a part of $7.5M?
- seedy

bonus money counts, so even if you were trying to buy him out with 1 year left, its 6.8m cap hit. Teams save nothing buying him out.

Its a smart deal for him, basically locks him in to getting his money no matter what happens to him or with the CBA, sabres take on more risk in the later years, especially since its extends beyond the current CBA

Got it. So, an incentive for him because it's money in the bank and if the Sabres need to buy him out for some reason, it's only a part of $1M that counts against the cap?
Or is it still a part of $7.5M?
- seedy

bonus money counts, so even if you were trying to buy him out with 1 year left, its 6.8m cap hit. Teams save nothing buying him out.

Its a smart deal for him, basically locks him in to getting his money no matter what happens to him or with the CBA, sabres take on more risk in the later years, especially since its extends beyond the current CBA

bonus money counts, so even if you were trying to buy him out with 1 year left, its 6.8m cap hit. Teams save nothing buying him out.

Its a smart deal for him, basically locks him in to getting his money no matter what happens to him or with the CBA, sabres take on more risk in the later years, especially since its extends beyond the current CBA
- DDM-Coga

Yeah, I read jdfitz77's reply after responding to yours.
So basically, it was all to entice/benefit O'Rilley….which is really unfortunate now that he's a bust.

Yeah, I read jdfitz77's reply after responding to yours.
So basically, it was all to entice/benefit O'Rilley….which is really unfortunate now that he's a bust.

- seedy

Bust for multiple russian Busts trade...seems fair now

Bust for multiple russian Busts trade...seems fair now
- DDM-Coga

Agreed.

Bust for multiple russian Busts trade...seems fair now
- DDM-Coga

Looks like Grigorenko has been picking it up lately
What's the word on Zadorov?

I hate that we included Compher in that deal btw
Really like him as a player

Yeah, I read jdfitz77's reply after responding to yours.
So basically, it was all to entice/benefit O'Rilley….which is really unfortunate now that he's a bust.

- seedy

The way the CBA is, u can't really do anything to mess with the Cap now
Can't even "bury" players anymore in AHL. All but 900k of their cap hit would still count
It was rewritten to plug up all the holes that teams were previously taking advantage of

Its buyout proof, No matter what he would be collecting his bonuses for the full amount. Bonuses are paid on July 1st no matter what.

His contract goes to 2022-23, CBA goes up to 2021-22. So the danger with a bonus heavy contract like that for teams, if the CBA is nullified earlier or is a work stoppage, ROR is getting his money no matter what
- DDM-Coga

Conversation stems from A while back i posted to structure a Stamkos contract as such: 7/68.32

1 - $12MM (11MM Bonus 1MM base salary)
2 - $12MM (10MM Bonus 2MM base salary)
3 - $10.8MM ( 9MM bonus 1.8MM salary)
4 - $9.72MM (8MM bonus 1.72MM salary)
5 - $8.75MM (7MM Bonus 1.75MM salary)
6 - $7.9MM (6.5MM bonus 1.4MM salary)
7 - $7.15MM (6MM bonus 1.15MM salary)

AAV - $9.76MM

Stamkos gets $57MM of the contract paid in bonus (Less hit to the escrow as well i do believe)

Conversation stems from A while back i posted to structure a Stamkos contract as such: 7/68.32

1 - $12MM (11MM Bonus 1MM base salary)
2 - $12MM (10MM Bonus 2MM base salary)
3 - $10.8MM ( 9MM bonus 1.8MM salary)
4 - $9.72MM (8MM bonus 1.72MM salary)
5 - $8.75MM (7MM Bonus 1.75MM salary)
6 - $7.9MM (6.5MM bonus 1.4MM salary)
7 - $7.15MM (6MM bonus 1.15MM salary)

AAV - $9.76MM

Stamkos gets $57MM of the contract paid in bonus (Less hit to the escrow as well i do believe)
- ImThatGuy

I still don't buy this Stamkos thing. That McKenzie quote came from a tsn segment where he had to choose a team that wasn't already picked. And his other article mentioning the sabres only had them at the top of the list because buffalo came first alphabetically.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

I still don't buy this Stamkos thing. That McKenzie quote came from a tsn segment where he had to choose a team that wasn't already picked. And his other article mentioning the sabres only had them at the top of the list because buffalo came first alphabetically.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
- Sabresfan-365

I agree that there is no way. He is going to end up being traded. Tampa cannot get nothing back for him. He would be the greatest rental asset of all time.


But since it was in the conversation. i offer that contract if he says no, I say Good day sir.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
- Sabresfan-365

I'm not sure that's how that goes.

I know Dan won't do this but I'd like to see

Kane ORiley Reinhart
McGinn Eichel Bailey
Deslauries Folgno Gionta
Moulson Legwand Varrone

as the lines tonight.

I agree that there is no way. He is going to end up being traded. Tampa cannot get nothing back for him. He would be the greatest rental asset of all time.


But since it was in the conversation. i offer that contract if he says no, I say Good day sir.
- ImThatGuy

but how much would he actually bring back as a rental? maybe washington offers their first this year (i have absolutely no idea if they can fit him under the cap or if they even have their first)- but thats probably pick 27-30. probably the best you get is a first from a playoff team. combine a slim return for stamkos and the drouin situation and this is a rough year for yzerman.

I know Dan won't do this but I'd like to see

Kane ORiley Reinhart
McGinn Eichel Bailey
Deslauries Folgno Gionta
Moulson Legwand Varrone

as the lines tonight.
- bluengold12

IM gona guess

Kane-Legwand-Gionta
Deslauries- ROR - McGinn
Bailey-Eichel-Moulson
Foligno-Reinhart-VArrone

- cabin

my sister just sent me a picture from Kenmore….a whiteout. My first question was "do you have enough beer?"

my sister just sent me a picture from Kenmore….a whiteout. My first question was "do you have enough beer?"
- seedy

i'm in kenmore atm heading north in 3min. stopping to get more beer

Very original. You can do better, I have faith in you.
- rinaldo

That hit last night near the end of the game was bullshart all the way. Our guy was engaged with another player. The NHL is a disgrace for not even looking at it.