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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 10:52 PM ET
That's what I am complaining about. They say one thing and do another. Benning loves picks but ships them off. They swear on draft and develop but we are shipping picks. I will continue to trust the brain trust it's just confusing
- Codes1087


Late pics usually... and for the 2nd rounders mostly for young players that show upside... think for a minute what you want out of the draft,,, young players with potential.

People still say we had no 2nd last year. I say we got Beartchi out of the 2nd... and most GM's wouldnt be disappointed when looking at his improvements and impact late this season.

The contradiction people are seeing is nowhere near what they claim. JB is doing what he always said he wants to do... fill in the generation gap. What good is a team full of 19 and 20 year olds and a bunch of over 30 year olds and nothing in between....

If JB isnt shopping for picks... it's for young players with upside... he has said that numerous times. He's done that numerous times. Whats to be confused about?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:53 PM ET
So hammer said he hasnt been asked.... and the list of available doesnt include him. Both in line.

So why does he need to talk to his wife about options then? Not consistent.

Unless its in case there is a last day decision Im guessing

- SMBDragon


Just because he hasn't been asked doesn't mean he hasn't been asked if he'd waive if a deal happened.
Eg; dan, will you wave to go to team x?
That is asking to waive.
Eg2; dan, we're gonna shop you and ask you to waive ok?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 10:55 PM ET
it was a fifth, for a guy with some upside and NHL XP. Seems like a good move to me. I don't buy that he wont be trading for picks, not very consistent with wanting to draft and develop guys.
- neem55


Come on... we have our own picks. Just because we may not trade our bait for picks doesnt mean we wont make our own picks and develop them...sigh...
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:55 PM ET
its a 5th rounder cool your guns people. Maybe change your underpants.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 24 @ 11:00 PM ET
Come on... we have our own picks. Just because we may not trade our bait for picks doesnt mean we wont make our own picks and develop them...sigh...
- boonerbuck


Sure. It just also means that more picks are better, since the odds of more guys making it out of the draft into the lineup the are increased by more picks. I'm fine with the trades he has done, just hope he is able to get some picks too.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:03 PM ET
its a 5th rounder cool your guns people. Maybe change your underpants.
- Crazybagoham


Thanks for the input, much appreciated
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
Sure. It just also means that more picks are better, since the odds of more guys making it out of the draft into the lineup the are increased by more picks. I'm fine with the trades he has done, just hope he is able to get some picks too.
- neem55

Canucks ahead of Shink . Danny Sven UFA LUcic Etem Gaunce Rodin.


We picked up a RHD , something we seriously need, we need a PMD point producing. Ouch we gave up a fifth.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:06 PM ET
Preaching drafting and developing and then trading prospects and picks goes against what they are telling people Is all. I trust benning and staff know more than myself and the people on these boards so I will continue to trust him it's just hard to buy into the direction they promise people when it seems to change all the time
- Codes1087


Are we not developing the young players that have come back in many of these trades? Are we not going to be at the next draft making selections?

I think much of your confusion comes from not being able to accept that these statements do not mean that they will never trade picks and or young players.... he's not doing the Gillis and trading picks for guys who retire the following season is he? Sutter was the exception... and he is in his mid 20's and still has room to improve... and brings the ability to teach and mentor the younguns once we lose the Sedins.

I would love o see this contract that Benning must of signed with the fans promising he'd never do any of these things. He says he wants to do this and that but sometimes there are going to latteral moves and moves trying to jump forward that dont work out. Please accept that we are not going down the same road that Toronto and Calgary did by trading the future to stay competitive and thus being stuck in no mans land for a decade. This team has said it wont do that and none of he moves reflect that....
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:06 PM ET
its a 5th rounder cool your guns people. Maybe change your underpants.
- Crazybagoham


What, you crazy! A 5th rounder is just 4 rounds from being a 1st
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:10 PM ET
Are we not developing the young players that have come back in many of these trades? Are we not going to be at the next draft making selections?

I think much of your confusion comes from not being able to accept that these statements do not mean that they will never trade picks and or young players.... he's not doing the Gillis and trading picks for guys who retire the following season is he? Sutter was the exception... and he is in his mid 20's and still has room to improve... and brings the ability to teach and mentor the younguns once we lose the Sedins.

