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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
Hello Nighthawk.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
Please elaborate. .... tell me all the good players we traded away. Myers was the only solid player with term and while convenient Kane was hurt, you have to give to get. Both tenders were UFAs="maximizing assets" just like the Leafs.

I'll hang up and listen.

- twistedwrister9


And they didn't trade Myers for a guy that couldn't play. Bogosian took Myers place. But ya know what? Overall, it's not worth the battle. Just like it wasn't worth fighting with people about it last year either.
Allan Bester
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 02.09.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Sabres tank last year...I have no issue with that. It was funny to see them trade every goalie who ever won a game - but they were UFA's and backups at best so it's fair game.

The Oilers tank was a bit disgraceful. The year they brought Hall, Eberle and paajarvi-gretzky in all at the same time. They didn't have any NHL D or goalies. They really threw their kids to the wolves.

At least this season the Leafs went out and got a bunch of UFA's. Most are for trade but some are not. Look at Hunwick - He's a quality D that nobody else wanted. He shouldn't be on anybody's first D pairing - but it's a much better(and much less tanky) move to use vets like Hunwick instead of bringing up yet another rookie.

Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Kessel and Phaneuf were both traded prior to or during the season. Rumours swirling about other players like Kadri and Reimer.

Its exactly the same thing...its 100% a double standard that has been applied by a lot of the media...just let the teams tank. It is smart asset management and it is in the best interest of both of these teams to do what they did.

I have no issue with what either team has done as a non leaf or sabre fan.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Leafs management clearly did not intend to be competitive this season, but the "talent" that you suggest the Leafs are trading away are 3rd/4th line forwards and 3rd pairing D.

As Bob Dylan said - "When you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose."

- magmoo


Wasn't Dion their captain?...regardless of talent, that's always a significant move and even more significant signal to the rest of the team.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
The Toronto Media is ridiculous and stupid. Simple.

I like what Buffalo has done, and am hoping we look similar in a couple of seasons.

- SolidGoldBricks


Hello Brick
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:09 AM ET
No. It never makes it through customs.
- cabin

Thank (frank) for that. They are absolutely brutal. Feschuk, Simmons, Cox, Healy, Kypreous, Dreger, Duthie. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
This article is driven by a major inferiority complex....
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
Kessel and Phaneuf were both traded prior to or during the season. Rumours swirling about other players like Kadri and Reimer.

Its exactly the same thing...its 100% a double standard that has been applied by a lot of the media...just let the teams tank. It is smart asset management and it is in the best interest of both of these teams to do what they did.

I have no issue with what either team has done as a non leaf or sabre fan.

- Joel_Eh


Murray says it all the time. You can't let UFAs walk for nothing. It's poor team management.

I agree, especially in a season where the playoffs aren't a possibility.
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
"Leaf jealousy"? Is there such a thing?
I think you missed the entire point of this write up. He was comparing the Sabres last year to the Leafs this year. Saying that the Canadian media bashed the Sabres for the same thing the Leafs are doing right now but the Canadian media looks the other way when the Leafs are doing it. I really wouldn't call that jealousy.

- doppelthat


Buffalo traded away anything that had a pulse and another Gm was willing to trade for. The Leafs purposely signed free agents on one year contracts to trade them for picks and or prospects, in effect buying draft choices.

This blog is a week early. It would only make sense if Toronto traded away JVR,Kadri,Garner etc . What Buffalo did last year is why the league changed the rules for the lottery.

You were guaranteed McDavid/Eichel. We have no guarantee of a first overall, 2nd etc. Best is a 4th rounder. Are we rebuilding ..yes, without question. But not the way Buffalo did it.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:11 AM ET
This article is driven by a major inferiority complex....
- AxlRose91

#LeafsBuzz
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
Kessel and Phaneuf were both traded prior to or during the season. Rumours swirling about other players like Kadri and Reimer.

Its exactly the same thing...its 100% a double standard that has been applied by a lot of the media...just let the teams tank. It is smart asset management and it is in the best interest of both of these teams to do what they did.

I have no issue with what either team has done as a non leaf or sabre fan.

- Joel_Eh


this is a good post...thx
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
Leafs n Sabres should be Bros because they have both been rebuilding since the Sabres entered the league .
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
This article is driven by a major inferiority complex....
- AxlRose91

yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
The majority of the time you hear the Tank word in sports is only when that Ultra Elite player is at the end. All teams trade assets (some more than others) but it's just magnified when there's a mcdavid, lebron, luck on the other end.

