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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
No
- gerbe75pts


Abso(frank)inglutely I would trade Reinhart for Subban. It depends what else we'd have to throw in, but yeah, all day. If it was Reinhart and 2017 1st. Probably not that's bit steep. But I wouldn't think twice about Reinhart and 2017 2nd and 4th for Subban with $1.5 retained. I highly highly doubt that's enough to get it done for MTL though. Subban is top 3 D. Karlsson obviously #1 Then OEL and Subban are at the next level, then you have a bunch of guys like Burns, Doughty, Faulk, Hedman, Letang etc... I think Risto can be in that last grouping if he continues his growth.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
Abso(frank)inglutely I would trade Reinhart for Subban. It depends what else we'd have to throw in, but yeah, all day. If it was Reinhart and 2017 1st. Probably not that's bit steep. But I wouldn't think twice about Reinhart and 2017 2nd and 4th for Subban with $1.5 retained. I highly highly doubt that's enough to get it done for MTL though. Subban is top 3 D. Karlsson obviously #1 Then OEL and Subban are at the next level, then you have a bunch of guys like Burns, Doughty, Faulk, Hedman, Letang etc... I think Risto can be in that last grouping if he continues his growth.
- Wetbandit1


I wouldn't trade him in their division I understand how good subban is but that would kill me
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
I still want Jonathan Drouin
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:49 PM ET
down 116-135 4 less skaters for the week

Damn Josi, Domi , Parayko


And DAMN TWICE ... OVI

- cabin


I'm down 155 to 112, but he's got 10 more guys going than me. Yay Ovi!! 90 point week here we come!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 22 @ 10:49 PM ET
Maybe for a D prospect?
- sbroads24


But who would give up a good one for this years ennis?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:50 PM ET
Abso(frank)inglutely I would trade Reinhart for Subban. It depends what else we'd have to throw in, but yeah, all day. If it was Reinhart and 2017 1st. Probably not that's bit steep. But I wouldn't think twice about Reinhart and 2017 2nd and 4th for Subban with $1.5 retained. I highly highly doubt that's enough to get it done for MTL though. Subban is top 3 D. Karlsson obviously #1 Then OEL and Subban are at the next level, then you have a bunch of guys like Burns, Doughty, Faulk, Hedman, Letang etc... I think Risto can be in that last grouping if he continues his growth.
- Wetbandit1


Tough call getting rid of a scoring could be allstar forward. Since that seems to be what we are missing on the team. Yeah we need wingers...we have D on the growth vine coming up soon. (I hope) What would it cost 3 years from now if skunk goes all out competition with Jack ?

We have him already. Sooner or later we need to let the players grow and produce for us. Seems we finally have some players that could be worth the patience.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:52 PM ET
I'm down 155 to 112, but he's got 10 more guys going than me. Yay Ovi!! 90 point week here we come!
- Wetbandit1


down 138.5-119.5 Not bad for first day of the week.

me 76 skaters
him 80
Was gonna take Ovi too. but passed .Hard taking that price tag.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 22 @ 10:59 PM ET
Tough call getting rid of a scoring could be allstar forward. Since that seems to be what we are missing on the team. Yeah we need wingers...we have D on the growth vine coming up soon. (I hope) What would it cost 3 years from now if skunk goes all out competition with Jack ?

We have him already. Sooner or later we need to let the players grow and produce for us. Seems we finally have some players that could be worth the patience.

- cabin


i agree. at this point, I'm not super interested in replacing guys with NHL games under their belt with another rookie.
I also think if Ennis returns and plays to past form, he's a good cap hit and about 20 goals/year.
We need scoring. bad.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Feb 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
Yeah, I think The Division is just starting to scratch the surface of that. FO4 with being able to enter small buildings without load times and the minimal load times for entering large buildings is pretty great. And the buildings are huge. The only problem with that game is loading up a save game or sometimes fast travel. But thankfully Xbox keeps your place for quite some time and you can just hop back into your game like 3 days later without having to restart and reload the game. That's pretty huge too. I'm glad the February update fixed the login issue when turning the system on. I clocked it at 3 minutes and 52 seconds to login at its worst. Now, after the update it's super quick. Have you had that problem too?
- Wetbandit1

Yeah, after fully shutting it down it'd take a lil while to get logged in.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:01 PM ET
But who would give up a good one for this years ennis?
- Sabresfan-365


Vatanen God I would love to have him if we could add Marcus
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Feb 22 @ 11:06 PM ET
*Still just eating popcorn*
- Havic3814


cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 22 @ 11:08 PM ET
i agree. at this point, I'm not super interested in replacing guys with NHL games under their belt with another rookie.
I also think if Ennis returns and plays to past form, he's a good cap hit and about 20 goals/year.
We need scoring. bad.