I would love o see this contract that Benning must of signed with the fans promising he'd never do any of these things. He says he wants to do this and that but sometimes there are going to latteral moves and moves trying to jump forward that dont work out. Please accept that we are not going down the same road that Toronto and Calgary did by trading the future to stay competitive and thus being stuck in no mans land for a decade. This team has said it wont do that and none of he moves reflect that....

- boonerbuck


Nope, the sky I'd falling. Benning is just the worst. Any other gm would have one the cup by now. Trevor is the worst Vantel would have one the cup by now.
Cue MJ freak out
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 24 @ 11:10 PM ET
Leafs trade HNIC Saturday 4pm slot for a 2016 2nd 2017 4th

Leafs drop ticket prices for Marlie games

Marlies up ticket prices 10%
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:12 PM ET
Nope, the sky I'd falling. Benning is just the worst. Any other gm would have one the cup by now. Trevor is the worst Vantel would have one the cup by now.
Cue MJ freak out

- Pres.cup

WTF did I do?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:13 PM ET
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 24 @ 11:14 PM ET
Canucks ahead of Shink . Danny Sven UFA LUcic Etem Gaunce Rodin.


We picked up a RHD , something we seriously need, we need a PMD point producing. Ouch we gave up a fifth.

- VANTEL


Ya I like the moves, as I said. I still hope for more picks come draft, this is all I've said really.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:16 PM ET
Preaching drafting and developing and then trading prospects and picks goes against what they are telling people Is all. I trust benning and staff know more than myself and the people on these boards so I will continue to trust him it's just hard to buy into the direction they promise people when it seems to change all the time
- Codes1087


It's not really that confusing and the message has been consistent in my opinion. They want to get younger and faster. They want to make hockey trades. Since they took over they have constantly been trading for and targeting players in the age range 21-25. At the same time they have been keeping "most" of their picks and loading up on solid prospects. The idea is when the Biesers and Virtanenes are 22-23 (and still cheap) there will be a new core of veterans (not old like the current core) to hopefully challenge for a cup. The plan makes perfect sense and they have preached the same thing 100's of times.

They do want to accumulate picks but if they can acquire a young undervalued stud then the rebuild is expedited.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:17 PM ET
Sure. It just also means that more picks are better, since the odds of more guys making it out of the draft into the lineup the are increased by more picks. I'm fine with the trades he has done, just hope he is able to get some picks too.
- neem55


No one can say picks you havent made yet have a better chance at making the NHL than the players traded for that are near NHL ready or in the NHL now. So many of these traded pics are not actually a void and still serve the direction JB says he's going.

We are getting younger... just because we take a player that is 1 year older than the guy he was traded for or 20 over 18 years old doesnt mean contradiction. We can get younger without turning this team into a bunch of infants.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:17 PM ET
Ya I like the moves, as I said. I still hope for more picks come draft, this is all I've said really.
- neem55

We have strong prospects at least 10. Our NHL club needs more work than our farm team, I think trade for Canuck players not picks.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:19 PM ET
Late pics usually... and for the 2nd rounders mostly for young players that show upside... think for a minute what you want out of the draft,,, young players with potential.

People still say we had no 2nd last year. I say we got Beartchi out of the 2nd... and most GM's wouldnt be disappointed when looking at his improvements and impact late this season.

The contradiction people are seeing is nowhere near what they claim. JB is doing what he always said he wants to do... fill in the generation gap. What good is a team full of 19 and 20 year olds and a bunch of over 30 year olds and nothing in between....

If JB isnt shopping for picks... it's for young players with upside... he has said that numerous times. He's done that numerous times. Whats to be confused about?

- boonerbuck


I just posted the same thing a bit too late. You sure are smart
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:20 PM ET
I wonder if Hansen has talked to Larsen yet.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:21 PM ET
Draft picks are nice, especially high ones.

Lottery tickets are also nice.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:23 PM ET
I just posted the same thing a bit too late. You sure are a smart ass
- CanuckDon


Don't pick on Booner
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:24 PM ET
I wonder if Hansen has talked to Larsen yet.
- A_SteamingLombardi


To be a fly on the wall. It probably sounded like Mickey talking to Minnie
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:24 PM ET
I wonder if Hansen has talked to Larsen yet.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Hansen is on his way to the airport and doesn't have time
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:24 PM ET
Don't pick on Booner
- VANTEL

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
I wonder if Hansen has talked to Larsen yet.
- A_SteamingLombardi

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