Better idea

Trade him to Montreal for McCarron
- shvingter88

Best idea, put Gelinas on waivers when Kovy comes back.

Just listened to a thing of bob on tsnradio and he says half the league is interested in Drouin Price is steep though apparently a roster player that can help them push for the play offs, a top prospect and perhaps a pick of some sort on top of that lol He finally mentioned us though with the teams who have been interested at some point in the season and may be circling back again.

Just listened to a thing of bob on tsnradio and he says half the league is interested in Drouin Price is steep though apparently a roster player that can help them push for the play offs, a top prospect and perhaps a pick of some sort on top of that lol He finally mentioned us though with the teams who have been interested at some point in the season and may be circling back again.
- blizzzard

they can have kovalchuk heh

they can have kovalchuk heh
- Pomegrant

Just listened to a thing of bob on tsnradio and he says half the league is interested in Drouin Price is steep though apparently a roster player that can help them push for the play offs, a top prospect and perhaps a pick of some sort on top of that lol He finally mentioned us though with the teams who have been interested at some point in the season and may be circling back again.
- blizzzard

That is very steep, I hope we don't trade for him.

Just listened to a thing of bob on tsnradio and he says half the league is interested in Drouin Price is steep though apparently a roster player that can help them push for the play offs, a top prospect and perhaps a pick of some sort on top of that lol He finally mentioned us though with the teams who have been interested at some point in the season and may be circling back again.
- blizzzard

So they would probably want Stempniak, Santini and a 2nd. (frank) that we got Kovy coming back anyway.

So they would probably want Stempniak, Santini and a 2nd. (frank) that we got Kovy coming back anyway.
- smellmyfinger

you wouldn't do that trade? I'd take that in a second

you wouldn't do that trade? I'd take that in a second
- Senor_Elias

That 2nd would probably be a first. Drouin's value is based solely on his potential, I'm not sure I would trade a 1st and Santini, which would be the more important parts of that deal. Our defense isn't exactly staked with talent from a few years ago.

you wouldn't do that trade? I'd take that in a second
- Senor_Elias

I'm not sure I would. Stempniak could net us a 2nd. So you're talking two seconds and a very promising D prospect for a potential problem? I like Drouins upside, but he could also bust easily at this point.

I'm not sure I would. Stempniak could net us a 2nd. So you're talking two seconds and a very promising D prospect for a potential problem? I like Drouins upside, but he could also bust easily at this point.
- smellmyfinger

that's the whole thing with 'prospects'. that's why people also overstate the value of draft picks because they are also unknown quantities. Drouin is seen as having huge potential but you shouldn't confuse potential with ability or quality. He still needs to be developed.

I like Santini but our forward prospects are so bad that I'd pull the trigger

I like Santini but our forward prospects are so bad that I'd pull the trigger
- Senor_Elias

Haven't you heard of a little known forward prospect Ek says we are going to sign named Kovy?

Haven't you heard of a little known forward prospect Ek says we are going to sign named Kovy?
- smellmyfinger

was projected to go early in the first round but just didn't pan out, you know?

I'm not sure I would. Stempniak could net us a 2nd. So you're talking two seconds and a very promising D prospect for a potential problem? I like Drouins upside, but he could also bust easily at this point.
- smellmyfinger

But what are we giving up in that offer that also couldn't bust? Santini's also had injury problems so its not like there isn't a risk with him.

Santini still isn't signed to ELC and can bolt to free agency since it's been three years and he's going to be fresh out of college. The kid grew up a rags fan too. Anyways, I'm pretty optimistic he won't do that. Merril and Gelly would be the ideal ones to dump on tampa bay but their value is at an all time low. Overall though, I'd say our chances are very slim on landing drouin.