- seedy

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 22 @ 11:09 PM ET

- Frizzlefry

He needs a bartender or a walk to the store. Better friends works too
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Feb 22 @ 11:12 PM ET
But who would give up a good one for this years ennis?
- Sabresfan-365

At the deadline? Probably no one. If he makes it back and plays well the remainder of the year then maybe he could fetch something decent at the draft.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Feb 22 @ 11:19 PM ET
Our biggest trade piece is Ennis and he isn't even skating yet. 22 games left, Bylsma won't say it but he's gotta be out for the season. Hopefully he can come back next year but having him just for the trade would have been helpful.
- Zschalberg


That's my assumption too. Might as well shut him down for the season. No real benefit for him or the team to try and play at this point.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 22 @ 11:19 PM ET
I really think Sami Vatanen ends up being the one moved in Anaheim.

They are too loaded on defense.

Lindholm
Vatanen
Manson
Despres
Bieksa
Fowler
Montour
Stoner
Theodore

That's 9 potential NHL d men next year
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Feb 22 @ 11:23 PM ET
This is the best post today.
- Der Kaiser


cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 22 @ 11:31 PM ET

- Frizzlefry



Seems I held it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:34 PM ET
I really think Sami Vatanen ends up being the one moved in Anaheim.

They are too loaded on defense.

Lindholm
Vatanen
Manson
Despres
Bieksa
Fowler
Montour
Stoner
Theodore

That's 9 potential NHL d men next year

- sbroads24

I want him
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Feb 22 @ 11:35 PM ET
I really think Sami Vatanen ends up being the one moved in Anaheim.

They are too loaded on defense.

Lindholm
Vatanen
Manson
Despres
Bieksa
Fowler
Montour
Stoner
Theodore

That's 9 potential NHL d men next year

- sbroads24

They'd be the team I'd target. Could Ennis work at the draft if he plays well remainder of the season? Of course add whatever needed to work it out.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:41 PM ET
Does Guhle make the roster next season ??
- 22sabresQ



Nope.
Not if we're smart.
I know we are all in a hurry to get good again, but it's generally better to bring these guys along slowly. Look at how Detroit does it. Even a guy like Nyquist, who has had success in the NHL already, is still on their 3rd line, while guy like Abdelkader & Helm play in the top6 against tougher competition.

We've already got a lot of really young talent up here.
We need some Vets here too.
Giving guys like Guhle & Bailey more time to develop will only help them in the long run.
No need to rush these guys
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:45 PM ET
They'd be the team I'd target. Could Ennis work at the draft if he plays well remainder of the season? Of course add whatever needed to work it out.
- zdp1189



Maybe...
It's just tough bc he's had such a crap season.
Obv he doesn't have much value right now

IMO, we'd have to give up quite a bit with him.
Of guys we have that aren't untouchable...
Fasching is prob our best trade chip
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:51 PM ET
Seems I held it
- cabin


Yeah - all the trade proposals Are far too technical and dry.

No art involved.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:51 PM ET
I really think Sami Vatanen ends up being the one moved in Anaheim.

They are too loaded on defense.

Lindholm
Vatanen
Manson
Despres
Bieksa
Fowler
Montour
Stoner
Theodore

That's 9 potential NHL d men next year

- sbroads24



Yeah...
They're stacked
I wonder who they will try & move?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:53 PM ET
If he didn't get hurt I'm 100% sure he might have made the team
- gerbe75pts



Idk about that
Don't think Murray wants the entire team to be super young all at once.
I know he looked good,
But bringing some of these kids along more slowly will be best IMO
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