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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 10:51 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Wrapup: Flyers Play Well Enough to Lose to Canes, 3-1
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:01 PM ET
Sell
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:06 PM ET
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:07 PM ET
Play this game 10 times, the Flyers win 9. Bad time to get the unlucky loss. Bad opponent for it to happen against. Double whammy. Oh well.

There are some great takeaways to be had...like Schenn continuing his terrific play. Coots's first game back, he helped out a ton. Didn't miss a beat. Streit is also looking better since MDZ went down. This is good news, whether he's traded or not. But he's looking more like the pre-pubic plate sundered Streit.

And....oh my god! What is THAT? Oh it's an actual NHL quality third line! Huzzah, tweeners don't have to play third line! Cousins has proven to be quite respectable as a 2 way player, like you'd like of all your centers. He makes up in smarts and tenacity what he lacks in foot speed. And Laughton...the wing experiment is proving a success, to the happiness of quite a few posters here who've been calling for it for awhile.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:15 PM ET
Play this game 10 times, the Flyers win 9. Bad time to get the unlucky loss. Bad opponent for it to happen against. Double whammy. Oh well.

There are some great takeaways to be had...like Schenn continuing his terrific play. Coots's first game back, he helped out a ton. Didn't miss a beat. Streit is also looking better since MDZ went down. This is good news, whether he's traded or not. But he's looking more like the pre-pubic plate sundered Streit.

And....oh my god! What is THAT? Oh it's an actual NHL quality third line! Huzzah, tweeners don't have to play third line! Cousins has proven to be quite respectable as a 2 way player, like you'd like of all your centers. He makes up in smarts and tenacity what he lacks in foot speed. And Laughton...the wing experiment is proving a success, to the happiness of quite a few posters here who've been calling for it for awhile.

- Mononoke


schenn for benn+
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:16 PM ET
schenn for benn+
- orangekrush2010


Begrudgingly, I'd do that trade.

Unless you're talking about that coat-tail riding mofo, Jordie.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:21 PM ET
Team doesn't need Giroux. Time to sell before he gets too old
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:33 PM ET
Team doesn't need Giroux. Time to sell before he gets too old
- PhillySportsGuy


It hurts to say it, but you're so right. The drop off from Giroux to Weal is slim to none. Time to part ways.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:43 PM ET
The faint hope dimmed tonight. Losing two points to a team that you're chasing, and having the others you are chasing win kind of slams another torpedo into the hull of the good ship Playoffs.

The good news, it sure seems to be a seller's market, and the way some of the potential trade chips are playing right now helps Hextall in setting up the yard sale tent.

Sucks because they played a good game tonight, got killed by a couple bad plays and good goaltending by Ward.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:57 PM ET
The faint hope dimmed tonight. Losing two points to a team that you're chasing, and having the others you are chasing win kind of slams another torpedo into the hull of the good ship Playoffs.

The good news, it sure seems to be a seller's market, and the way some of the potential trade chips are playing right now helps Hextall in setting up the yard sale tent.

Sucks because they played a good game tonight, got killed by a couple bad plays and good goaltending by Ward.

- Jsaquella

This metaphor was an absolute masterpiece.

I laughed...I cried...what a ride it was Jsaq. Thank you.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:57 PM ET
This metaphor was an absolute masterpiece.

I laughed...I cried...what a ride it was Jsaq. Thank you.

- Giroux_Is_God


Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing
- Jsaquella


I read the first line, "The faint hope dimmed tonight," and I thought you were composing some artsy fartsy free verse poem post.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 24 @ 12:47 AM ET
Even with Brayden Schenn playing well, he still continues to be an engma to me. Since breaking up the Giroux, Raffl and Schenn line and being on a line where he has more opportunity to have possession time with the puck (most notably with Couturier), I've noticed within the last month to the last month and a half, Schenn has played in all three forward spots and has done well in all three slots. I have to admit that I was as frustrated as anyone not knowing where he belonged but it really does seem like he's finding some comfort on the ice.

Raffl-Couturier-Schenn
Schenn-Giroux-Simmonds
Gagner-Schenn-Simmonds

Overall it's nice seeing Voracek, Simmonds and Schenn take the ball and run with it, even if we're not seeing the most ideal of positive results.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:41 AM ET
Sell
- mydoglicks

SELL!
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 24 @ 3:26 AM ET
Flyers need a couple of snipers they have enough non scoring playmakers
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:13 AM ET
In some ways, Tuesday's outcome was a case of the breaks evening out.
- Bill


Pretty much this.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:50 AM ET
With all of the grief that Gudas has gotten over the last few days/weeks, I thought he played a pretty solid game last night. Some good break-ups and a couple of timely poke checks. He played a simple game and was effective. The big difference being the amount of ice time he was given (only Manning played less). I have no problems with him as long as that type of play continues.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 7:05 AM ET
Team doesn't need Giroux. Time to sell before he gets too old
- PhillySportsGuy


More like FRAUD GIROUX AMIRITE??!1/1!!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 7:06 AM ET
With all of the grief that Gudas has gotten over the last few days/weeks, I thought he played a pretty solid game last night. Some good break-ups and a couple of timely poke checks. He played a simple game and was effective. The big difference being the amount of ice time he was given (only Manning played less). I have no problems with him as long as that type of play continues.
- Coleman


He's a good hockey player when he's not putting himself in a bad position to unnecessarily put a player in traction.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 7:31 AM ET
I read the first line, "The faint hope dimmed tonight," and I thought you were composing some artsy fartsy free verse poem post.
- Mononoke


I only do that under my alt
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 24 @ 7:58 AM ET
At the end of the night, the Flyers had 66 shot attempts to Carolina’s 37. While that looks lovely on a Corsi/Fenwick chart, it mattered not a whit on the scoreboard at the end of the night. That's all that matters, especially this time of year.
-Bill


Take that #fancystats people!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 7:58 AM ET
I don't blame one goal for the whole loss but man the Neuvirth first goal seemed to doom the Flyers. They had all the momentum and were controlling the game and that seem to change everything.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 8:10 AM ET
Even with Brayden Schenn playing well, he still continues to be an engma to me. Since breaking up the Giroux, Raffl and Schenn line and being on a line where he has more opportunity to have possession time with the puck (most notably with Couturier), I've noticed within the last month to the last month and a half, Schenn has played in all three forward spots and has done well in all three slots. I have to admit that I was as frustrated as anyone not knowing where he belonged but it really does seem like he's finding some comfort on the ice.

Raffl-Couturier-Schenn
Schenn-Giroux-Simmonds
Gagner-Schenn-Simmonds

Overall it's nice seeing Voracek, Simmonds and Schenn take the ball and run with it, even if we're not seeing the most ideal of positive results.

- SuperSchennBros


I agree.

I wouldn't mind moving forward with Schenn. If his deal is similar to Couturier. I do wonder though what Hextall thinks and maybe to sell high on Schenn might be now. He could provide secondary scoring for a team and is young. I wonder what return you would get.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 8:14 AM ET
Take that #fancystats people!
- dragonoffrost

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 8:17 AM ET
Take that #fancystats people!

- dragonoffrost


small sample size
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