Santini still isn't signed to ELC and can bolt to free agency since it's been three years and he's going to be fresh out of college. The kid grew up a rags fan too. Anyways, I'm pretty optimistic he won't do that. Merril and Gelly would be the ideal ones to dump on tampa bay but their value is at an all time low. Overall though, I'd say our chances are very slim on landing drouin.
- rawwdogg88

If I knew a different team would sign me, I wouldn't sign with the rangers if I had been drafted by them (loving the me being drafted part in this scenario ) I wonder if those types of thoughts creep into players heads knowing they'll be signed by somebody else if they bail.

Santini still isn't signed to ELC and can bolt to free agency since it's been three years and he's going to be fresh out of college. The kid grew up a rags fan too. Anyways, I'm pretty optimistic he won't do that. Merril and Gelly would be the ideal ones to dump on tampa bay but their value is at an all time low. Overall though, I'd say our chances are very slim on landing drouin.
- rawwdogg88

It's four years that he becomes a UFA. Also, if we are so concerned at that why not trade Wood right now too, why not just not draft anyone from the NCAA anymore. And there's been no word about him not signing with us, in fact the only player I've even heard not signing with their drafted team from college is Vesey.

Gaudreau could of easily asked for a trade out of Calgary or not sign with Calgary. I wouldn't be in a rush to trade Santini just because of this loophole. And Drouin would be a terrible pickup for what he does or has done compared to what we would have to give up.

Also, any player that is drafted can refuse to sign with that team.

But what are we giving up in that offer that also couldn't bust? Santini's also had injury problems so its not like there isn't a risk with him.
- rmdevil313

True, but our forward group on the team and prospects wise is not terrible like someone else said. Blandisi, Henrique, Palmeiri are young. Throw in Q, Zacha, and Wood and that's a pretty good top six if they pan out. Drouin is the not solution to this team.

Also, what other defenseman will fit in our top 4 or has the potential to? Santini and Jacobs, we are not deep in defense anymore to give up a guy that could replace Greene someday.

True, but our forward group on the team and prospects wise is not terrible like someone else said. Blandisi, Henrique, Palmeiri are young. Throw in Q, Zacha, and Wood and that's a pretty good top six if they pan out. Drouin is the not solution to this team.

Also, what other defenseman will fit in our top 4 or has the potential to? Santini and Jacobs, we are not deep in defense anymore to give up a guy that could replace Greene someday.
- Devils9503

Our D is also currently young and we don't need to worry about replacing greene for another 5 years. As of right now we need high end forward talent more than we need high end defensive talent. We have a top defensive pairing locked up for the next 5 seasons with another top notch young dman. We currently have 1 aging, injury prone top line player and one prospect (Zacha) with top line potential and he still has a lot to prove.

I don't see that Yzerman would move Drouin by Monday simply because he's going to get better (in the long run) deals at the draft. I'm pretty sure he'll end up moving Drouin for a top ten pick. (from around 4-9)... team that gets him gets a guy that's NHL ready but a wildcard... team that gives him away actually gets value from him.

I just don't see other teams ponying up much for Drouin in the thick of a playoff race when they're not even sure he's NHL ready. Plus, Yzerman's not going to trade him for a first round this year if he's just going to raise their stock and Yzerman's 4-9 pick is going to turn into a 10-14 pick instead...

The price for Drouin that's reported in the media is the same price as everyone puts out for a former top 10 pick... guys like Kyle Turris "Oh, a roster player, blue chipper, and a 2nd/seasoned prospect"... this is what Phoenix got for him: Rundblad (a 7.5ish D prospect per hockeysfuture rankings) and a second. I doubt Drouin gets Tampa even that at this point... AND this was during the offseason. Technically, all NJ should be offering is Santini and a 2nd... and why would NJ want a player who's just going to give them contract problems in 3 years?

Additionally, there's a power struggle here, and Walsh challenged Yzerman... the GM is not going to let player agents tell them what to do with their players.

Haven't you heard of a little known forward prospect Ek says we are going to sign named Kovy?
- smellmyfinger