Me thinks our GM doesn't have a problem with that. I don't either, as long as your getting the best player in the deal.
- Sabresfan-365

True, but how many times can you give up too much without severely hurting your team in the future? The overpayment can't just continue.

True, but how many times can you give up too much without severely hurting your team in the future? The overpayment can't just continue.
- doppelthat

Eventually all rebuilding teams reach a point where they deplete the futures (temporarily) so that the NHL team is ready to go. If they were willing to do it for Kane/Bogo they absolutely need to do it for Risto's partner. That's not an area where you can afford to be cheap about.

Eventually all rebuilding teams reach a point where they deplete the futures (temporarily) so that the NHL team is ready to go. If they were willing to do it for Kane/Bogo they absolutely need to do it for Risto's partner. That's not an area where you can afford to be cheap about.
- Sabresfan-365

The Florida Panthers, Dallas Stars, and Colorado Avalanche all might disagree with that statement.

The Florida Panthers, Dallas Stars, and Colorado Avalanche all might disagree with that statement.
- doppelthat

Avs aren't a contending team, not with that d-group (sorry coga)


Florida? There young guns are on the nhl team now, the prospect pool isn't exactly amazing outside of perhaps lawson crouse

Stars? Just read the other day Nichushkin and Honka are both available to help the land a big time player on D.

Even if it weren't true, just like the centre position this is not an area you want to be skimming. You get Risto a true top pairing partner and you've got something really specially for the next decade between those two and who you've got down the middle.

Edit: Our poor drafting hasn't helped either.

Avs aren't a contending team, not with that d-group (sorry coga)


Florida? There young guns are on the nhl team now, the prospect pool isn't exactly amazing outside of perhaps lawson crouse

Stars? Just read the other day Nichushkin and Honka are both available to help the land a big time player on D.
- Sabresfan-365

Never said the Avs were contenders but they are getting better without throwing away assets, perhaps even gaining assets.

The Panthers never sold away big time pieces, which is what my point was.

And with all the offensive depth the Stars have why wouldn't you trade away 3rd liners for a big time defensive guy?

Never said the Avs were contenders but they are getting better without throwing away assets, perhaps even gaining assets.

The Panthers never sold away big time pieces, which is what my point was.

And with all the offensive depth the Stars have why wouldn't you trade away 3rd liners for a big time defensive guy?
- doppelthat

How do you know they won't? They've also had the benefits of winning the lottery (could argue twice with the Barkov pick)

And hey if you can get Seguin and Spezza for pennies than you should do it, but im operating under the assumption that it won't be an option.

I don't want the sabres to overpay, but i see a spot on the top pair that is vacant and nobody within the organization or amongst the FA list that Id be comfortable in saying "yes we can win with him on our top pair".

Edit: Could end up with three 2nd's and 3 3rds for this years draft, massive trade won't really deplete as badly as it seems.

How do you know they won't? They've also had the benefits of winning the lottery (could argue twice with the Barkov pick)

And hey if you can get Seguin and Spezza for pennies than you should do it, but im operating under the assumption that it won't be an option.

I don't want the sabres to overpay, but i see a spot on the top pair that is vacant and nobody within the organization or amongst the FA list that Id be comfortable in saying "yes we can win with him on our top pair".

Edit: Could end up with three 2nd's and 3 3rds for this years draft, massive trade won't really deplete as badly as it seems.
- Sabresfan-365

I know he is still young and is still a few years from being an impact player, but do you see Guhle as a 1st pair defenseman? Or someone that is a tradeable piece to gather in a bona-fide top pair dman?

Other gm's know TM is willing to overpay, we aren't getting anybody cheap.

I know he is still young and is still a few years from being an impact player, but do you see Guhle as a 1st pair defenseman? Or someone that is a tradable piece to gather in a bona-fide top pair dman?

Other gm's know TM is willing to overpay, we aren't getting anybody cheap.
- doppelthat

Personally no. I think he can be a 2nd pairing guy Im not sure he has what it takes to be top pairing. And even then he's at least a few years away. As a tradable piece? absolutely but they may not even need to.

