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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:29 PM ET
nah I think we played better without giroux last night and it's proof we can trade him and be fine
- 2Real


Get your own bit, tough guy
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:31 PM ET
Get your own bit, tough guy
- PhillySportsGuy

did i steal your thunder?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:32 PM ET
lol

To be fair, I don't think Eklund is implying that one of those teams is playoff bound, rather he was just pointing out that were he to sign by Monday he would be eligible.

From there I was stating my own wonderings.

- Scoob



I think Ek, in his haste to get stuff out there doesnt stop to self-edit, and in the process frequently implies things that he does not intend.

I was under the impression though that should Kovalchuk come back into the league, that Jersey retained his rights.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:32 PM ET
They might get better offers when he has less term left, assuming he doesn't slow down.
- Feanor


Yeah I understand that...that was my main knock on the Flyers trading him when they did. What I mean is that now, at this point, they have a certain amount of players at a young age, who could develop and help at the same time. That combined with the risk of his play suddenly dropping off is why I think they could just send him away
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
I think Ek, in his haste to get stuff out there doesnt stop to self-edit, and in the process frequently implies things that he does not intend.

I was under the impression though that should Kovalchuk come back into the league, that Jersey retained his rights.

- Doc_Sarcasm


From http://www.allaboutthejer...-new-jersey-should-say-no

There are only three ways for him to return:

1. All thirty teams would grant permission to return to the NHL. He would be a free agent.

2. Kovalchuk can sit out a year and not play hockey anywhere. After then, only the Devils need to grant his permission to return to the NHL. He would be a free agent.

3. Kovalchuk would wait until he's 35. At that point, he's free to come back without any permission. That would be the 2018-19 season, or two years after the speculated season he's considering leaving the KHL.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
From http://www.allaboutthejer...-new-jersey-should-say-no

There are only three ways for him to return:

1. All thirty teams would grant permission to return to the NHL. He would be a free agent.

2. Kovalchuk can sit out a year and not play hockey anywhere. After then, only the Devils need to grant his permission to return to the NHL. He would be a free agent.

3. Kovalchuk would wait until he's 35. At that point, he's free to come back without any permission. That would be the 2018-19 season, or two years after the speculated season he's considering leaving the KHL.

- jmatchett383


Fascinating. I wonder if anything will come of it.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
did i steal your thunder?
- 2Real

I think it's pretty clear that's what he's saying, yes
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
did i steal your thunder?
- 2Real


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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
Everyone knows the Flyers were simply unable to score early this season. Well how about lately?

https://mobile.twitter.co...status/701851276913446912

- Mononoke


Fair point. Top 8 in the NHL since January 1. You'd think it would equate to better than an 11-8-4 record. So while the scoring is up, the average play has continued.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
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- PhillySportsGuy

i just want to be like the greats alright
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
Per Eklund

Been chasing a slew of rumors, but I was just told by a very reliable source that Ilya Kovalchuk may be leaving Russia and signing with an NHL team before Monday's traded deadline which would make him eligible for the post season...

The source contacted me just as news broke in Russia that Kovalchuk will NOT play Games 3 or 4 in his playoff series versus Lokomotiv fro SKA and has been stripped of his captaincy.

The two teams Kovalchuk would most likely be signing with are NJ and Toronto from all indications.


If he wants to play in the playoffs why would he go to those teams?

- Scoob


so they could trade him for assets to a contender?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
Fair point. Top 8 in the NHL since January 1. You'd think it would equate to better than an 9-8-4 record. So while the scoring is up, the average to below average play has continued.
- PLindbergh31

yea I'd like to see the GA/G also
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
I think Kovalchuk is a jackass. Was still one of the elite snipers, and could've been a HoFer.

Supposedly he got into it with his assistant coach. Does anyone remember during the Olympics where he was captain of Russia, lost, and then led the players off the ice before the national anthem? Ovi and Malkin stayed and were pissed at their teammates, urging them to stay.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
I guess we didn't get Jamie Benn yet. Damn.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Maybe they should of.

But look now with all the cap questions for next year. Lots of people stated we should have held onto him until this year and tried to move him.

Maybe Hextall was smart to get out in front of it before the cap didn't go where people thought.

- J35Bacher


What exactly do you think the Hartnell trade did for the cap situation?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
I guess we didn't get Jamie Benn yet. Damn.
- orangekrush2010



Any second now. . .
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Maybe they should of.

But look now with all the cap questions for next year. Lots of people stated we should have held onto him until this year and tried to move him.

Maybe Hextall was smart to get out in front of it before the cap didn't go where people thought.

- J35Bacher


orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Anyone here in the finance world? I have a couple job opps i need to decide on between BNP Paribas, BlackRock and this other small AM shop in NYC.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
Anyone here in the finance world? I have a couple job opps i need to decide on between BNP Paribas, BlackRock and this other small AM shop in NYC.
- orangekrush2010


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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
Anyone here in the finance world? I have a couple job opps i need to decide on between BNP Paribas, BlackRock and this other small AM shop in NYC.
- orangekrush2010


go for the one with the best OT/bonus structure and work your ass off for a few years...your 30-80 year old self will thank you
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:47 PM ET
Per Eklund

If he wants to play in the playoffs why would he go to those teams?

- Scoob

I love how you try to apply logic to that post.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:47 PM ET
Anyone here in the finance world? I have a couple job opps i need to decide on between BNP Paribas, BlackRock and this other small AM shop in NYC.
- orangekrush2010

getting a job where you actually produce something is a start
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
go for the one with the best OT/bonus structure and work your ass off for a few years...your 30-80 year old self will thank you
- YuenglingJagr


You don't really get OT in most finance companies. You're just kind of expected to work 7-8AM through 8-10PM most nights. Bonuses are usually pretty high though. In NYC, you might get a base of 65-75K but then a bonus of 15-25K. Philly is obviously not as high but much more sustainable life around here than NYC.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
You don't really get OT in most finance companies. You're just kind of expected to work 7-8AM through 8-10PM most nights. Bonuses are usually pretty high though. In NYC, you might get a base of 65-75K but then a bonus of 15-25K. Philly is obviously not as high but much more sustainable life around here than NYC.
- orangekrush2010


that's pretty horrible pay for the hours you have to work do those larger companies at least give RSUs?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:54 PM ET
Anyone here in the finance world? I have a couple job opps i need to decide on between BNP Paribas, BlackRock and this other small AM shop in NYC.
- orangekrush2010

So you don't come on here for 5 years and now two days back your asking people on a Flyers thread about finance companies and life decisions.

You may want to rethink your return here and how it may impact your life.
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