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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
This was a clear case of cap circumvention allowed by the league. They made up some penalties which were much easier for the Devils to handle.

The LA Mike Richards fiasco was another one. Utter BS how Lombardi made out there.

I would even say Chicago pulled one off last season keeping Kane on IR which gave them the space to sign Vermette and win another Cup. Season ends Kane comes back for the playoffs when there is no salary cap concerns and Vermettehelps them win a Cup. Not saying Kane wasn't recovering from surgery, but the timing of his return allowed them to bring on Vermette.

- Marc D


Cap to me is too high as is. When you have quite a few teams with an "internal" number that they stick to.

If the point of the cap was for true financial parity, it should be lowered.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
Rumor has it, since she doesn't give in to his advances, that's the real reason for his wrist injury. E5.
- hockeylover



If I was a 20 something NHL player making million I would hit on all good looking girls too. I would have no shame.

Because once I am out of the league, if I am not a star, who's going to remember me anyways

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
I'm still waiting to hear where the best egg roll place is.

I think orange Krush is going to be disappointed

- Marc D

I was only offered options for the worse eggrolls
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
This was a clear case of cap circumvention allowed by the league. They made up some penalties which were much easier for the Devils to handle.

The LA Mike Richards fiasco was another one. Utter BS how Lombardi made out there.

I would even say Chicago pulled one off last season keeping Kane on IR which gave them the space to sign Vermette and win another Cup. Season ends Kane comes back for the playoffs when there is no salary cap concerns and Vermettehelps them win a Cup. Not saying Kane wasn't recovering from surgery, but the timing of his return allowed them to bring on Vermette.

- Marc D


Flyers were allowed to trade a retired player so I can't really complain about all of the circumvention. Having a hard cap with a few loopholes is so much better than the NBA method of taxing and mid level exceptions and the other complicated poop.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
Brodin, Parise and Zucker all out for Wild
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:52 PM ET
So you don't come on here for 5 years and now two days back your asking people on a Flyers thread about finance companies and life decisions.

You may want to rethink your return here and how it may impact your life.

- mayorofangrytown


Hell I wouldn't ask these clowns for advice on pretty much anything.

Well cept maybe for advice on knowing who is truly elite, they seem to be up on that one.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 24 @ 2:53 PM ET

Hell I wouldn't ask these clowns for advice on pretty much anything.

Well cept maybe for advice on knowing who is truly elite, they seem to be up on that one.

- BiggE


Top ten elite clowns:
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:54 PM ET

- Scoob


he'd be perfect on the Flyers
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
I also have three job offers, for which I need the help of you wise folks in reaching my decision.

I have offers from a pretzel stand, a churro stand, and a hot dog stand. I'm leaning churro stand -- it just seems like an exotic opportunity, a chance to see the world that the others don't provide.....but I just don't know....

- Mononoke

I'd choose either pretzel or hot dogs. Churro is just a fad and besides, the other 2 would allow you to branch out into the lucrative field of mustard distribution
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
Brodin, Parise and Zucker all out for Wild
- PhillySportsGuy


if you read between the lines, obviously it means:

Giroux for Brodin, Parise and Zucker
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 24 @ 2:56 PM ET

Hell I wouldn't ask these clowns for advice on pretty much anything.

Well cept maybe for advice on knowing who is truly elite, they seem to be up on that one.

- BiggE



Ask for advice here? Absolutely! Follow advice given here? Probably not. Do the opposite of advice given here? Quite possibly.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
I would most like to work with the Ice Girls. But a good number of them are pretty busted in the face. I matched with one of them on tinder, a 19 year old who goes to Drexel, and she told me MDZ constantly hits her up. Playa playa
- orangekrush2010


Old friend of mine used to fool with MDZ when he played for Rangers. He asked her to come to Europe during lockout
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:57 PM ET
Brodin, Parise and Zucker all out for Wild
- PhillySportsGuy

Great, now we're doomed.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
Top ten elite clowns:
- Mononoke

Ugh, clowns give me the creeps.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
Flyers were allowed to trade a retired player so I can't really complain about all of the circumvention. Having a hard cap with a few loopholes is so much better than the NBA method of taxing and mid level exceptions and the other complicated poop.
- PhillySportsGuy


That was more the NHL's fault for basically hiring him for a position in NHL while still technically a "player"
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 3:01 PM ET
Flyers were allowed to trade a retired player so I can't really complain about all of the circumvention. Having a hard cap with a few loopholes is so much better than the NBA method of taxing and mid level exceptions and the other complicated poop.
- PhillySportsGuy

The whole idea of having to keep players on your salary cap who will obviously never play again is wrong and needs to be fixed. They should be paid what they are owed but the machinations teams have to go through where the salary is counted against the cap until the season starts and then they are put in LTIR is crazy.

The Pronger situation and others like Horton and Marc Savard to me are ridiculous beyond belief.

I don't follow how the nba works and can't comment.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
Great, now we're doomed.
- BiggE


Probably but it also depends on how many guys suiting up for the Wild who will be looking for their first NHL goal
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 3:06 PM ET
The whole idea of having to keep players on your salary cap who will obviously never play again is wrong and needs to be fixed. They should be paid what they are owed but the machinations teams have to go through where the salary is counted against the cap until the season starts and then they are put in LTIR is crazy.

The Pronger situation and others like Horton and Marc Savard to me are ridiculous beyond belief.

I don't follow how the nba works and can't comment.

- Marc D


I think at the very least the league could apply a specific cap hit in the event that a team has a player that will never play again. So then they aren't completely off the hook, but it's greatly reduced. they could even make it a % of whatever the existing cap hit is.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 3:07 PM ET
Ugh, clowns give me the creeps.
- BiggE

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 3:07 PM ET
I missed last night's game
What were the Flyers power play units?

I think they need Medvedev for that 2PP group, they are not very skilled with the puck without him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 3:08 PM ET

- Scoob


Born
Flyer
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 24 @ 3:08 PM ET
I missed last night's game
What were the Flyers power play units?

I think they need Medvedev for that 2PP group, they are not very skilled with the puck without him.

- Marc D


PP1: Ghost, Schenn, Couturier, Jake, Simmonds
PP2: some bumholes

EDIT: I really don't remember who was all out there for PP2
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
The whole idea of having to keep players on your salary cap who will obviously never play again is wrong and needs to be fixed. They should be paid what they are owed but the machinations teams have to go through where the salary is counted against the cap until the season starts and then they are put in LTIR is crazy.

The Pronger situation and others like Horton and Marc Savard to me are ridiculous beyond belief.

I don't follow how the nba works and can't comment.

- Marc D



There should be a way that if the player is hurt in season that independent doctors can deem a player unable to continue his career. The teams should be able to work out some injury settlement and then move on.

That way the LTIR mockery can end with players everyone knows can't return. But the player would have to retire then. That way it's not like he is hurt and then tries to come back later.

Smarter people could figure out a way
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
I think at the very least the league could apply a specific cap hit in the event that a team has a player that will never play again. So then they aren't completely off the hook, but it's greatly reduced. they could even make it a % of whatever the existing cap hit is.
- funmaster18

If a guy is truly injured and cannot play why count them at all on the cap?

I guess the concern is faking injury in guys that aren't good anymore but there should be ways to prevent that. Get several independent medical evaluations or something similar.
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