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xcheckmajor
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 06.28.2013

Feb 25 @ 3:57 PM ET
I have serious doubts about this. I'm envisioning Holik 2.0
- mdw7413


Bobby Holik was a big 2 way player that thrived on a team that lacked offensive weapons. He was a checking forward not even in the same league as E Staal in terms of offensive skill.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 25 @ 3:58 PM ET
We could have both sure, but Eric Staal will infuriate us.
- tomburton99

I mean I'd love to trade for someone like Patrick Kane or Evengi Malkin who's in their prime and guaranteed to succeed but thats just not really realistic
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 25 @ 3:59 PM ET
I mean I'd love to trade for someone like Patrick Kane or Evengi Malkin who's in their prime and guaranteed to succeed but thats just not really realistic
- rangerdanger94


if Eric Staal was actually having a good year the price would be through the roof
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:01 PM ET
if Eric Staal was actually having a good year the price would be through the roof
- jimbro83


That is the part that always bugs me with these things -- like you said, Staal is only even arguably acquirable for a reasonable price because he is having a crap year. If he was having an Eric Staal year from five years ago, you wouldn't have the guns to acquire him. The Rangers only get him if the price isn't insane, and as a roll of the dice that they can squeeze something out of him for the next three months.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
That is the part that always bugs me with these things -- like you said, Staal is only even arguably acquirable for a reasonable price because he is having a crap year. If he was having an Eric Staal year from give years ago, you wouldn't have the guns to acquire him. The Rangers only get him if the price isn't insane, and as a roll of the dice that they can squeeze something out of him for the next three months.
- Pete V


we want to trade a 3rd round pick for a guy who has 30 goals and 30 assists

ain't happenin'
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:03 PM ET
That is the part that always bugs me with these things -- like you said, Staal is only even arguably acquirable for a reasonable price because he is having a crap year. If he was having an Eric Staal year from five years ago, you wouldn't have the guns to acquire him. The Rangers only get him if the price isn't insane, and as a roll of the dice that they can squeeze something out of him for the next three months.
- Pete V

Yea people are afraid of trading for potential and want to wait until a player realizes it...but if a player realizes his potential why would the team he plays for trade him?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
not if he comes here with his own batch of yellow sticks
- jimbro83

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yea people are afraid of trading for potential and want to wait until a player realizes it...but if a player realizes his potential why would the team he plays for trade him?
- rangerdanger94


Slats shook hands on a deal to acquire Steven Stamkos because Stamkos wasn't playing well early in his career. A year later, that type of deal wasn't even being discussed.

Of course, there is risk with these type deals. Sometimes they work out for the acquiring club, like Seguin in Dallas. And sometimes they don't.

Drouin is the next up. We will see how that one turns out.

Edit: Staal is a different type of deal. It's a deal for an older rental that could be had a better price, because he's having a crap year. Maybe he turns it around. It's a roll of the dice.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
Bobby Holik was a big 2 way player that thrived on a team that lacked offensive weapons. He was a checking forward not even in the same league as E Staal in terms of offensive skill.
- xcheckmajor



Staal this year is less of an offensive weapon then a retired Holik
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
we want to trade a 3rd round pick for a guy who has 30 goals and 30 assists

ain't happenin'

- jimbro83

Yeah, that's never happening.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 4:07 PM ET
Yea people are afraid of trading for potential and want to wait until a player realizes it...but if a player realizes his potential why would the team he plays for trade him?
- rangerdanger94



Nichushkin
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
Bobby Holik was a big 2 way player that thrived on a team that lacked offensive weapons. He was a checking forward not even in the same league as E Staal in terms of offensive skill.
- xcheckmajor

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:09 PM ET
Nichushkin
- mdw7413


You want to get real crazy? Yandle to Dallas for Nichuskin. Kreider and McIlrath to Tampa for Drouin.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
You want to get real crazy? Yandle to Dallas for Nichuskin. Kreider and McIlrath to Tampa for Drouin.

- Pete V



I'm all for that one. Now thats a (frank)ing trade Pete.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
Waived Paille to make sure Staal's #12 is available. It's gonna happen now
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
Waived Paille to make sure Staal's #12 is available. It's gonna happen now
- dashripdot

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
Yeah, that's never happening.
- tomburton99

Staal does have a NTC, so if he handcuffs his GM into negotiating with just 2 or 3 teams, 1 of which is the Rangers, he could be had at a discount.

3rd rounder? Probably not. But a 2nd a mid prospect like what Vanek brought back the Isles after they lost all their leverage? That type of package could probably get it done if Carolina believes Staal will walk as a free agent.
nyrsucks
Florida Panthers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Feb 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
You want to get real crazy? Yandle to Dallas for Nichuskin. Kreider and McIlrath to Tampa for Drouin.

- Pete V

Other teams would have to be brain dead to do these deals.. More likely happening is to grossly overpay E. Staal to graze and retire here...
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
Other teams would have to be brain dead to do these deals.. More likely happening is to grossly overpay E. Staal to graze and retire here...
- nyrsucks


mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
Other teams would have to be brain dead to do these deals.. More likely happening is to grossly overpay E. Staal to graze and retire here...
- nyrsucks



tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
Other teams would have to be brain dead to do these deals.. More likely happening is to grossly overpay E. Staal to graze and retire here...
- nyrsucks

HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Feb 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
I might. Honestly. Because he's done. Like Dan Boyle. Eric Staal is totally spent. He's on the wing to help get back into a scoring role and that can't even help him. His brother being bought by the Canes etc. Eric Staal is finished.
- tomburton99

But he still has his name and that's NY Rangers hockey
nyrsucks
Florida Panthers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Feb 25 @ 4:24 PM ET

- jimbro83

Hmm, not really related to our beloved blueshirts, but ok.... the one on the left is sort of nice...
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Feb 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
Other teams would have to be brain dead to do these deals.. More likely happening is to grossly overpay E. Staal to graze and retire here...
- nyrsucks

How's Ryan Clowe?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
Hmm, not really related to our beloved blueshirts, but ok.... the one on the left is sort of nice...
- nyrsucks


do you belong to the physics club?
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