Thats why you dont hear as much this year or the exblad draft..
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
Buffalo traded away anything that had a pulse and another Gm was willing to trade for. The Leafs purposely signed free agents on one year contracts to trade them for picks and or prospects, in effect buying draft choices.

This blog is a week early. It would only make sense if Toronto traded away JVR,Kadri,Garner etc . What Buffalo did last year is why the league changed the rules for the lottery.

You were guaranteed McDavid/Eichel. We have no guarantee of a first overall, 2nd etc. Best is a 4th rounder. Are we rebuilding ..yes, without question. But not the way Buffalo did it.

- sparky

It is a bit rough when the league has to change its policy due to two teams
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:13 AM ET
Kessel and Phaneuf were both traded prior to or during the season. Rumours swirling about other players like Kadri and Reimer.

Its exactly the same thing...its 100% a double standard that has been applied by a lot of the media...just let the teams tank. It is smart asset management and it is in the best interest of both of these teams to do what they did.

I have no issue with what either team has done as a non leaf or sabre fan.

- Joel_Eh


You setting us up for your tank next season ?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:13 AM ET
Did anyone watch Casey Affleck completely just embarrass himself last night ?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
It is a bit rough when the league has to change its policy due to two teams
- walshyleafsfan


If you're implying the Sabres are one of the two teams, you have issues.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
Buffalo traded away anything that had a pulse and another Gm was willing to trade for. The Leafs purposely signed free agents on one year contracts to trade them for picks and or prospects, in effect buying draft choices.

This blog is a week early. It would only make sense if Toronto traded away JVR,Kadri,Garner etc . What Buffalo did last year is why the league changed the rules for the lottery.

You were guaranteed McDavid/Eichel. We have no guarantee of a first overall, 2nd etc. Best is a 4th rounder. Are we rebuilding ..yes, without question. But not the way Buffalo did it.

- sparky


So the Leafs management is losing on purpose. You would not call that a tank job?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
Buffalo traded away anything that had a pulse and another Gm was willing to trade for. The Leafs purposely signed free agents on one year contracts to trade them for picks and or prospects, in effect buying draft choices.

This blog is a week early. It would only make sense if Toronto traded away JVR,Kadri,Garner etc . What Buffalo did last year is why the league changed the rules for the lottery.

You were guaranteed McDavid/Eichel. We have no guarantee of a first overall, 2nd etc. Best is a 4th rounder. Are we rebuilding ..yes, without question. But not the way Buffalo did it.

- sparky


Buffalo traded away 1 player that was under contract beyond last year, and it was Myers. They took back 2 players that were under contract beyond last year (Kane & Bogosian). Get your facts straight before you come in here pointing fingers.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Kessel and Phaneuf were both traded prior to or during the season. Rumours swirling about other players like Kadri and Reimer.

Its exactly the same thing...its 100% a double standard that has been applied by a lot of the media...just let the teams tank. It is smart asset management and it is in the best interest of both of these teams to do what they did.

I have no issue with what either team has done as a non leaf or sabre fan.

- Joel_Eh


You hit it on the head. It's not us (Sabres fans) faulting Toronto for tanking, it's the ridiculousness in the denials of it.

I can "defend" the moves Buffalo made last year (dumping pending FAs, the final goalie after 2 were moved playing better than those that were traded away, etc), but the point isn't the teams tanking, it's the lack of ridicule for Toronto in the media.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Leafs aren't tanking? I have a bridge to sell you and some swampland in FLA
- Michael Pachla

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
It is a bit rough when the league has to change its policy due to two teams
- walshyleafsfan


I think they changed it because of Edmonton.

All teams tank at some point in time.

Pittsburgh
Ottawa
Washington
Edmonton
Columbus
Phoenix/Arizona
Toronto
Buffalo
Chicago
Philly
Tampa
NYI


All teams recently to go through something like this in the past 10-15 years.

tanking and rebuilding are the same thing.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Difference is Leafs trading away pending UFA's and RFA's, Buff traded away good players under contract for injured players and then proceeded to trade away both Goalies, 1 of which was playing well.
- Garnie

if he didn't want traded he should have stopped playing well
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