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benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
From http://www.allaboutthejer...-new-jersey-should-say-no

There are only three ways for him to return:

1. All thirty teams would grant permission to return to the NHL. He would be a free agent.

2. Kovalchuk can sit out a year and not play hockey anywhere. After then, only the Devils need to grant his permission to return to the NHL. He would be a free agent.

3. Kovalchuk would wait until he's 35. At that point, he's free to come back without any permission. That would be the 2018-19 season, or two years after the speculated season he's considering leaving the KHL.

- jmatchett383



Brother, what is your profile pic/ avatar pic?
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
that's pretty horrible pay for the hours you have to work do those larger companies at least give RSUs?
- 2Real


I should have clarified. That's entry level.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
you've gotta think that there's no way in hell the Devils bring back Kovy after what he did to them. That's like constantly getting back together with an ex gf who always cheated on you
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
Kovalchuk is a (frank)
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:02 PM ET
I should have clarified. That's entry level.
- orangekrush2010

well i guess you'll definitely by paying your dues then i went through that poop
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
you've gotta think that there's no way in hell the Devils bring back Kovy after what he did to them. That's like constantly getting back together with an ex gf who always cheated on you
- orangekrush2010


Didn't they get draft pick compensation for Kovy leaving?

If he goes back to the Devils, they should have to forfeit picks.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
I also have three job offers, for which I need the help of you wise folks in reaching my decision.

I have offers from a pretzel stand, a churro stand, and a hot dog stand. I'm leaning churro stand -- it just seems like an exotic opportunity, a chance to see the world that the others don't provide.....but I just don't know....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
Didn't they get draft pick compensation for Kovy leaving?

If he goes back to the Devils, they should have to forfeit picks.

- johndewar

i thought they had to forfeit picks for signing him
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
I also have three job offers, for which I need the help of you wise folks in reaching my decision.

I have offers from a pretzel stand, a churro stand, and a hot dog stand. I'm leaning churro stand -- it just seems like an exotic opportunity, a chance to see the world that the others don't provide.....but I just don't know....

- Mononoke

how good are you at yelling "CHuRRRRRRRRO"?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
i thought they had to forfeit picks for signing him
- 2Real


maybe they canceled out
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
I also have three job offers, for which I need the help of you wise folks in reaching my decision.

I have offers from a pretzel stand, a churro stand, and a hot dog stand. I'm leaning churro stand -- it just seems like an exotic opportunity, a chance to see the world that the others don't provide.....but I just don't know....

- Mononoke


the real answer is:

D. The Banana Stand
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
I would most like to work with the Ice Girls. But a good number of them are pretty busted in the face. I matched with one of them on tinder, a 19 year old who goes to Drexel, and she told me MDZ constantly hits her up. Playa playa
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
the real answer is:

D. The Banana Stand

- funmaster18


It is currently destroyed
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
I would most like to work with the Ice Girls. But a good number of them are pretty busted in the face. I matched with one of them on tinder, a 19 year old who goes to Drexel, and she told me MDZ constantly hits her up. Playa playa
- orangekrush2010




That is the least surprising thing I've read on the internet today.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
It is currently destroyed
- Mononoke


rebuild it. again. there is always money in the banana stand
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
the real answer is:

D. The Banana Stand

- funmaster18


orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 2:21 PM ET


That is the least surprising thing I've read on the internet today.

- johndewar


Hahaha yeah that was my reaction when she told me that
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
I would most like to work with the Ice Girls. But a good number of them are pretty busted in the face. I matched with one of them on tinder, a 19 year old who goes to Drexel, and she told me MDZ constantly hits her up. Playa playa
- orangekrush2010


Rumor has it, since she doesn't give in to his advances, that's the real reason for his wrist injury. E5.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
rebuild it. again. there is always money in the banana stand
- funmaster18


The Banana Shack has better benefits

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:24 PM ET
Rumor has it, since she doesn't give in to his advances, that's the real reason for his wrist injury. E5.
- hockeylover

oh snap.gif
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
Rumor has it, since she doesn't give in to his advances, that's the real reason for his wrist injury. E5.
- hockeylover


Did it get stuck in Lisa Anne's vajay again???
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
So you don't come on here for 5 years and now two days back your asking people on a Flyers thread about finance companies and life decisions.

You may want to rethink your return here and how it may impact your life.

- mayorofangrytown

I'm still waiting to hear where the best egg roll place is.

I think orange Krush is going to be disappointed
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
i thought they had to forfeit picks for signing him
- 2Real


The devils were to forfeit $3 mill, a 3rd and a 1st. After Kovalchuk went to the KHL they got some of the money back and never had to forfeit the 1st round pick.

Kovalchuk did the Devils a huge favor by leaving.

1. The Devils had Kovalchuk for the most productive (early years) of the contract.
2. Kovalchuk's contract was somewhat backloaded so the Devils paid Kovalchuk the cheaper years of his contract. The year he bailed his contract was slated to go from 6 mill/yr to 11 mill/yr.
3. Rumors were that the Devils couldn't afford to pay him the 11 mill as they were swimming in debt at the time. They might still be.
4. Kovalchuk's retiriing was a lot more palatable than a buyout would've been during any part of his 15 year contract both in terms of money and cap recapture.

http://www.thehockeynews....ent-for-all-involved.html

If you look at the way Kovy's contract was structured and Lou electing not to pay the 1st round pick until the year Kovy left, either Lou knew all along what was going to happen or Lou won the lottery.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 2:43 PM ET
If Kovalchuk signed here, he'd just be scratched for Manning. It's really not worth it imo.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 2:44 PM ET
The devils were to forfeit $3 mill, a 3rd and a 1st. After Kovalchuk went to the KHL they got some of the money back and never had to forfeit the 1st round pick.

Kovalchuk did the Devils a huge favor by leaving.

1. The Devils had Kovalchuk for the most productive (early years) of the contract.
2. Kovalchuk's contract was somewhat backloaded so the Devils paid Kovalchuk the cheaper years of his contract. The year he bailed his contract was slated to go from 6 mill/yr to 11 mill/yr.
3. Rumors were that the Devils couldn't afford to pay him the 11 mill as they were swimming in debt at the time. They might still be.
4. Kovalchuk's retiriing was a lot more palatable than a buyout would've been during any part of his 15 year contract both in terms of money and cap recapture.

http://www.thehockeynews....ent-for-all-involved.html

If you look at the way Kovy's contract was structured and Lou electing not to pay the 1st round pick until the year Kovy left, either Lou knew all along what was going to happen or Lou won the lottery.

- Flyers_01


This was a clear case of cap circumvention allowed by the league. They made up some penalties which were much easier for the Devils to handle.

The LA Mike Richards fiasco was another one. Utter BS how Lombardi made out there.

I would even say Chicago pulled one off last season keeping Kane on IR which gave them the space to sign Vermette and win another Cup. Season ends Kane comes back for the playoffs when there is no salary cap concerns and Vermettehelps them win a Cup. Not saying Kane wasn't recovering from surgery, but the timing of his return allowed them to bring on Vermette.
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