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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:30 PM ET
Mcilrath not really loved by nyr fans. he is the slowest player on the team from what i hear. No thanks to him. Id rather deal hansen for a young dman or a 1st.
- mauryballstein

Heard the same crap about Despres , Engelland and Sutter last year.
Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hansen, under any circumstances. You don't trade away a hard-working honey badger, in his prime who's at a $2.5 cap hit for 3 seasons in a career year about to hit 20 goals. He can play in all situations: 1st line - 4th. Those are exactly the kind of players you keep.

What are you possibly going to get that's better than that?

If you can get anyone to bite on Vrbata or Hamhuis go nuts. Even Burrows.

I said it at the start of the year: the key to this team is D. The D-core is an omni-shambles.

You're not drafting your way out of that anytime soon. The team has nothing to trade for that in terms of assets. Best they're going to be able to do is either find an undrafted gem or free agency. Given JB's track record on the latter, I'm not hopeful.



kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
On Dale Weise....

As a pending UFA, Weise has a ton of value because he has shown himself to be a consistent player and has even had success in the playoffs in the past. So far, I have heard the Rangers, the Devils, and the Predators.


Dale Weise getting some EK rumour mill treatment... means he won't be going anywhere I imagine..

On Andrew Ladd...

Ladd is quickly becoming one of the most sought after free agents. There are rumors out there that Andrew may be the only free-agent who manages to attract a first-round draft pick. Rangers may be the favorite, but the Ducks and Hawks are also in on Ladd....as is, kind of surprisingly, Chicago.


Anyone know if Hawks and Chicago are two different teams... classic EK... not sure if he knows how to edit or if knows what he's writing half the time....
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
feck the Boston model, Chicago sounds like the better approach, always reloading
- hillbillydeluxe


Doesnt even include Niemi who they let walk to an offersheet and took picks for. Constantly retooling, you could made a good team from the guys they have moved away already
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:35 PM ET
Canucks mgmt has wasted assets repeatedly and that's the difference between the Nux and other teams that seem to get something for their players before the decline.

Also, until recently the Nux could have had 30 first round picks in a draft and i'm sure ron delorme and company would have screwed things up somehow... imo based on the drafting record....
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hansen, under any circumstances. You don't trade away a hard-working honey badger, in his prime who's at a $2.5 cap hit for 3 seasons in a career year about to hit 20 goals. He can play in all situations: 1st line - 4th. Those are exactly the kind of players you keep.

What are you possibly going to get that's better than that?

If you can get anyone to bite on Vrbata or Hamhuis go nuts. Even Burrows.

I said it at the start of the year: the key to this team is D. The D-core is an omni-shambles.

You're not drafting your way out of that anytime soon. The team has nothing to trade for that in terms of assets. Best they're going to be able to do is either find an undrafted gem or free agency. Given JB's track record on the latter, I'm not hopeful.

- Ronning4ever

We are rebuilding and trading him has greater value then keeping him. He was drafted in the 9th round and if you can get a 1st for him you do it immediately.
billcanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:40 PM ET
What kind of an a$shole parent thinks its a good idea to bring an infant to a hockey area? People a fu@krd.
- thundachunk


Hope you never make a mistake in your life.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:41 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hansen, under any circumstances. You don't trade away a hard-working honey badger, in his prime who's at a $2.5 cap hit for 3 seasons in a career year about to hit 20 goals. He can play in all situations: 1st line - 4th. Those are exactly the kind of players you keep.

What are you possibly going to get that's better than that?

If you can get anyone to bite on Vrbata or Hamhuis go nuts. Even Burrows.

I said it at the start of the year: the key to this team is D. The D-core is an omni-shambles.

You're not drafting your way out of that anytime soon. The team has nothing to trade for that in terms of assets. Best they're going to be able to do is either find an undrafted gem or free agency. Given JB's track record on the latter, I'm not hopeful.

- Ronning4ever


The same could have been said about Burrow 2 years ago (minus the contract number) Now he is barley a 3rd liner making 4.5 and is almost untradable
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
The same could have been said about Burrow 2 years ago (minus the contract number) Now he is barley a 3rd liner making 4.5 and is almost untradable
- fiveandagame


Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
feck the Boston model, Chicago sounds like the better approach, always reloading
- hillbillydeluxe

feck the Chicago model, Toronto model sounds like the better approach, just ask TSN, Sportsnet, Dreger, Strombopukalotonus, Heatly, PJ, Twittersphere, yada, yada
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
Hope you never make a mistake in your life.
- billcanuck


Did this just happen today or was it the open practice that had 17,000 fans they were talking about yesterday?



Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:47 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hansen, under any circumstances. You don't trade away a hard-working honey badger, in his prime who's at a $2.5 cap hit for 3 seasons in a career year about to hit 20 goals. He can play in all situations: 1st line - 4th. Those are exactly the kind of players you keep.

What are you possibly going to get that's better than that?

If you can get anyone to bite on Vrbata or Hamhuis go nuts. Even Burrows.

I said it at the start of the year: the key to this team is D. The D-core is an omni-shambles.

You're not drafting your way out of that anytime soon. The team has nothing to trade for that in terms of assets. Best they're going to be able to do is either find an undrafted gem or free agency. Given JB's track record on the latter, I'm not hopeful.

- Ronning4ever


How to stay competitive any young at the same time? Not waiting for players to AGE and slow down completely before attempting to trade them. See Chicago and the post above regarding all the players who have since been traded after winning a stanley cup. Chicago constantly brings in quality/established young players to fill the void of players who are at their highest value (see Brandon Saad). When you wait too long, you end up with losing players like Bieksa/Lack for next to nothing. Matthias and Richardson (albeit different scenarios) for nothing. Now you are going to struggle to find suitable trade partners for Higgins/Burrows. Waiting too long to make trades has been Vancouvers problem for soooo many years.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
feck the Chicago model, Toronto model sounds like the better approach, just ask TSN, Sportsnet, Dreger, Strombopukalotonus, Heatly, PJ, Twittersphere, yada, yada
- Makita


Will they ever get bored talking about it? The Marlies will receive more coverage from TSM (toronto stream media) for the next 4 years than all the teams in the west combined....
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
Since their first cup, they've moved:
Versteeg (twice)
Byfulgien
Laad,
Sharp,
Saad,
Leddy,
Bolland,
Frolik,
Oduya,
Campbell,
Kopecky,
Brouwer.

All varying degrees of success in the deals, but they made them and still continue to win series in the post season

- WhiteLie


The difference is that Chicago had prospects coming up that allowed them to make most of these moves. The Canucks...not so much.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hansen, under any circumstances. You don't trade away a hard-working honey badger, in his prime who's at a $2.5 cap hit for 3 seasons in a career year about to hit 20 goals. He can play in all situations: 1st line - 4th. Those are exactly the kind of players you keep.

What are you possibly going to get that's better than that?

If you can get anyone to bite on Vrbata or Hamhuis go nuts. Even Burrows.

I said it at the start of the year: the key to this team is D. The D-core is an omni-shambles.

You're not drafting your way out of that anytime soon. The team has nothing to trade for that in terms of assets. Best they're going to be able to do is either find an undrafted gem or free agency. Given JB's track record on the latter, I'm not hopeful.

- Ronning4ever

Well with HB Hyperbole central, you get picks, picks and more picks, or prospects. Did I mention that they are all unproven, but they will be instrumental with the club being competitive in 3-5 years...book it. Why keep a valuable asset at a great contract when you can have unproven 2nd round picks
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:51 PM ET

Granlund to the Canucks for Shinkaruk?
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
Granlund to the Canucks for Shinkaruk?
- hillbillydeluxe


Dafaq?! A head scratcher for sure
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hansen, under any circumstances. You don't trade away a hard-working honey badger, in his prime who's at a $2.5 cap hit for 3 seasons in a career year about to hit 20 goals. He can play in all situations: 1st line - 4th. Those are exactly the kind of players you keep.

What are you possibly going to get that's better than that?

If you can get anyone to bite on Vrbata or Hamhuis go nuts. Even Burrows.

I said it at the start of the year: the key to this team is D. The D-core is an omni-shambles.

You're not drafting your way out of that anytime soon. The team has nothing to trade for that in terms of assets. Best they're going to be able to do is either find an undrafted gem or free agency. Given JB's track record on the latter, I'm not hopeful.

- Ronning4ever


All the reasons you listed are the exact reasons you trade him now while his value will never be hire. This team wont be in the playoffs for 3 years hopefully thats it, so why keep a guy who can bring a potential aid to the defense while we continue loose which will also have us loosing longer than we need to be.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
Granlund to the Canucks for Shinkaruk?
- hillbillydeluxe


please god no
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
please god no
- Codes1087


we acquire another centre, are we going to move one?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
CONFIRMED

Markus Granlund for Hunter Shinkaruk
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Granlund to the Canucks for Shinkaruk?
- hillbillydeluxe


Benny! You did it again
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
CONFIRMED

Markus Granlund for Hunter Shinkaruk

- Codes1087


I don't get this trade at all. What do we need another center for? Granlund is essentially Vey 2.0, is he not?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
CONFIRMED

Markus Granlund for Hunter Shinkaruk

- Codes1087

perhaps this means drouin is on his way here
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
lol Benning
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