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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
Nice game by the Sabres. I am confused . Why do so many of your fans want to trade Foligno . Seems like the kid is finally found his game.
- Gordzilla


Because like Stafford before him he's very streaky. Will play four games like this then be awful for five then disappear for ten.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
Dude we won.

Would you rather we lose for eternity?

- mhp

Who said anything about us winning?? I'm glad we won. Doesn't mean Zach Bogosian has had anything resembling a good season.

Kane has turned it around and has been a force, Bogo has been average to below average since the season started
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
Who said anything about us winning?? I'm glad we won. Doesn't mean Zach Bogosian has had anything resembling a good season.

Kane has turned it around and has been a force, Bogo has been average to below average since the season started

- sbroads24


Bogosian was good on the last PK and once in a while has a good defensive play but the fact is he's last on the team with a -21
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
Who said anything about us winning?? I'm glad we won. Doesn't mean Zach Bogosian has had anything resembling a good season.

Kane has turned it around and has been a force, Bogo has been average to below average since the season started

- sbroads24


You're the one who nitpicked about Bogo on the Col goal. All I posted was he made a nice defensive play on the 5 on 3 to clear the zone. That's all. Bogo hasn't been that good but I don't want to send him to purgatory like you do. It is what it is this season, slow progress. And I like Kane, have since he got here. These players aren't Gretzky or Orr.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
You're the one who nitpicked about Bogo on the Col goal. All I posted was he made a nice defensive play on the 5 on 3 to clear the zone. That's all. Bogo hasn't been that good but I don't want to send him to purgatory like you do. It is what it is this season, slow progress. And I like Kane, have since he got here. These players aren't Gretzky or Orr.
- mhp

Well, I was mentioned by name in a post. I wasn't exactly going out of my way to criticize him
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
Don't disagree... But please let dreams of Stamkos die. We are deep at Center don't need another.

We need high end sniper wing and LHD.

Let's let all the other teams get dumb about Stamkos and take advantage of that distraction to purchase in our real areas of need.

- Der Kaiser



Guys like Stamkos don't come along often
When Bob McKenzie mentions us as a potential landing spot, it's not a "dream"
He doesn't pull that stuff outta thin air
Doesn't mean we'll get him,
But I'm sure Murray will try

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 14 @ 3:35 PM ET
Guys like Stamkos don't come along often
When Bob McKenzie mentions us as a potential landing spot, it's not a "dream"
He doesn't pull that stuff outta thin air
Doesn't mean we'll get him,
But I'm sure Murray will try

- jdfitz77



Except he did. it was the tsn quiz panel not an insider segment. He had to choose a team that hadn't already been picked. Said as much on twitter.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 14 @ 4:02 PM ET
Listen, I love how he's playing, but his last 3 goals have been an empty netter that hit a ref, wrist shot from the point that got a goalie pulled, and a Markov turnover where he was alone in front for a tap in.

Just saying he's got a little lucky lately

- sbroads24



Thats fair
U could also say he was a little unlucky previously though
Looks like it's starting to balance out for him
Idk that he's a 40 goal scorer,but he is a good player that will score his share of goals
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 14 @ 4:03 PM ET
Except he did. it was the tsn quiz panel not an insider segment. He had to choose a team that hadn't already been picked. Said as much on twitter.
- Sabresfan-365



Disagree
Those guys don't just say random bull crap
He could've said Vancouver, Boston, etc etc
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
Disagree
Those guys don't just say random bull crap
He could've said Vancouver, Boston, etc etc

- jdfitz77



There's no doubt they would try but it would be a waste of time IMO. It's not like he called us a contender just that it would be a good fit. Babcock scenario 2.0
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
There's no doubt they would try but it would be a waste of time IMO. It's not like he called us a contender just that it would be a good fit. Babcock scenario 2.0
- Sabresfan-365



That's fair
But he's gotta go somewhere
We make A LOT more sense than the Leafs

Most of the top contenders can't fit a guy like Stamkos

Is it likely?
Prob not
But I think we'll be in the running
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 14 @ 5:04 PM ET
There's no doubt they would try but it would be a waste of time IMO. It's not like he called us a contender just that it would be a good fit. Babcock scenario 2.0
- Sabresfan-365


I'm fine if.the Sabres don't get Stamkos ... it.isn't what he was before the injury...and lets.bid him up to screw.the Laffs...my be we could get Mariner out.of them then...I know, I know...he's young and cheap...but.one can dream!
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Feb 14 @ 5:41 PM ET
If it's for a year or 2, ok
But I'm not taking up roster spot that can be filled by a guy like Bailey
And I'm not spending 4mil (or even 3.5mil) if there's a chance we can use that $$$ towards Stamkos (or another top player)
He's a nice role player, but there are other guys who provide what he does
They aren't the exact player,
But we have plenty of toughness & leadership throughout the lineup
Not that u can't always use more...
But we should be putting our $$$ towards a top pair defenseman & a scorer
Those are our biggest needs

- jdfitz77


Since when is 20 goals chump change? There's tons of guys that make way more $ and provide less, McGinn is def worth somewhere between $3-4M.

