BURDA13
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 02.09.2015
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Scuderi (CHI) on waivers. - Fruitcakenipple
Can't say I'm surprised. But does this mean we have a trade coming through as well? |
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furso27
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Location: Plainfield, IL Joined: 03.02.2009
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Scuderi (CHI) on waivers. - Fruitcakenipple
I think this was a domino JJ said to look for |
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philco28
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Location: Mississauga, ON Joined: 12.06.2011
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Scuderi (CHI) on waivers. - Fruitcakenipple
Scud was a DUD. Dude was on vapor.
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Dabearshawks
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Location: IL Joined: 03.02.2015
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Palmieri, Moore, or Schlemko would be my guesses on NJ. |
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CanOCorn
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Location: The OP, IL Joined: 04.03.2013
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I think this was a domino JJ said to look for - furso27
Wasn't this the second domino? First was Bickell going down? I could be wrong.
Final was Kruger going on LTIR.
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Dabearshawks
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Location: IL Joined: 03.02.2015
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Can't say I'm surprised. But does this mean we have a trade coming through as well? - BURDA13
Maybe.... All aboard the trade deadline train! |
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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Good observation and that's a spacing or "gap" issue that Q talks about at times. - Al
There are a few issues at work here.
The fire drills in their own zone come from a combination of things. When Rosival or Scuderi are on the ice, much of it comes from their inability to win a race to a loose puck. They are both able to put a body on someone down low, but then need the assistance of the center or a wing dropping low to retrieve the puck. You see the wings usually hesitant in Q's system to drop below the dots as it creates way to much room up top. In addition, in the second period, the long change leads to some brutally long stretches in their own zone where the D just cant get off. The reliance of the stretch pass as a breakout has something to do with this as well.
In terms of the forwards, some of them are just not good along the boards and or play way to soft in their own end. Against the Ducks, TT was directly responsible for two of their goals because he was charmin soft along the boards. Mash has horrible hands and struggles to control pucks along the boards, same for some of the other forwards. For all the crap that Kane takes about being a poor defensive player, he is one of the best on the team at controlling a puck along the boards and finding the correct outlet. Hossa and Toews are also beats along the boards. Panarin is strong along the boards, but still needs to learn where his outlets are and make that decision a little quicker.
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ChicagoDave
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 02.20.2013
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Palmieri, Moore, or Schlemko would be my guesses on NJ. - Dabearshawks
I have thought for a while now that John Moore would be a PERFECT fit on the bottom pairing...cap friendly, quick and a solid puck moving D man |
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kmw4631
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Location: CHICAGO Joined: 02.27.2015
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out shot for me was not that big of a deal. we were up 3-0 after 22 mins and we out shooting them by 5 at that point. Teams are going to get more aggressive and put more shots on goal and take more chances.
I sat the 1st row behind the bench last night. It was allot fun. TT power play goal was a nice shot but it was 3-5. Sveds goal was better he took a pass pretty deep and his shot does seem to get through but for the life me I have no idea why, he does not take it quickly and its not super hard, but his seem to and hammers do not?
Darling was solid all night and made 1 highlight reel stop. He had a bunch of scrums going on right in the crease and did not really lose his goal which was good.
of the FR I thought des looked good and also thought Sved was pretty good.
In general I think I would be pretty cautious trading for any Maple leafs Most seem to disappoint where ever they go.
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furso27
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Location: Plainfield, IL Joined: 03.02.2009
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#Blackhawks Scuderi scenarios:
If claimed
EOS cap space $1.2M
Trade deadline space $5.6M
If sent to AHL
EOS $0.84M
Trade deadline $3.9M
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I'm just going to throw this out there, something I looked up earlier this year, of the 16 playoff games the Hawks won last year they were out shot in 12 of those wins
Honestly the Hawks losing streak many players looked like crap, TT and Keith really stood out and not in a good way
The other thing I noticed which drives me crazy, against the neutral zone trap Lines 1 and 2 insist on trying to carry the puck in instead of dump and chase,
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Scuderi (CHI) on waivers. - Fruitcakenipple
Surprised it took this long. Scuds isn't an NHL player anymore. And Johnston played him on the top pairing. |
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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I'm just going to throw this out there, something I looked up earlier this year, of the 16 playoff games the Hawks won last year they were out shot in 12 of those wins
Honestly the Hawks losing streak many players looked like crap, TT and Keith really stood out and not in a good way
The other thing I noticed which drives me crazy, against the neutral zone trap Lines 1 and 2 insist on trying to carry the puck in instead of dump and chase, - BetweenTheDots
Its not as much number of shots as it is quality of shots. |
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Scud was a DUD. Dude was on vapor. - philco28
The scud missile was a dud.
