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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 9:18 PM ET
Maybe people should recall how outraged they were about the Sven and Very trades. And then reflect on how they grade those moves now??
- dbot


...and the Sutter deal. I know he's been injured but he came as advertised by Benning. Then there was the people who raged about Kassian being dumpoed as a cancer but stfu when he immediately got in the accident and was sent to rehab...

People keep giving Benning scouting credit but consistently call him an idiot for his observations on players.

My first reaction is I don't like this trade... but I will give Benning the benifit of knowing more than us and see what this does to our line up moving forward. We have a log jam of wingers in the system right now... not just centers. Maybe we are moving a center or two at TDL.

If any of Bennings reasons are legitimate and Granlund works out for us... I still am surprised we didnt get a better return for Shink....
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM ET
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/m_news.htm?id=870087

Essentially what I've been saying all afternoon. They weren't sold on Shink because he doesn't have a high level shot and they don't believe his game will translate well to the NHL. They know Granlund well and believe he will have a better career.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM ET
Why do we need another winger? we dont.. I argue a team looking for scoring wingers would gladly deal a dman prospect for him.. why wouldnt they?
- mauryballstein


And you know that they havent been looking for a D and couldnt get one?

People are always assuming that the GM doent engage in more than one conversation leading up to a trade.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 22 @ 9:22 PM ET
What were u expecting from him?
Judge? He's soft n not gonna make it as a sniper in the top 6.
Who is he gonna beat out n Calgary?
Players make it or they don't its not theory.

- Nighthawk


So its good to know if you haven't made the NHL by 21 you won't ever.

Is that the Detroit Red Wings model?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
And you know that they havent been looking for a D and couldnt get one?

People are always assuming that the GM doent engage in more than one conversation leading up to a trade.

- boonerbuck


Exactly...isn't his nickname trader Jim? Lol

He is known for working the phones all day (when he isn't scouting). The guy works his ass off
monsmaark
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whitby, ON
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
Can we trade our fans and a second round pick for the Comets fans?
- CanuckDon


Done deal.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
But why do that I mean he got to play 6 minutes in a game this season.. That should be enough to know he is garbage and will never do anything.

This is benning making another stupid move trying to speed up the rebuild and nothing more and he has done nothing to fix the teams weakness which is defense.

- mauryballstein


It's not the TDL yet a Benning is an idiot for the trades he didnt make for D? Please give it a rest cry baby.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 22 @ 9:25 PM ET
So its good to know if you haven't made the NHL by 21 you won't ever.

Is that the Detroit Red Wings model?

- classic321


U guaranteeing Shink will make the NHL cuz of age?
Smart ppl know when to give up on a players potential n move on.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 9:25 PM ET
I don't think he lost it, but he didn't win it either.

Rasmus andersson is probably one of the top 5 D-men in the CHL.

- classic321


With hindsight, I'd do that deal again 9/10 times.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
I had 1040 on earlier and Taylor said JB was on a conference call to discuss the trade with media and said the goal of the team is to make the playoffs....

That sounds crazy, so I will say it is just the company line. JB must have some other moves in the works because I think I'd rather see Gaunce as a centre in the bottom 6 than Granlund.

- hillbillydeluxe


Gaunce as a winger beside Granlund is more likely what we are going to see...
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:27 PM ET
...and the Sutter deal. I know he's been injured but he came as advertised by Benning. Then there was the people who raged about Kassian being dumpoed as a cancer but stfu when he immediately got in the accident and was sent to rehab...

People keep giving Benning scouting credit but consistently call him an idiot for his observations on players.

My first reaction is I don't like this trade... but I will give Benning the benifit of knowing more than us and see what this does to our line up moving forward. We have a log jam of wingers in the system right now... not just centers. Maybe we are moving a center or two at TDL.

If any of Bennings reasons are legitimate and Granlund works out for us... I still am surprised we didnt get a better return for Shink....

- boonerbuck

I am a pretty big Shink fan. Not impressed but Benning has until July 30th before I make my judgment on him. Not liking this one though.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 22 @ 9:27 PM ET
Gaunce as a winger beside Granlund is more likely what we are going to see...
- boonerbuck


A winger in Utica n a C in the CHL.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
What were u expecting from him?
Judge? He's soft n not gonna make it as a sniper in the top 6.
Who is he gonna beat out n Calgary?
Players make it or they don't its not theory.

- Nighthawk


I was hoping Shink would have been packaged for a bigger deal
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
U guaranteeing Shink will make the NHL cuz of age?
Smart ppl know when to give up on a players potential n move on.

- Nighthawk



Your the one that made the guarantee he wouldn't make it, not me.





dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 9:30 PM ET
...and the Sutter deal. I know he's been injured but he came as advertised by Benning. Then there was the people who raged about Kassian being dumpoed as a cancer but stfu when he immediately got in the accident and was sent to rehab...

People keep giving Benning scouting credit but consistently call him an idiot for his observations on players.


My first reaction is I don't like this trade... but I will give Benning the benifit of knowing more than us and see what this does to our line up moving forward. We have a log jam of wingers in the system right now... not just centers. Maybe we are moving a center or two at TDL.

If any of Bennings reasons are legitimate and Granlund works out for us... I still am surprised we didnt get a better return for Shink....

- boonerbuck



This.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
I am a pretty big Shink fan. Not impressed but Benning has until July 30th before I make my judgment on him. Not liking this one though.
- thundachunk


Couldnt agree more, i was so thrilled when shink was drafted, im just not not happy he was traded for a centerman, even if it was a big package deal could of got D
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
Your the one that made the guarantee he wouldn't make it, not me.
- classic321


I'm on record saying he won't make it.
What r u on record for other than maybe might or possibly?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:35 PM ET
I am a pretty big Shink fan. Not impressed but Benning has until July 30th before I make my judgment on him. Not liking this one though.
- thundachunk


We won't know who one for several years...what we do know is management and likely coach Green weren't high on Shink.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 9:35 PM ET
I was hoping Shink would have been packaged for a bigger deal
- VANTEL


Same.
Hearing the quotes today about them shopping SHink for awhile now, and this being the best deal, i'm satisfied this was the best offer on the table.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
Now you're supposed to tell us how Granlund will be a bust and Shinkaruk will be the next Joe Mullen.
- Scooby_Doo

Give it a week
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
Granlund is a coke head? or does Hunter's dad call a lot?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 22 @ 9:38 PM ET
Same.
Hearing the quotes today about them shopping SHink for awhile now, and this being the best deal, i'm satisfied this was the best offer on the table.

- dbot


A realist 👍🏻
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:40 PM ET
Same.
Hearing the quotes today about them shopping SHink for awhile now, and this being the best deal, i'm satisfied this was the best offer on the table.

- dbot


Twenty three other GMs had their chance to draft him but went a different direction so I believe not a lot was being offered
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
A Rebuild is a specific direction which is based around the principal of acquiring picks and developing patiently which toronto and Phoenix are doing perfectly.
See you guys know EXACTLY what to expect in the coming year. So it is easy to manage expectations. You guys know for a fact you get the following:
1) More draft picks in the next week
2) a really high draft pick in a few months.

People get angry at this move because it doesn't really make any sense.

- classic321

Made sense to Benning and company
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
I was hoping Shink would have been packaged for a bigger deal
- VANTEL

Ya me as well. Say for Vatanen .....or shink N our 1st for TOs 1st.
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