You can't have a team filled with Stamkos type players and I for one don't want a $10M contract on our books, not when we haven't won anything yet.
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Since when is 20 goals chump change? There's tons of guys that make way more $ and provide less, McGinn is def worth somewhere between $3-4M.

You can't have a team filled with Stamkos type players and I for one don't want a $10M contract on our books, not when we haven't won anything yet.

- nikel


I'd rather have Eichel grow into our 10M player.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 14 @ 6:00 PM ET
I'd rather have Eichel grow into our 10M player.
- The_Inkwell

Agreed ! Someone is going to overpay Stamkos big time and I hopes its the Leafs.
This team needs to fix their defense 1st. If TM is gonna pay a ton for a player then grab a stud on the blue line.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Feb 14 @ 6:16 PM ET
I'd rather have Eichel grow into our 10M player.
- The_Inkwell


Exactly

And, sure Stamkos is an elite talent but he hasn't yet translated that to a cup....all the guys making $10M (Kopitar, Kane, Toews)have done just that.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 6:40 PM ET
Exactly

And, sure Stamkos is an elite talent but he hasn't yet translated that to a cup....all the guys making $10M (Kopitar, Kane, Toews)have done just that.

- nikel

And Jaime McGinn has never actually scored 20 goals yet people keep referring to him as a 20 goal scorer.

You wouldn't trade out Bogosian and McGinn for Stamkos? That's close to 10 mil right there that you could use to pay a 40 goal scorer in his prime
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 14 @ 7:11 PM ET
And Jaime McGinn has never actually scored 20 goals yet people keep referring to him as a 20 goal scorer.

You wouldn't trade out Bogosian and McGinn for Stamkos? That's close to 10 mil right there that you could use to pay a 40 goal scorer in his prime

- sbroads24


I would trade out mcginn and bogo for a 7-10 mil dollar player, im just not sure id do it for Stamkos specifically.

Personally Id be more interested in the other UFA to be on the lightning.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:18 PM ET
It is mind-numbing and boggling how blowhard some NHL analysts and mainly Canadians ones are about anointing McDavid the next Crosby and Gretzky after 20 games when he has already missed 34.

Also, how far they think the gap is between McDavid and Eichel, Larkin, Domi, Reinhart, etc. Not nearly as wide as they think.

Gare Joyce even said that he thinks every GM would take McDavid instead of having BOTH Eichel & Larkin on their team.

Just... f*ck off
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:22 PM ET
Exactly

And, sure Stamkos is an elite talent but he hasn't yet translated that to a cup....all the guys making $10M (Kopitar, Kane, Toews)have done just that.

- nikel


Ahhhh.... Ovechkin, Weber, Subban, Lundqvist, Perry, Getzlaf, & Giroux are all top 10 paid guys without rings.

I'd love Stamkos but I like ROR and Eichel at 1C and 2C. ROR said he doesn't want to play wing and neither does Stamkos
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 8:00 PM ET
I would trade out mcginn and bogo for a 7-10 mil dollar player, im just not sure id do it for Stamkos specifically.

Personally Id be more interested in the other UFA to be on the lightning.

- Sabresfan-365

A buddy of mine who has had decent info before told me that they are "100%" going after Stamkos and that that's been the plan for over a year
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 14 @ 8:08 PM ET
A buddy of mine who has had decent info before told me that they are "100%" going after Stamkos and that that's been the plan for over a year
- sbroads24


Have they learned nothing from the babcock fiasco? Should go all in on someone they have a shot at, or at least tamper and figure out if you have shot with stamkos (everyone does it, just dont get caught).
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM ET
Have they learned nothing from the babcock fiasco? Should go all in on someone they have a shot at, or at least tamper and figure out if you have shot with stamkos (everyone does it, just dont get caught).
- Sabresfan-365

I think we have a shot. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I don't think Stamkos wants to lose in Toronto for 3 years before he has a shot at a cup.

Toronto has a bright future, but they are 2 years behind us.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 14 @ 8:27 PM ET
I think we have a shot. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I don't think Stamkos wants to lose in Toronto for 3 years before he has a shot at a cup.

Toronto has a bright future, but they are 2 years behind us.

- sbroads24


All true, and all were true for babcock, but i think it comes down to where he wants to live.

Not that im interested in sparking that debate but Toronto usually wins this battle.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 8:32 PM ET
All true, and all were true for babcock, but i think it comes down to where he wants to live.

Not that im interested in sparking that debate but Toronto usually wins this battle.

- Sabresfan-365

But Babcock won before. So things like location and where his wife wanted to be is probably easier to make a priority.

I don't know, I am not hopeful, but I absolutely would go after him.

I also believe that either Stamkos or O'Reilly would have no issues moving to wing if it meant being cup contenders
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