Who saw that coming? |
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kmw4631
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Location: CHICAGO Joined: 02.27.2015
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Sharp for Sekac. and 1.3 mil cap hit sitting in the AHL. I can't believe would could not find a taker for Daley that would only send a Soon to be FA. at least he is only owed 1.4 next year so hopefully we can find a taker, give up a prospect and take back a few bad AHL contrats. |
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StLBravesFan
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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They were outshot 15-5 in the second period. They were not outshot in the other periods. Much of the Leaf barrage was after the Hawks took a 3-0 lead and started to chill. In the third period, they took it pretty easy, and were not putting all their best guys on the ice when the Leafs scored their two goals. They don't call it garbage time for no reason.
That's not to say that there are reasons to be concerned about the Hawks being outshot in other games, of course. They were lucky to get a point against the Ducks, as Q said. I'm just glad they're going to get to rest a bit more over the next few weeks. - 333inthe3rd
Reason to be more concerned than the SOG shows:
At even strength (41 minutes, IIRC) - for the game - the Corsi for was 33-53.
At even strength for the 2nd and 3rd periods - the Corsi for was 15-33, mostly because of a bad 2nd period - 4-21.
Yes, Toronto was chasing a lot by then, but still, not a very good possession game at even strength. |
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Dabearshawks
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Location: IL Joined: 03.02.2015
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Wasn't this the second domino? First was Bickell going down? I could be wrong.
Final was Kruger going on LTIR. - CanOCorn
Yep. So Hawks will probably call up someone else to get as close to the cap as possible. |
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breadbag
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 11.30.2015
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I still think the drop in puck possession advantage is a lot of trouble breaking out and getting through the middle.
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Puck support for the D when they get the puck in the D zone. Hawks D do a lot of just throwing the puck up the boards or just out of the zone and the opposing team gets a lot of chances to hem them in or just turn it right back. Some of the top guys, like Kane, Panarin, Toews, Hossa have the ability to carry the mail and skate the puck up the ice, but I think this used to be a bigger advantage the Hawks had. Some guys that used to really drive transition from D or O are gone and the replacements on the roster just aren't as good.
It has been better, I think in part because Gus has brought some good mobility when he was called up. I think it is more of an issue when #43,47,57 are on the ice. #4 used to drive me nuts with his blind ring-around the puck to the opposing team, but seems he has gotten better with age. |
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#Blackhawks Scuderi scenarios:
If claimed
EOS cap space $1.2M
Trade deadline space $5.6M
If sent to AHL
EOS $0.84M
Trade deadline $3.9M
General Fanager - furso27
That looks odd. How can a $400k difference in EOS create a $1.7m difference in cap space? I know the trade deadline space is magnified because of the partial year remaining, but I wouldnt have thought it would be magnified by 4x.
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Yep. So Hawks will probably call up someone else to get as close to the cap as possible. - Dabearshawks
This doesnt really make sense or else they would have LTIRd Kruger BEFORE sending down scuderi.
If Bowman REALLY was going to hug the cap ceiling to get the maximum LTIR benefit for Kruger, he would have kept Scuderi up AND recalled bickell AND swapped out a lower current salaried roster player or two like Svedberg at $575k for a more expensive ice hog like Pokka at $925k. All those moves just bump us closer to the cap
Moving scuderi down and recalling anyone from rockford is a pretty even money swap.
If anything he is just sending down scuderi and calling up someone cheaper to be another day farther under the cap (since the salary cap is a daily accrual) and he is trying to bank as much cap space available to have at the TDL |
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Reason to be more concerned than the SOG shows:
At even strength (41 minutes, IIRC) - for the game - the Corsi for was 33-53.
At even strength for the 2nd and 3rd periods - the Corsi for was 15-33, mostly because of a bad 2nd period - 4-21.
Yes, Toronto was chasing a lot by then, but still, not a very good possession game at even strength. - StLBravesFan
This is more concerning but at the same time hard to keep possession when the puck ends up in the back of the net
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bogiedoc
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Location: VA Joined: 09.27.2011
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Scuderi (CHI) on waivers. - Fruitcakenipple
shoe number #2 just went thud....
#3 is kruger to ltir and then..... |
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the_dough_boy
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 07.01.2012
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I like the ideas and completely agree with the last sentence.
I'm not opposed to shipping him out for a package that addresses some or all of
CHI's needs. Tough call though. He's home grown, hella young and trading
away a kid with his skills/potentials is always risky. - philco28
Its seeming more and more like he has skills but is mossing his physical anything on the ice.id rather risk him getting better later for somone else and get someone who can perform now (and near future)
Hawks waived scuds, incoming trade? |
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philco28
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Location: Mississauga, ON Joined: 12.06.2011
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BURDA13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 02.09.2015
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From Ek:
Start here today...
Talking to sources today and it appears an Andrew Ladd trade could be close...possibly Chicago who put Scuderi on waivers, but don't expect (or really even want) to lose him come playoff time...
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