Even if they're not comfortable moving the 2016 1st, you could dangle 2017 1st, (or trade back into the first round in 2016 and use that) a roster player like Ennis, girgs, pysyk etc. and a good prospect and probably get the attention of the team with the d-man you want.

It will cost a lot but I don't think it would cripple us long term, especially if it is for a young top pairing d-man.

I know he is still young and is still a few years from being an impact player, but do you see Guhle as a 1st pair defenseman? Or someone that is a tradeable piece to gather in a bona-fide top pair dman?

Other gm's know TM is willing to overpay, we aren't getting anybody cheap.
- doppelthat

The market is the market. Murray got the guys he wanted.

why bother use the cash for a dman. you guys are loaded at center. you have a stamkos already his name is eichel however

I want nothing to do with Brodin

I want nothing to do with Brodin
- gerbe75pts

Why? Did he kick your dog or something?

Why? Did he kick your dog or something?
- Wetbandit1

Im going to assume it's because he's not very good (or hasn't been in some time).

Im okay with trading for him, but not as our solution for the top pair, and certainly not paying top pair price for him.

Why? Did he kick your dog or something?
- Wetbandit1

He microwaved his chicken wings and called them La Nova...

Why? Did he kick your dog or something?
- Wetbandit1

He's not good that's why .. I have no idea what happened to him hes not what he use to be I think that injury (frank) him up for life

He microwaved his chicken wings and called them La Nova...
- seedy

He's not the same player he was his rookie year

This is who we should go after.

http://www.hockeysfuture..../prospects/madison-bowey/

Doubt Washington will give him up but he'd be the perfect player we could use here. Take on one of there bad contracts I don't care but he'd be a great get. Only down side is he shoots right.

This is who we should go after.

http://www.hockeysfuture..../prospects/madison-bowey/

Doubt Washington will give him up but he'd be the perfect player we could use here. Take on one of there bad contracts I don't care but he'd be a great get. Only down side is he shoots right.
- bluengold12

I would rather try to get Julius Honka boom or bust type. Of deal

I would rather try to get Julius Honka boom or bust type. Of deal
- gerbe75pts

I feel like Bowey is a safer/more complete player. Would love Honka but we don't have what Dallas needs. Defenders, not a trade that I see possible.

Watching Kypreos teach Charles Barkley how to shoot a puck on HNIC was pretty comical

I know he is still young and is still a few years from being an impact player, but do you see Guhle as a 1st pair defenseman? Or someone that is a tradeable piece to gather in a bona-fide top pair dman?

Other gm's know TM is willing to overpay, we aren't getting anybody cheap.
- doppelthat

A lot of ppl might disagree...
But I've said all along that I thought McCabe would be the guy we ended up pairing with Ristolainen
Tough to say right now what Guhle or Martin can become
I've always been high on McCabe though
Even when we had Zadorov, I thought he'd end up on the 2nd pair with Myers

It's not gonna happen by next season,
But I really do think a McCabe-Ristolainen pair could end up being pretty special for us

True, but how many times can you give up too much without severely hurting your team in the future? The overpayment can't just continue.
- doppelthat

For sure, but Darcy left us with so many pieces it's nuts
If u go to hockeysfuture.com
They STILL have us with EIGHTEEN forwards with a 6.0 rating or better
Yes, I said 18!
9 guys fall into the category of 3rd line talent, with another 9 who has 2nd line talent or better

Of course, not all these guys will make it (and I feel some are quite overrated)
But it does demonstrate just how much ammo Murray does have when it comes to making a deal

Brrrr it's cold out there, -11F.

Brrrr it's cold out there, -11F.
- sippyd

What do you do on a day where it's minus 11? Nothing.

What do you do on a day where it's minus 11? Nothing.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Coffee, Fireplace going. Beer on ice. Walking dead tonight. A good day.

oh and Sabres too.